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Thanks bro for sharing your view. Nice sharing! I can see that you belong to the Investor Group.  There's a difference between investing in stocks or playing stocks.  To invest for a stable return, most of what you said is very true. To play a stock(for short term like contra), I think Technical Analysis and watching price movement are the priority. So it actually depend on individual whether they want to invest in a stock or play a stock.

A company can have  very good fundamental and value but if BBs, Funds etc are not interested, the price still won't move.  I personally won't buy this kind of counter and wait for BBs or Funds to get interested because I don't know how long I have to wait. I will prefer to buy a counter with potential and which BBs and Funds have  immediate  interest in it.  Like that, I can see my return faster. 

Juat my 2-cents worth!

Huat ah!     

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 15:19) Posted: Haha yeap, doesn't mean that the longer we hold, the more money we make. My strategy is to buy stocks which are normally suppressed and undervalued after i run a check on it's fundamentals, and taking into account it's potential, growth prospects, risk and yield factor etc... I personally know fund managers who are always on a lookout for these stocks. To me whether retail investors or institutional investors, BBs or fund houses, etc..., we are all just a part of the market and would want to invest in something that has value and can grow. In terms of BB world, there is also not just one BB but many many many BBs, and all invisible forces of buying/selling, value investing, trading, speculation, etc... would interact to what we call the Market. In terms of companies which no longer have any potential for further growth, one can also check the fundamentals of the company to access it's cash flow and debt, after which coming up with a risk/yield level to determine the price of the company stock. But for retail investors like most of us here are, it would be good to look at average dividends paid out annually. So I suppose if a company is risk-free, i can give it a conservative risk or discount factor of 0.04, and if it's average dividends paid out per year is like 0.125, the intrinsic value of the company as a mature and stable dividend-yield company with limited potential for growth would be $3.125. Corrections and volatility do occur in the short term but in the long term, prices will still match back to their fundamentals for these companies (unless their fundamentals really change). Therefore, for companies which no longer have any potential growth and if their annual dividends paid out per year is very little, it's intrinsic value would be matched accordingly (some S-chip companies pay really miserable dividends and I can't see how much growth they can produce with their retained earnings). Ultimately, the thing I look out for in companies is whether they have value or not. And I would only buy if they are really cheap and considering their stability and risk, whether for capital gain companies or dividend-play companies. For capital gain companies, I would normally sell after it has reached my target price. Sorry for the long post as when I talked about investing, I can always go on and on. Investing is just like planting a tree. In terms of capital gain companies, is like you watch it grow from a seedling to a mature tree. For dividend-yield companies, is like you eat the fruits from the tree. A fruit tree that can produce many fruits (dividends) and on a land with fertile soil (cash-rich), and in an environment with stable weather conditions (debt/risk) will naturally fetch a high value once farmers and people (the Market) realize it. Lastly, thanks to Bro Simpsons for adding me.. Everyone HUAT!! =) Stockcham      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 11:57) Posted: No problem bro! Anytime you want to join we welcome you. One thing good about our club is that we do not need a member to bring visitor in...Lol. You can come anytime you like to share your experience to us. That will  benefit all of us.  Critics & Enemies are hard to avoid. This makes up a forum. It is impossible to have a forum with only nice peoples. I think the  best way  is  not to hit back because once you do so, you will end up spending precious time in word war. Of course, that doesn't mean we can allow them to continue to hit us. At times Critics & Enemies may provide another insight which we can learn from. In a  society, we have Gangster, Rich people and Police. Gangster  scared of Police, Police scared of Rich people, Rich people scared of Gangster. This makes up a society.So in a stock market, you will have longist and shortist. The purpose of peoples in the stock market  is to make money. It's just that each one use different trading skill to makes money. You can't avoid it. Being shortist requires special trading skill as he will have to see things the opposite way. Just like our Bro ace333, his shorting skill real good. I learn from him " Short to Strength" , " Short at Resistance" and " Short weak stock" . I don't short because I don't have the time to sit there and monitor for a long time. But when I retired in the future, I will certainly learn to short because that's another way of making money.  As for holding for long term, I personally don't favour that. I think people who loss most are those that hold for long term. In my opinion, the  returns doesn't mean that the longer we hold, we will make more money. Stocks will move more when peoples see the company's potential to continue growth each year regardless whether they are currently in the red.  A company that always makes money with not much growth won't move much.  For me, if I were to hold a stock, I will prefer to buy a counter not only with  potential, but  most important the counter must be the popular one which BBs wants to push up. For some counters, BBs will keep pushing it high maybe within 1 month to a few months. When BBs loss interests in it,  then it is time to  let go and source for another such counter. You see, by doing that our money will not be locked for a long time. No point keep a stock for 10 years or 20 years. How many 10-20 years do we have. Take for example Singtel. I sold it not long after it was listed at $4.00. How many years have gone and the price is still below $4.00. It's a waste of time. If a big correction occurs, I prefer to sell all my holdings and buy back later. Have a nice weekend too! Huat ah

 

Haha, I have seen again, no matter what a person does, though he may please a lot of people, but it is almost impossible for him to please every single soul! This is part of life!

 

  more like  Sister Act



or Adams Family

lol but I like your jokes both of you (" ,) (," )

muifan      ( Date: 17-Aug-2013 23:16) Posted: or they can also jio 300 members.... and call themselves....   300 warrenbegger      ( Date: 17-Aug-2013 19:22) Posted: Yesterday when a shooting star fly across the sky, I know this group of brotherhood and mei mei hood, should be call, " Stock of the Ring"

 

Haha yeap, doesn't mean that the longer we hold, the more money we make. My strategy is to buy stocks which are normally suppressed and undervalued after i run a check on it's fundamentals, and taking into account it's potential, growth prospects, risk and yield factor etc... I personally know fund managers who are always on a lookout for these stocks. To me whether retail investors or institutional investors, BBs or fund houses, etc..., we are all just a part of the market and would want to invest in something that has value and can grow. In terms of BB world, there is also not just one BB but many many many BBs, and all invisible forces of buying/selling, value investing, trading, speculation, etc... would interact to what we call the Market.

In terms of companies which no longer have any potential for further growth, one can also check the fundamentals of the company to access it's cash flow and debt, after which coming up with a risk/yield level to determine the price of the company stock. But for retail investors like most of us here are, it would be good to look at average dividends paid out annually. So I suppose if a company is risk-free, i can give it a conservative risk or discount factor of 0.04, and if it's average dividends paid out per year is like 0.125, the intrinsic value of the company as a mature and stable dividend-yield company with limited potential for growth would be $3.125. Corrections and volatility do occur in the short term but in the long term, prices will still match back to their fundamentals for these companies (unless their fundamentals really change). Therefore, for companies which no longer have any potential growth and if their annual dividends paid out per year is very little, it's intrinsic value would be matched accordingly (some S-chip companies pay really miserable dividends and I can't see how much growth they can produce with their retained earnings).

Ultimately, the thing I look out for in companies is whether they have value or not. And I would only buy if they are really cheap and considering their stability and risk, whether for capital gain companies or dividend-play companies. For capital gain companies, I would normally sell after it has reached my target price. Sorry for the long post as when I talked about investing, I can always go on and on. Investing is just like planting a tree. In terms of capital gain companies, is like you watch it grow from a seedling to a mature tree. For dividend-yield companies, is like you eat the fruits from the tree. A fruit tree that can produce many fruits (dividends) and on a land with fertile soil (cash-rich), and in an environment with stable weather conditions (debt/risk) will naturally fetch a high value once farmers and people (the Market) realize it. Lastly, thanks to Bro Simpsons for adding me.. Everyone HUAT!! =)

Stockcham      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 11:57) Posted: No problem bro! Anytime you want to join we welcome you. One thing good about our club is that we do not need a member to bring visitor in...Lol. You can come anytime you like to share your experience to us. That will  benefit all of us.  Critics & Enemies are hard to avoid. This makes up a forum. It is impossible to have a forum with only nice peoples. I think the  best way  is  not to hit back because once you do so, you will end up spending precious time in word war. Of course, that doesn't mean we can allow them to continue to hit us. At times Critics & Enemies may provide another insight which we can learn from. In a  society, we have Gangster, Rich people and Police. Gangster  scared of Police, Police scared of Rich people, Rich people scared of Gangster. This makes up a society.So in a stock market, you will have longist and shortist. The purpose of peoples in the stock market  is to make money. It's just that each one use different trading skill to makes money. You can't avoid it. Being shortist requires special trading skill as he will have to see things the opposite way. Just like our Bro ace333, his shorting skill real good. I learn from him " Short to Strength" , " Short at Resistance" and " Short weak stock" . I don't short because I don't have the time to sit there and monitor for a long time. But when I retired in the future, I will certainly learn to short because that's another way of making money.  As for holding for long term, I personally don't favour that. I think people who loss most are those that hold for long term. In my opinion, the  returns doesn't mean that the longer we hold, we will make more money. Stocks will move more when peoples see the company's potential to continue growth each year regardless whether they are currently in the red.  A company that always makes money with not much growth won't move much.  For me, if I were to hold a stock, I will prefer to buy a counter not only with  potential, but  most important the counter must be the popular one which BBs wants to push up. For some counters, BBs will keep pushing it high maybe within 1 month to a few months. When BBs loss interests in it,  then it is time to  let go and source for another such counter. You see, by doing that our money will not be locked for a long time. No point keep a stock for 10 years or 20 years. How many 10-20 years do we have. Take for example Singtel. I sold it not long after it was listed at $4.00. How many years have gone and the price is still below $4.00. It's a waste of time. If a big correction occurs, I prefer to sell all my holdings and buy back later. Have a nice weekend too! Huat ah! SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 04:44) Posted: Haha thanks for the invitation but better not otherwise later all my " enemies" and " critics" come here and disturb the peace and happiness of this house. Don't want to turn this nice thread into a " 溏 心 風 暴 之 家 好 月 圓 " forum..  I used to actually hold negative views about day traders or punters but after having stayed in SJ for some time, my perceptions have changed. I realize not everyone has to follow my philosophy of investing. Even traders and punters, or even shortists (even though I still dislike them since they are in a position against mine) have significant roles to play in the stock market. Ultimately, it has got to do with the underlying intention of why one do something that determines what's good or bad. Trading or " gambling" in stocks can be a healthy interest and hobby and even fun as long as one is not too obsessed in it. As long as treated like just a leisure activity and not place too heavy emphasis on it, it can be an engaging and enjoyable activity. I benefited from your " Great Wall of China" and market depth theory. Would also like to take the opportunity to thank sifu teeth53 as I also benefited from his IPO analysis and market depth analysis. Lastly, also to Bro KelvinLim123 (if he happens to be reading), even though sometimes his words are rude and unkind, what he said about cutting loss and " trend is your friend" is actually correct, especially for short-term trading and punting. Failed to see from his point of view that time as a short-term trader or investor for certain stocks.   All the rules and regulations in this club are therefore very correct especially when the time horizon is short. Unless one is really very sure about the growth prospects and future value of a company (that does not pay dividends yet), investing long term can be a " scary" affair and need lots of patience. Anyway wish everyone HUAT!! Have a great Sunday and I shall be off to bed now.. =)

 

Agree. Should use the login name instead, so when there is any post, we know who is who! HUAT AH!

guoyanyunyan      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 15:08) Posted: @bro Simpsons please update the member list as: 24. guoyanyunyan 25. Octavia ..le bai jit... hor lu bo eng... pai seh.... kam sia...

 

@bro Simpsons

please update the member list as:

24. guoyanyunyan

25. Octavia

..le bai jit... hor lu bo eng... pai seh.... kam sia...

 

Bro, correct. I was thinking of compiling the number of posts this weekend compared to the posts of the days or other weekend, just to show all the brothers and sisters about the strong accumulation in this thread this weekend, and it is sign to CHIONG. LOL! LOL! Wish all brothers and sisters HUAT BIG BIG!

bulletproofheart      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 14:51) Posted: I think this is the weekend with the most number of posts. Why all of u so free one ah?? Haha. Thanks bro Simpson for creating tt member list. I'm perfectly fine with my no. 9 as well. I nv knew got so many ppl in this forum. I don't think I even talk to more than 10 of u all. Looking forward to more sharing of views. Huat ah!!!

 

Bro csk I totally agree with ur views. U jin wu eng today. Haha. Huat ah!

cskshares      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 14:51) Posted: Bro, before coming to SJ, I may agree with your points, and this is exactly what I was doing. After reading your view, if I understand correctly, it seems to me that this is opposite of what I learn here in SJ, especially in this thread. For what I learned here, once you sense you made a mistake, make the decision fast to cut, instead of hoping and praying that there is an u-turn, and from what I see so far, I do agree with whoever commented about it, most of the time, there is no u-turn. About nurturing the stocks, it might work well if the market sentiment is very good. My sister did tell me that earlier on, I think should be end of last year to early this year, almost any counter she buys, will eventually make money, that was when the market is SUPER good. Furthermore, I believe majority of us here don't have deep pockets, cannot hold many counters and wait for it to germinate and start to grow. For those many counters I am holding now with paper loss, if I cut now, I still can get back quite a bit of money. But if the market crashes now, I know all of them can really turn to become paper, worthless.  This is my personal opinion from what I have learned so far. Please do correct me if I am wrong.  star-trader      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 14:02) Posted: My personal view only.. Rule 3) , though my initial trading was based on this (Eg: 7% stop loss,etc..) but no longer valid for my current trading system.. Basically, 1) In any technical analysis stocks you want to trade, should always ensure that Fundamental Analysis is intact for the stock that you want to trade, be it short,mid or long term.. This will minimal the risk, although I won't say totally eliminate all risks. 2) Never trade using contra as any stocks need time to nurture, like a " nurturing a plant" .. It can be 1,2 to 4 weeks..but sell when the target price is hit and reap profits. Holding power is important.. ------> Have you ever experienced, when you sold using cut loss system, and it bounced back again after that? With the right combination of technical indicators,time frame to lock a position of a certain stock ( Each stock got different dates to lock in, that's why you see uptrend/downtrend..except those in-active,low volume stocks..) 3) Do not use all the technical indicators, but rather choose those that you comfortable with, at least 3 to 5.. and not more than that.  3) Emotion..another big topic.. 4) Many more..but can't finish in this page itself.. All the best and this is only my personal view..  Star-Trader

 

Bro, before coming to SJ, I may agree with your points, and this is exactly what I was doing.

After reading your view, if I understand correctly, it seems to me that this is opposite of what I learn here in SJ, especially in this thread.

For what I learned here, once you sense you made a mistake, make the decision fast to cut, instead of hoping and praying that there is an u-turn, and from what I see so far, I do agree with whoever commented about it, most of the time, there is no u-turn.

About nurturing the stocks, it might work well if the market sentiment is very good. My sister did tell me that earlier on, I think should be end of last year to early this year, almost any counter she buys, will eventually make money, that was when the market is SUPER good.

Furthermore, I believe majority of us here don't have deep pockets, cannot hold many counters and wait for it to germinate and start to grow.

For those many counters I am holding now with paper loss, if I cut now, I still can get back quite a bit of money. But if the market crashes now, I know all of them can really turn to become paper, worthless. 

This is my personal opinion from what I have learned so far. Please do correct me if I am wrong. 

star-trader      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 14:02) Posted: My personal view only.. Rule 3) , though my initial trading was based on this (Eg: 7% stop loss,etc..) but no longer valid for my current trading system.. Basically, 1) In any technical analysis stocks you want to trade, should always ensure that Fundamental Analysis is intact for the stock that you want to trade, be it short,mid or long term.. This will minimal the risk, although I won't say totally eliminate all risks. 2) Never trade using contra as any stocks need time to nurture, like a " nurturing a plant" .. It can be 1,2 to 4 weeks..but sell when the target price is hit and reap profits. Holding power is important.. ------> Have you ever experienced, when you sold using cut loss system, and it bounced back again after that? With the right combination of technical indicators,time frame to lock a position of a certain stock ( Each stock got different dates to lock in, that's why you see uptrend/downtrend..except those in-active,low volume stocks..) 3) Do not use all the technical indicators, but rather choose those that you comfortable with, at least 3 to 5.. and not more than that.  3) Emotion..another big topic.. 4) Many more..but can't finish in this page itself.. All the best and this is only my personal view..  Star-Trader

 

I think this is the weekend with the most number of posts. Why all of u so free one ah?? Haha. Thanks bro Simpson for creating tt member list. I'm perfectly fine with my no. 9 as well. I nv knew got so many ppl in this forum. I don't think I even talk to more than 10 of u all. Looking forward to more sharing of views. Huat ah!!!

 

Sister Falcon, it is not that I already got the hang of it, but really Bo Pian. Didn't know how to cut loss before, and now still baby sit many many counters from the poor experience before. Pai Seh to tell you how many counters I am babysitting now. Just to tell you it is many. So, I really cannot to afford to hold even 1 more at the moment, unless I am able to clear any one of them if they happen to KI SIAU to move nearer to my buying price, I am ready to cut just like what you did for your Innopac.

Unless I hear good comments from Sifus in the examples of Innopac and Unionmet, then I still hold. But FL, it was ready not I wanted to buy, I was tricked into it by the fake buy q. And Bro Stockcham already informed BOH SHUI for the closing. Another sifu also said not a good sign for that closing, so I really don't want to hold and pray hard any more. Guess what, after cutting, so peaceful though paid tuition fee, and was able to crack jokes and enjoy free shows in SJ for Thursday and Friday. If not, would be so tensed. LOL.

Well, I am learning everyday here, though I am slow learner. HUAT AH! 

Falcon      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 14:13) Posted: Bro Cskshares, I'm still polishing my cut loss skill. I see that You alredy get the hang of it. Losing is inevitable smtimes if You want to stay in d game. As long as its small dont worry, You will make more this week. Huat ah! Btw I've sold Freightlink last Thurs at 0.144, didnt make anything. I was not comfortable with the new deal with City Harvest. I need to 'believe' in a stock even if its a one day affair, lol. Cheers! cskshares      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 13:38) Posted: Bro, yes, I was caught in FreightLink fake q on Thursday. For those who are still new, hope you learn from my experience, so you don't have to pay tuition fee again to learn for yourself. I q 145 Wednesday night. Thursday morning, saw the matching at 146, but it did change to 140 for a few seconds, I felt something is not right. But then it moves back to 146, and then 147. I wanted to withdraw my q, but thought 145 is still quite safe. Last minute saw the big qs at 147 fully disappeared, and 146 also disappeared, immediately tried to withdraw, rejected, it was already done at 146. At opening, immediately sold down to 145, mine done. Went down a bit, I observed first, and it did move up a bit, should have sold higher looking at all these negative signs, again, hope it can move up, finally came down again, immediately I cut at 143. Have decided not to q before opening seeing too many fake buy qs b4 opening. Even if I will q, must know how to look at negative signs and withdraw quick enough. Since I am not so good yet to read signs, will not q at the moment b4 opening. For a new person like me, following our COO's advice of wait and see during the first 10 minutes of opening, should be safer. HUAT AH!

 

Ya, you told me that. So I only q 145, not chasing the 146 or 147, and ready to withdraw any time. And then see it should match at 146 or 147, got deceived, and didn't withdraw. Well, indeed learnt a great lesson, saw the fake buy q b4 opening 3 days in a row. Wednesday in Centurion, Thursday in FL and Friday in ISOTeam. Sure already grow wiser after this 3 days lesson. At least shouldn't fall into this same trap again. LOL.

Ok, now I learned that we get the order ready, but leaving the last step right? And any moment, just press the button. Anyway, will try my very best not to put myself into this kind of last minute scenario again.

Thank you for teaching! 

Stockcham      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 14:06) Posted: Remember I told you that the closing the previous day bo swee right? .I queue match sell in the morning first n keyed in my withdraw order. If matching expected to be normal then just one click I can withdraw my sell order. If not normal, I don't have to kan chiong keyed in sell orders if the queue suddenly withdraw mins before it starts. Huat ah! cskshares      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 13:38) Posted: Bro, yes, I was caught in FreightLink fake q on Thursday. For those who are still new, hope you learn from my experience, so you don't have to pay tuition fee again to learn for yourself. I q 145 Wednesday night. Thursday morning, saw the matching at 146, but it did change to 140 for a few seconds, I felt something is not right. But then it moves back to 146, and then 147. I wanted to withdraw my q, but thought 145 is still quite safe. Last minute saw the big qs at 147 fully disappeared, and 146 also disappeared, immediately tried to withdraw, rejected, it was already done at 146. At opening, immediately sold down to 145, mine done. Went down a bit, I observed first, and it did move up a bit, should have sold higher looking at all these negative signs, again, hope it can move up, finally came down again, immediately I cut at 143. Have decided not to q before opening seeing too many fake buy qs b4 opening. Even if I will q, must know how to look at negative signs and withdraw quick enough. Since I am not so good yet to read signs, will not q at the moment b4 opening. For a new person like me, following our COO's advice of wait and see during the first 10 minutes of opening, should be safer. HUAT AH!

 

Bro Cskshares, I'm still polishing my cut loss skill. I see that You alredy get the hang of it. Losing is inevitable smtimes if You want to stay in d game. As long as its small dont worry, You will make more this week. Huat ah! Btw I've sold Freightlink last Thurs at 0.144, didnt make anything. I was not comfortable with the new deal with City Harvest. I need to 'believe' in a stock even if its a one day affair, lol. Cheers!

cskshares      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 13:38) Posted: Bro, yes, I was caught in FreightLink fake q on Thursday. For those who are still new, hope you learn from my experience, so you don't have to pay tuition fee again to learn for yourself. I q 145 Wednesday night. Thursday morning, saw the matching at 146, but it did change to 140 for a few seconds, I felt something is not right. But then it moves back to 146, and then 147. I wanted to withdraw my q, but thought 145 is still quite safe. Last minute saw the big qs at 147 fully disappeared, and 146 also disappeared, immediately tried to withdraw, rejected, it was already done at 146. At opening, immediately sold down to 145, mine done. Went down a bit, I observed first, and it did move up a bit, should have sold higher looking at all these negative signs, again, hope it can move up, finally came down again, immediately I cut at 143. Have decided not to q before opening seeing too many fake buy qs b4 opening. Even if I will q, must know how to look at negative signs and withdraw quick enough. Since I am not so good yet to read signs, will not q at the moment b4 opening. For a new person like me, following our COO's advice of wait and see during the first 10 minutes of opening, should be safer. HUAT AH!  Stockcham      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 13:14) Posted: I noticed one bro(can't remember who) said he nearly bought ISO Team. I think it is important to share this again for the benefit of new members here. Pls remember this. If anyone intends to match buy or sell in the morning after the counter had chiong yesterday, under the below kind of scenario, can match sell and cannot match buy....very risky. Also, better don't touch these kind of  counters when market just starts. 1) When volumn keeps increasing on the buy side with buy side volumn much bigger than sell side( buy side 3000 lots and sell side 1000 lots), and it doesn't moves up 1 pip, 2 pip and so on. Cannot buy and better sell. This happens to Centurion when match price is 49. 2) Minutes before market starts, the big buy  volumn at buy side withdraw OR withdraw and  drop 1-2 pip. Example now the  price is expected to match at 49. Minutes before it closed for any orders before market start, it drops to 485.  Cannot buy and better sell. This happen to Freightlinks when it nearly match at 147 but later drop 1 pip to  match at 146. Also happened to ISO Team when it nearly match at 45 but later drop 2 pips and match at 44. The above are very common and if you avoid this, it can save you some money. Good Luck! Huat ah!

 

Remember I told you that the closing the previous day bo swee right? .I queue match sell in the morning first n keyed in my withdraw order. If matching expected to be normal then just one click I can withdraw my sell order. If not normal, I don't have to kan chiong keyed in sell orders if the queue suddenly withdraw mins before it starts.

Huat ah!

cskshares      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 13:38) Posted: Bro, yes, I was caught in FreightLink fake q on Thursday. For those who are still new, hope you learn from my experience, so you don't have to pay tuition fee again to learn for yourself. I q 145 Wednesday night. Thursday morning, saw the matching at 146, but it did change to 140 for a few seconds, I felt something is not right. But then it moves back to 146, and then 147. I wanted to withdraw my q, but thought 145 is still quite safe. Last minute saw the big qs at 147 fully disappeared, and 146 also disappeared, immediately tried to withdraw, rejected, it was already done at 146. At opening, immediately sold down to 145, mine done. Went down a bit, I observed first, and it did move up a bit, should have sold higher looking at all these negative signs, again, hope it can move up, finally came down again, immediately I cut at 143. Have decided not to q before opening seeing too many fake buy qs b4 opening. Even if I will q, must know how to look at negative signs and withdraw quick enough. Since I am not so good yet to read signs, will not q at the moment b4 opening. For a new person like me, following our COO's advice of wait and see during the first 10 minutes of opening, should be safer. HUAT AH!  Stockcham      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 13:14) Posted: I noticed one bro(can't remember who) said he nearly bought ISO Team. I think it is important to share this again for the benefit of new members here. Pls remember this. If anyone intends to match buy or sell in the morning after the counter had chiong yesterday, under the below kind of scenario, can match sell and cannot match buy....very risky. Also, better don't touch these kind of  counters when market just starts. 1) When volumn keeps increasing on the buy side with buy side volumn much bigger than sell side( buy side 3000 lots and sell side 1000 lots), and it doesn't moves up 1 pip, 2 pip and so on. Cannot buy and better sell. This happens to Centurion when match price is 49. 2) Minutes before market starts, the big buy  volumn at buy side withdraw OR withdraw and  drop 1-2 pip. Example now the  price is expected to match at 49. Minutes before it closed for any orders before market start, it drops to 485.  Cannot buy and better sell. This happen to Freightlinks when it nearly match at 147 but later drop 1 pip to  match at 146. Also happened to ISO Team when it nearly match at 45 but later drop 2 pips and match at 44. The above are very common and if you avoid this, it can save you some money. Good Luck! Huat ah!

 

My personal view only..

Rule 3) , though my initial trading was based on this (Eg: 7% stop loss,etc..) but no longer valid for my current trading system..

Basically,
1) In any technical analysis stocks you want to trade, should always ensure that Fundamental Analysis is intact for the stock that you want to trade, be it short,mid or long term.. This will minimal the risk, although I won't say totally eliminate all risks.

2) Never trade using contra as any stocks need time to nurture, like a " nurturing a plant" .. It can be 1,2 to 4 weeks..but sell when the target price is hit and reap profits.
Holding power is important..

------> Have you ever experienced, when you sold using cut loss system, and it bounced back again after that? With the right combination of technical indicators,time frame to lock a position of a certain stock ( Each stock got different dates to lock in, that's why you see uptrend/downtrend..except those in-active,low volume stocks..)

3) Do not use all the technical indicators, but rather choose those that you comfortable with, at least 3 to 5.. and not more than that. 

3) Emotion..another big topic..

4) Many more..but can't finish in this page itself..

All the best and this is only my personal view.. 

Star-Trader 

 

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Simpsons      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 12:13) Posted: 18/8/2013 18:08 -Grand Opening, ribbon cutting, press conference & cocktail will be served. Official launch of "Any Stocks Also Can Discuss Forum" Aka RBB (Ride BB)  *Membership offically closed.* New members will be added every 18th day of the following month. Pls PM me & indicate your gender. Kum siah, If not i "bo eng" to trade lol... Pls take note of our club's rules & regulations as follow   1) Don't chase a stock  2) Remember to take profit   3) Must have cut loss system   4) DYODD   P/s-(b) is bro & (s) is sis.. Management Team:  1.) Stockcham-Advisor aka 股 哥 (b)  2.) Ace333-Chairman (b)  3.) Librajet-Ceo(b)  4.) Joseeng-Coo (b)  5.) Peter_pan-Cso(b)  6.) Winterqq-Cfo(s)  Members:   7.) Cskshares (b)  8.) Novice_trader (b)  9.) Bulletproofheart (b)  10.) Pauperman (b)  11.) Gold916 (s)  12.) Hallelujah (s)  13.) GorgeousOng (s)  14.) Iluvboast (b)  15.) Jarollo (b)  16.) Dicksonh (b)  17.) Jfierce (b)  18.) Stockbabe (s)  19.) Verynew (b)  20.) Veryverynew (s)  21.) Simpsons (b)  22.) Sugeee (s)  23.) 71ltan(b)  24.) 云 妹 (s)  25.) Mancho Man(b)  26.) Danielngel(b)  27.) Dividend_warrior(b)  28.) Stratagem(b)  29.) Patkeane(b)  30.) Avid1980(s)  31.) Louis_lecs(b)  32.) Tomique(b)  33.) Netengineer(b)  34.) Susan66 (s)  35.) Qwertyuiop00 (b) 36.) PandaWarrior(b)  37.) Hellogoodbye(b)  38.) Solidbuy(b)  39.) Emilyn (s)  40.) Summerfairy (s)  41.) Churnw (b)  42.) Humtaro (s) 43.) Rosewood (s) 44.) Myjourney (b) 45.) Falcon (s) 46.) Sfguyrulez (b) 47.) Rocky1 (b) 48.) Et6996 (b) 49.) Alvinngsh (b) 50.) Winzky (b) Treasurer-BB aka 股 灾  (ASACDF's ATM)

 

LOL. No problem. We all will await you all in the sub committee to decide on the performance, as long as the performance is HOT and SPICY. CHEERS!

Falcon      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 13:38) Posted: LoL, no pom pom here. We r stepping it up, expect Pussycat Dolls performance ! cskshares      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 13:22) Posted: Bro iluvboost, this can be arranged on that day of our Grand Opening. Bro Simpsons and his sub committee is still busy arranging for that day, ribbon cutting, press conference, cocktail, lion dance or may be dragon dance. For the POM POM Cheerleader Team on that day, should not be a problem, sisters form around 30% of our work force here, so to have 4 or 8 of them in the POM POM Cheerleader Team should work out fine. Will keep you all informed about the final details of our Grand Opening Event. By the way, the committee has responded to our advisor's request to invite Warren Buffet for ribbon cutting, his reply is that he might not be able to make it due to his busy schedule, but will get his secretary to do necessary adjustment, hopefully to be able to grace our Grand Opening. HUAT AH

 

Sorry, typed too fast, missed one word. It should be ...  Last minute saw the big qs at 147 fully disappeared, and 146 also ALMOST disappeared.........

cskshares      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 13:38) Posted: Bro, yes, I was caught in FreightLink fake q on Thursday. For those who are still new, hope you learn from my experience, so you don't have to pay tuition fee again to learn for yourself. I q 145 Wednesday night. Thursday morning, saw the matching at 146, but it did change to 140 for a few seconds, I felt something is not right. But then it moves back to 146, and then 147. I wanted to withdraw my q, but thought 145 is still quite safe. Last minute saw the big qs at 147 fully disappeared, and 146 also disappeared, immediately tried to withdraw, rejected, it was already done at 146. At opening, immediately sold down to 145, mine done. Went down a bit, I observed first, and it did move up a bit, should have sold higher looking at all these negative signs, again, hope it can move up, finally came down again, immediately I cut at 143. Have decided not to q before opening seeing too many fake buy qs b4 opening. Even if I will q, must know how to look at negative signs and withdraw quick enough. Since I am not so good yet to read signs, will not q at the moment b4 opening. For a new person like me, following our COO's advice of wait and see during the first 10 minutes of opening, should be safer. HUAT AH!  Stockcham      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 13:14) Posted: I noticed one bro(can't remember who) said he nearly bought ISO Team. I think it is important to share this again for the benefit of new members here. Pls remember this. If anyone intends to match buy or sell in the morning after the counter had chiong yesterday, under the below kind of scenario, can match sell and cannot match buy....very risky. Also, better don't touch these kind of  counters when market just starts. 1) When volumn keeps increasing on the buy side with buy side volumn much bigger than sell side( buy side 3000 lots and sell side 1000 lots), and it doesn't moves up 1 pip, 2 pip and so on. Cannot buy and better sell. This happens to Centurion when match price is 49. 2) Minutes before market starts, the big buy  volumn at buy side withdraw OR withdraw and  drop 1-2 pip. Example now the  price is expected to match at 49. Minutes before it closed for any orders before market start, it drops to 485.  Cannot buy and better sell. This happen to Freightlinks when it nearly match at 147 but later drop 1 pip to  match at 146. Also happened to ISO Team when it nearly match at 45 but later drop 2 pips and match at 44. The above are very common and if you avoid this, it can save you some money. Good Luck! Huat ah!

 

LoL, no pom pom here. We r stepping it up, expect Pussycat Dolls performance !

cskshares      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 13:22) Posted: Bro iluvboost, this can be arranged on that day of our Grand Opening. Bro Simpsons and his sub committee is still busy arranging for that day, ribbon cutting, press conference, cocktail, lion dance or may be dragon dance. For the POM POM Cheerleader Team on that day, should not be a problem, sisters form around 30% of our work force here, so to have 4 or 8 of them in the POM POM Cheerleader Team should work out fine. Will keep you all informed about the final details of our Grand Opening Event. By the way, the committee has responded to our advisor's request to invite Warren Buffet for ribbon cutting, his reply is that he might not be able to make it due to his busy schedule, but will get his secretary to do necessary adjustment, hopefully to be able to grace our Grand Opening. HUAT AH! iluvboost      ( Date: 18-Aug-2013 13:02) Posted: bro, i never go swimming/jackpot.. focusing earn more $$ at work cos market harder to play since the correction. but i will post/share more if all the sisters here form a POM POM cheerleaders team, with photo. hahahahah