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smartrader
    15-Aug-2009 10:32  
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huat ah...food for thoughts.. besides learning about smart trading techniques , in today's context, is there any room for investing in stock like you own a piece of the business since we are called shareholders ?
 
 
ganclmm
    15-Aug-2009 09:36  
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Nice post, I give you another good rate posting :)

 

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risktaker      ( Date: 15-Aug-2009 06:11) Posted:



Also if you analyse the closing of DJ - Last hour volume is incredible Huge buy in. 

 

Why it shouldnt drop so much.
1) Many major economy is out of recession. Germany, France. US expected 3rd quarter.
2) DJ will carry on its resilence on bad news until Q3 results proven that US economy is on the wrong track.
3) HK is out of recession, Singapore is out of recession and I believed we are seeing growth in Q3 too. for full year 2009 we might growth instead of contraction. As those guys working on the figures, they cant really analyse properly and over estimate the pull back. Its like its better to report badly now than to have a positive outlook and  when results out it failed. So figures from SG government is always prepared for the worst. But really the worst is over. We will see growth in Q3.


There are a lot of people on the side lines that are hoping for a major pull back or a major market correction. These investors/funds manager will start speculations about stocks rally that wont hold the ground. As they keep saying about the fundementals is weak or bad. So that those people who exited the market earlier or never enter the market can buy in at a cheaper price. This quarter you will see Obama stimulus effect kick in. So US Q3 should have less than 0.3 contraction or 0.2 percent growth.


The situation is different from march and august. The fundementals isnt that bad anymore. Dark Clouds that cast a shadow over the economy has almost disappeared we are able to confirm this in Q3. Q3 is an important quarter for US should it contract over 1% the stimulus is not working as expect the stock market will crashed again. However it is very unlikely that we will see contraction over 1%, most company so far has risen their outlook to more positively. Industrial production has growth for the first time in 9 months, stimulus effect is kicking in.


True that the US unemployment rate will increase but its the fact of life about economy, it will always lack behind the real economy. You cant expect when you plant a durain tree and the next day it will bear fruits. So it will take a while for the stimulus to passing through the economy chain.

DJ will test 9600 region and 10000 mark on Q4. Do not listen to speculation they want you to sell and enter the market. Its the fact of life.

  Friday Effect + 2 days of bad news. DJ drop only 76.79 ..... Monday DJ will rise high with the massive buy in before closing.


 



 
 
risktaker
    15-Aug-2009 09:18  
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I spend 4-5 hours each day doing FA T.T

smartrader      ( Date: 15-Aug-2009 09:09) Posted:

I just bought a Weekend Business Times at breakfast. Your summary is better.

There is a good article under Wealth Investing - Play Your Cards Right ..can read it for free online after 6pm.

Cheers !!!



risktaker      ( Date: 15-Aug-2009 08:04) Posted:

ohh i didnt read BT :)


 

 
smartrader
    15-Aug-2009 09:09  
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I just bought a Weekend Business Times at breakfast. Your summary is better.

There is a good article under Wealth Investing - Play Your Cards Right ..can read it for free online after 6pm.

Cheers !!!



risktaker      ( Date: 15-Aug-2009 08:04) Posted:

ohh i didnt read BT :)

smartrader      ( Date: 15-Aug-2009 07:39) Posted:

Give you a good post rating for the efforts in consolidating the Business Times Weekend Summary...heh


 
 
risktaker
    15-Aug-2009 08:04  
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ohh i didnt read BT :)

smartrader      ( Date: 15-Aug-2009 07:39) Posted:

Give you a good post rating for the efforts in consolidating the Business Times Weekend Summary...hehe

risktaker      ( Date: 15-Aug-2009 06:11) Posted:



Also if you analyse the closing of DJ - Last hour volume is incredible Huge buy in. 

 

Why it shouldnt drop so much.
1) Many major economy is out of recession. Germany, France. US expected 3rd quarter.
2) DJ will carry on its resilence on bad news until Q3 results proven that US economy is on the wrong track.
3) HK is out of recession, Singapore is out of recession and I believed we are seeing growth in Q3 too. for full year 2009 we might growth instead of contraction. As those guys working on the figures, they cant really analyse properly and over estimate the pull back. Its like its better to report badly now than to have a positive outlook and  when results out it failed. So figures from SG government is always prepared for the worst. But really the worst is over. We will see growth in Q3.


There are a lot of people on the side lines that are hoping for a major pull back or a major market correction. These investors/funds manager will start speculations about stocks rally that wont hold the ground. As they keep saying about the fundementals is weak or bad. So that those people who exited the market earlier or never enter the market can buy in at a cheaper price. This quarter you will see Obama stimulus effect kick in. So US Q3 should have less than 0.3 contraction or 0.2 percent growth.


The situation is different from march and august. The fundementals isnt that bad anymore. Dark Clouds that cast a shadow over the economy has almost disappeared we are able to confirm this in Q3. Q3 is an important quarter for US should it contract over 1% the stimulus is not working as expect the stock market will crashed again. However it is very unlikely that we will see contraction over 1%, most company so far has risen their outlook to more positively. Industrial production has growth for the first time in 9 months, stimulus effect is kicking in.


True that the US unemployment rate will increase but its the fact of life about economy, it will always lack behind the real economy. You cant expect when you plant a durain tree and the next day it will bear fruits. So it will take a while for the stimulus to passing through the economy chain.

DJ will test 9600 region and 10000 mark on Q4. Do not listen to speculation they want you to sell and enter the market. Its the fact of life.

  Friday Effect + 2 days of bad news. DJ drop only 76.79 ..... Monday DJ will rise high with the massive buy in before closing.


 




 
 
ronleech
    15-Aug-2009 07:55  
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I think it will go up on monday.......base on the last minutes buy up from dip...

aleoleo      ( Date: 15-Aug-2009 07:23) Posted:



Wall St Week Ahead-Stocks could pull back as earnings end

NEW YORK, Aug 14 (Reuters) - U.S. stocks could extend this week's retreat after a four-week advance as the earnings season winds down and investors search for signs that consumer spending will help sustain an economic recovery.

Less than 50 Standard & Poor's 500 companies remain to report quarterly financial results, including the two major home improvement retailers, Lowe's Companies (LOW.N) and Home Depot Inc (HD.N). Clothing retailer Gap Inc (GPS.N) and discount chain store Target (TGT.N) are also on tap.

 

 
smartrader
    15-Aug-2009 07:39  
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Give you a good post rating for the efforts in consolidating the Business Times Weekend Summary...hehe

risktaker      ( Date: 15-Aug-2009 06:11) Posted:



Also if you analyse the closing of DJ - Last hour volume is incredible Huge buy in. 

 

Why it shouldnt drop so much.
1) Many major economy is out of recession. Germany, France. US expected 3rd quarter.
2) DJ will carry on its resilence on bad news until Q3 results proven that US economy is on the wrong track.
3) HK is out of recession, Singapore is out of recession and I believed we are seeing growth in Q3 too. for full year 2009 we might growth instead of contraction. As those guys working on the figures, they cant really analyse properly and over estimate the pull back. Its like its better to report badly now than to have a positive outlook and  when results out it failed. So figures from SG government is always prepared for the worst. But really the worst is over. We will see growth in Q3.


There are a lot of people on the side lines that are hoping for a major pull back or a major market correction. These investors/funds manager will start speculations about stocks rally that wont hold the ground. As they keep saying about the fundementals is weak or bad. So that those people who exited the market earlier or never enter the market can buy in at a cheaper price. This quarter you will see Obama stimulus effect kick in. So US Q3 should have less than 0.3 contraction or 0.2 percent growth.


The situation is different from march and august. The fundementals isnt that bad anymore. Dark Clouds that cast a shadow over the economy has almost disappeared we are able to confirm this in Q3. Q3 is an important quarter for US should it contract over 1% the stimulus is not working as expect the stock market will crashed again. However it is very unlikely that we will see contraction over 1%, most company so far has risen their outlook to more positively. Industrial production has growth for the first time in 9 months, stimulus effect is kicking in.


True that the US unemployment rate will increase but its the fact of life about economy, it will always lack behind the real economy. You cant expect when you plant a durain tree and the next day it will bear fruits. So it will take a while for the stimulus to passing through the economy chain.

DJ will test 9600 region and 10000 mark on Q4. Do not listen to speculation they want you to sell and enter the market. Its the fact of life.

  Friday Effect + 2 days of bad news. DJ drop only 76.79 ..... Monday DJ will rise high with the massive buy in before closing.


 



 
 
el7888
    15-Aug-2009 07:24  
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Updated: 15th August 2009, 0500 hrs   
US consumer confidence drops unexpectedly, dragging down Wall Street


A grim reading on US consumer confidence has darkened the outlook for the country’s economic recovery.

The University of Michigan's report that consumer sentiment in August had unexpectedly headed south rattled US and European stock markets.

The sentiment index dipped to a preliminary level of 63.2 from 66, confounding most analysts who had expected it to rise to a reading of 69.

It was the second straight month of decline after four monthly increases.

In June, the index hit its highest level since February last year at 70.8.

The weak consumer sentiment reading lent support to a poorer outlook for consumer spending, the main driver of US economic activity.

Separately, the Federal Reserve reported that US industries boosted production in July for the first time in 9 months.

Industrial production rose by 0.5 percent, a tick higher than the consensus forecast of 0.4 percent.

The Fed notes that the gain in July marked the first monthly increase since the world's largest economy officially entered recession.

Manufacturing output advanced 1 percent in July, led by a 20.1 percent jump in auto production.

Analysts say the stunning increase in auto production was due to the government’s “cash-for-clunkers” programme.

Another report by the US Labor Department showed that consumer prices held unchanged in July from June, in line with expectations.

Core Consumer Price Index (CPI) rose 0.1 percent, slowing from a 0.2 percent rise in June.

Compared to the same period last year, CPI dropped 2.1 percent, the steepest fall since 1950.

The Labor Department says the decline was due to an unfavorable comparison with pre-global meltdown conditions.

Following the results, US stocks fell broadly, as the major indices snapped a four-week streak of gains.

The Dow Jones industrial average dipped 76 points, or 0.8 percent, to 9,321.

The Standard & Poor's 500 Index lost 8 points, or 0.8 percent, to 1,004.

And the Nasdaq Composite Index dropped 24 points, or 1.2 percent, to 1,985
 
 
aleoleo
    15-Aug-2009 07:23  
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Wall St Week Ahead-Stocks could pull back as earnings end

NEW YORK, Aug 14 (Reuters) - U.S. stocks could extend this week's retreat after a four-week advance as the earnings season winds down and investors search for signs that consumer spending will help sustain an economic recovery.

Less than 50 Standard & Poor's 500 companies remain to report quarterly financial results, including the two major home improvement retailers, Lowe's Companies (LOW.N) and Home Depot Inc (HD.N). Clothing retailer Gap Inc (GPS.N) and discount chain store Target (TGT.N) are also on tap.
 
 
risktaker
    15-Aug-2009 06:11  
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Also if you analyse the closing of DJ - Last hour volume is incredible Huge buy in. 

 

Why it shouldnt drop so much.
1) Many major economy is out of recession. Germany, France. US expected 3rd quarter.
2) DJ will carry on its resilence on bad news until Q3 results proven that US economy is on the wrong track.
3) HK is out of recession, Singapore is out of recession and I believed we are seeing growth in Q3 too. for full year 2009 we might growth instead of contraction. As those guys working on the figures, they cant really analyse properly and over estimate the pull back. Its like its better to report badly now than to have a positive outlook and  when results out it failed. So figures from SG government is always prepared for the worst. But really the worst is over. We will see growth in Q3.


There are a lot of people on the side lines that are hoping for a major pull back or a major market correction. These investors/funds manager will start speculations about stocks rally that wont hold the ground. As they keep saying about the fundementals is weak or bad. So that those people who exited the market earlier or never enter the market can buy in at a cheaper price. This quarter you will see Obama stimulus effect kick in. So US Q3 should have less than 0.3 contraction or 0.2 percent growth.


The situation is different from march and august. The fundementals isnt that bad anymore. Dark Clouds that cast a shadow over the economy has almost disappeared we are able to confirm this in Q3. Q3 is an important quarter for US should it contract over 1% the stimulus is not working as expect the stock market will crashed again. However it is very unlikely that we will see contraction over 1%, most company so far has risen their outlook to more positively. Industrial production has growth for the first time in 9 months, stimulus effect is kicking in.


True that the US unemployment rate will increase but its the fact of life about economy, it will always lack behind the real economy. You cant expect when you plant a durain tree and the next day it will bear fruits. So it will take a while for the stimulus to passing through the economy chain.

DJ will test 9600 region and 10000 mark on Q4. Do not listen to speculation they want you to sell and enter the market. Its the fact of life.

  Friday Effect + 2 days of bad news. DJ drop only 76.79 ..... Monday DJ will rise high with the massive buy in before closing.


 


 

 
risktaker
    15-Aug-2009 05:28  
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DOW drop 76.79 not so bad :) Looks good from here with the bad news from yesterday and today. Its healthy.

handon      ( Date: 15-Aug-2009 01:13) Posted:

my boss said.... bad sentiments continue.... 9.0 can be... hehe... Smiley

 
 
ravikp
    15-Aug-2009 01:24  
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Is there any income tax for share market earns? if yes how much it is? thanks...
 
 
handon
    15-Aug-2009 01:13  
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my boss said.... bad sentiments continue.... 9.0 can be... hehe... Smiley
 
 
risktaker
    14-Aug-2009 23:28  
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your correct. But dow shouldnt drop over 100. 

cheongwee      ( Date: 14-Aug-2009 23:26) Posted:

if it is down, on what basic...poor data???..today only sentiment out...it is a no issue...but they choose to take profit...so they give this as reason...

i thk next week shd be ok,,,HK is out ofrecession...surprise...next will be Asean..

market next week will cheong irrespective of dow..anticipating this region to be out of receesion soon...

hope it is for real.....



m0shii      ( Date: 14-Aug-2009 23:19) Posted:

US also post increase in Q2 but DOW Jones proved opposite....??...


 
 
dealer0168
    14-Aug-2009 23:28  
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Monday maybe a day fr us to go to market to buy "things" again.......loh
 

 
aleoleo
    14-Aug-2009 23:27  
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The weak consumer sentiment report overshadowed other data that showed U.S. industrial production rose more than expected in July, beating the market forecast.
 
 
cheongwee
    14-Aug-2009 23:26  
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if it is down, on what basic...poor data???..today only sentiment out...it is a no issue...but they choose to take profit...so they give this as reason...

i thk next week shd be ok,,,HK is out ofrecession...surprise...next will be Asean..

market next week will cheong irrespective of dow..anticipating this region to be out of receesion soon...

hope it is for real.....



m0shii      ( Date: 14-Aug-2009 23:19) Posted:

US also post increase in Q2 but DOW Jones proved opposite....??...

 
 
m0shii
    14-Aug-2009 23:19  
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US also post increase in Q2 but DOW Jones proved opposite....??...
 
 
ronleech
    14-Aug-2009 23:10  
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Just called china frd and ask...he say government checking on coy account and ppl start pulling out cash from stock mkt and deposite into coy account which they use to speculate...So likely SSE wont see much until the day this blow is over, which is very soon cos mkt have dropped more then 10% for the past one week...
 
 
smartrader
    14-Aug-2009 22:58  
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meaning always at 9.3 ?
 
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