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tiancai007
    30-Aug-2012 10:37  
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Sinking ship... Where are the ah gongs???
 
 
yipyip
    30-Aug-2012 10:16  
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Price is below EMA10days, EMA20days and EMA50days.
http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=N03.SI&t=1m&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=e10%2Ce20%2Ce50&a=m26-12-9&c=
 
 
rutheone1905
    30-Aug-2012 09:51  
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thanks.

u see mkt so real. Friday hvnt come ppl all react to it. this is response ahead to news release.

so today probably will be a oversell becos  last few weeks since Aug's FOMC, price had been net net up becos expectation of QE3 in Sept. 

buy on dip is good becos QE of somekind has to be in to counter fiscal cliff by whoever president after election.   from 6 Nov ~ 1 Jan (very little time left)

so position urself carefully as such event will move good stocks up alot cos of inflationary effect. 
 

 
iPunter
    30-Aug-2012 09:40  
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Sifu is right... your post is very good...

    When people are loyal and love a stock, they will still be extremely loyal

        and staunchly 'singing the fundamentals' even after they have lost a fortune.

                  It applies to any stock too... it's purely emotional play (love)... lol...  Smiley   


 
 
bryancbq
    30-Aug-2012 09:33  
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Good advice :)

rutheone1905      ( Date: 30-Aug-2012 09:31) Posted:



u may be right but as trader u have to consider these:

1) with EU n US issues around n world econ no sign of booming will u wanna waste ur $ on containers coy?

2) the same $ u can park in reits at least

3) fundamental nothing to do with share price i.e. it maybe a damn fundamentally strong coy with strong backing but the shares ppl dump so u buy shares for loyalty or for profits, tat is reality.

4) when price keep falling for long time, there r alot of ppl kena trapped at various price level so when it moves up a little it will kena heavy selling so unless there is damn good reason for it cheong otherwise buying a long time dive shares is itself suicidal.

Hawkeye      ( Date: 30-Aug-2012 09:23) Posted:



NOL strong support is at $1.00

NOL is a strategic Operation to Singapore Economy as Shipping is to Great Britai


 
 
rutheone1905
    30-Aug-2012 09:31  
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u may be right but as trader u have to consider these:

1) with EU n US issues around n world econ no sign of booming will u wanna waste ur $ on containers coy?

2) the same $ u can park in reits at least

3) fundamental nothing to do with share price i.e. it maybe a damn fundamentally strong coy with strong backing but the shares ppl dump so u buy shares for loyalty or for profits, tat is reality.

4) when price keep falling for long time, there r alot of ppl kena trapped at various price level so when it moves up a little it will kena heavy selling so unless there is damn good reason for it cheong otherwise buying a long time dive shares is itself suicidal.

Hawkeye      ( Date: 30-Aug-2012 09:23) Posted:



NOL strong support is at $1.00

NOL is a strategic Operation to Singapore Economy as Shipping is to Great Britain

skk888      ( Date: 30-Aug-2012 08:50) Posted:

I don't think anyone should buy NOL. It has been making losses consequetively for months...... Probably more than 1 year. They even though of selling their building to turn into cash. Despite them having strong backing (see the board of directors), profitability is an issue. When can investor see it, guess not in the next couple of months.


 

 
iPunter
    30-Aug-2012 09:24  
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Whether one should or should not buy is not for anyone to say...

    Like I said, stocks is all betting... if one's bet is wrong, one will be pengsan... Smiley       


skk888      ( Date: 30-Aug-2012 08:50) Posted:

I don't think anyone should buy NOL. It has been making losses consequetively for months...... Probably more than 1 year. They even though of selling their building to turn into cash. Despite them having strong backing (see the board of directors), profitability is an issue. When can investor see it, guess not in the next couple of months.

 
 
Hawkeye
    30-Aug-2012 09:23  
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NOL strong support is at $1.00

NOL is a strategic Operation to Singapore Economy as Shipping is to Great Britain

skk888      ( Date: 30-Aug-2012 08:50) Posted:

I don't think anyone should buy NOL. It has been making losses consequetively for months...... Probably more than 1 year. They even though of selling their building to turn into cash. Despite them having strong backing (see the board of directors), profitability is an issue. When can investor see it, guess not in the next couple of months.

 
 
rutheone1905
    30-Aug-2012 09:21  
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tat sound like isolator's theory: buy n sit on it, wait long long sure go up one.

nvr consider inflation, nvr consider better use of funds, still think tat teamasak always correct in their investment, remember citigroup?

u must be joking rite? 

wanglausern      ( Date: 30-Aug-2012 02:09) Posted:



Sure can buy NOL. Don't you know that NOL has the backing of the nation's most powerful woman?

At this price close your eyes and buy as much as you can afford and you'll be rewarded in 1 to 2 years time.

tonylim      ( Date: 29-Aug-2012 16:49) Posted:

Most of the time losed money... how can buy this type of stoc


 
 
skk888
    30-Aug-2012 08:50  
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I don't think anyone should buy NOL. It has been making losses consequetively for months...... Probably more than 1 year. They even though of selling their building to turn into cash. Despite them having strong backing (see the board of directors), profitability is an issue. When can investor see it, guess not in the next couple of months.
 

 
iPunter
    30-Aug-2012 08:41  
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The problem is no one knows whether the trend will continue or not...

    People have been shouting " cheap" since it fell from 4.00 to 1.00+ now...

          At this low price, percentage drops is higher compared with the higher prices...

                eg. if you buy @1.00 and it drops just another 10c, it's a 10% drop!...

                        Can be very pengsan for those who play the averaging down game... Smiley


wanglausern      ( Date: 30-Aug-2012 02:09) Posted:



Sure can buy NOL. Don't you know that NOL has the backing of the nation's most powerful woman?

At this price close your eyes and buy as much as you can afford and you'll be rewarded in 1 to 2 years time.

tonylim      ( Date: 29-Aug-2012 16:49) Posted:

Most of the time losed money... how can buy this type of stoc


 
 
xing78
    30-Aug-2012 08:38  
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NOL is going down just like Chartered... my guess will be 50c to 60c before any intervention in the form of takeover and privatizing it.
 
 
tedsokny
    30-Aug-2012 08:28  
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WANGLAUSERN, i not orite, typo can or not, i gila can or not...my singlish can or not...pls buy all nol u want...no one stop u hahahahahahaSmiley
 
 
wesely2k
    30-Aug-2012 08:24  
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阿 公 老 了 还 是 要 死 的 , 只 是 不 知 道 几 时 死 。 。 。 。 。 出 来 玩 , 总 要 还 !
 
 
wanglausern
    30-Aug-2012 02:12  
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SGX ever trade at 47 meh? Are you alright or not?

tedsokny      ( Date: 29-Aug-2012 17:13) Posted:



thats the problem...i email my ex boss early last mth warn him on wilmar...u know when he told me he bought them...he can tell me high risk somemore...1 more to come will be sgx...once earnings down all will down...thier thinking is their high is 47...so now $3+ very cheap but they nvr care mrkt sentiment poor, global econ crisis otw...

 
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i knew of few guys tat only trade on those counters they lost $$$ before, this i really dont understand.

one of them died hard fan of cosco and another one is with Wilmar.   both this counters were once glamour counters like NOL.

however when they lost big time in both they keep TAing n go in again n cut lost n TAing again n go in again n.....wow i see liao i heart pain.

their argument is tat they wont move on since they know so much abt this counter they wont want to waste time on others....sigh they said " they know this counter" !!!!

 

 

 
wanglausern
    30-Aug-2012 02:09  
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Sure can buy NOL. Don't you know that NOL has the backing of the nation's most powerful woman?

At this price close your eyes and buy as much as you can afford and you'll be rewarded in 1 to 2 years time.

tonylim      ( Date: 29-Aug-2012 16:49) Posted:

Most of the time losed money... how can buy this type of stock

tedsokny      ( Date: 29-Aug-2012 16:28) Posted:

sori to those vested die hard fans...i really hope this one free fall....


 
 
tedsokny
    29-Aug-2012 17:13  
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thats the problem...i email my ex boss early last mth warn him on wilmar...u know when he told me he bought them...he can tell me high risk somemore...1 more to come will be sgx...once earnings down all will down...thier thinking is their high is 47...so now $3+ very cheap but they nvr care mrkt sentiment poor, global econ crisis otw...

 
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i knew of few guys tat only trade on those counters they lost $$$ before, this i really dont understand.

one of them died hard fan of cosco and another one is with Wilmar.   both this counters were once glamour counters like NOL.

however when they lost big time in both they keep TAing n go in again n cut lost n TAing again n go in again n.....wow i see liao i heart pain.

their argument is tat they wont move on since they know so much abt this counter they wont want to waste time on others....sigh they said " they know this counter" !!!!

 
 
 
iPunter
    29-Aug-2012 17:13  
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This is due to being " mm kam guan " , especially whose who have spent all their time analysing the stock/s...  Smiley


rutheone1905      ( Date: 29-Aug-2012 17:07) Posted:



i knew of few guys tat only trade on those counters they lost $$$ before, this i really dont understand.

one of them died hard fan of cosco and another one is with Wilmar.   both this counters were once glamour counters like NOL.

however when they lost big time in both they keep TAing n go in again n cut lost n TAing again n go in again n.....wow i see liao i heart pain.

their argument is tat they wont move on since they know so much abt this counter they wont want to waste time on others....sigh they said " they know this counter" !!!!

 

 
 
iPunter
    29-Aug-2012 17:09  
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As long as one does not do averaging down, one will only lose one's initial investment at most...

    But humans being humans, will never admit loss, thus they will keep on buying more and more.

          This is due largely to human ego nature and value system (ie. lower means 'chea')...

              Certainly many woud have been buying all the way down from 4.00 + to

                  1.00+ presently, and are still buying!... How not to be KO?... lol... Smiley


tonylim      ( Date: 29-Aug-2012 16:49) Posted:

Most of the time losed money... how can buy this type of stock

tedsokny      ( Date: 29-Aug-2012 16:28) Posted:

sori to those vested die hard fans...i really hope this one free fall....


 
 
rutheone1905
    29-Aug-2012 17:07  
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i knew of few guys tat only trade on those counters they lost $$$ before, this i really dont understand.

one of them died hard fan of cosco and another one is with Wilmar.   both this counters were once glamour counters like NOL.

however when they lost big time in both they keep TAing n go in again n cut lost n TAing again n go in again n.....wow i see liao i heart pain.

their argument is tat they wont move on since they know so much abt this counter they wont want to waste time on others....sigh they said " they know this counter" !!!!

 
 
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