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superoldfart
    10-Aug-2012 17:43  
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Uncle waiting waiting see how Far East Hospt Trust IPO n Berjaya Sports Toto IPO affect volume n sentiment.  SGX priceaction looks steady....many  uncle n auntie  starting interested  buy SGX, but still hesitant to buy sial....I olledy buy 5 lot for my grandson....I tell him  gangan safe at this price, also got one siaobeh inside SGX called Magnus Prime, like " Optimus Prime" in his favorite movie " Transformer" --this one sometimes do " Buyserker" , sometimes save earth one......

Uncle wonder if we have a better market, will SGX ever go back to its high of $17.90 before subprime crisis sial.......
 
 
wanglausern
    10-Aug-2012 17:23  
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Resistance at 6.82 break liao and it's brewing with improved daily turnover.

Above 7 bucks is around the corner.

TradeChancellor      ( Date: 06-Aug-2012 01:58) Posted:

looks like a mini up trend mirroring STI but got resistance at around $6.80 - $6.82... in this climate, good to quick-in quick-out

 
 
superoldfart
    06-Aug-2012 03:58  
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Published August 04, 2012
Large listings boost SGX's turnover in July
But outlook for the rest of 2012 remains uncertain, say analysts
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Among the big IPOs last month was the dual-listing of IHH Healthcare, owner of Mount Elizabeth Novena Hospital, in Malaysia and Singapore - PHOTO: BLOOMBERG
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LARGE initial public offerings (IPOs) gave the market a much-needed jolt of energy in July, raising securities turnover at Singapore Exchange (SGX) after a dismal June, according to the latest market data.

But analysts warn that the outlook for the rest of 2012 remains uncertain as global uncertainties continue to chill markets around the world.

The daily average value of securities traded on SGX in the 22 trading days of last month rose 19 per cent from June to $1.2 billion, according to data by the exchange. Year on year, securities' daily average value was nevertheless down 14 per cent.

Average daily trading volume was up 33 per cent month on month to 1.6 billion shares, which was a 30 per cent year-on-year increase.

July turnover velocity, a closely watched indicator of liquidity by SGX that adjusts trading value for market capitalisation, improved from June's 40 per cent to 46 per cent, but continued to lag the 49 per cent velocity from a year earlier.

Phillip Research analyst Ken Ang attributed the spike in July to large listings, such as IHH Healthcare's US$2 billion dual-listing in Malaysia and Singapore. " I believe it's largely due to the new big IPOs that we have seen in July that trading activity increased and therefore led to the increase in securities (daily average value)," Mr Ang said. But he was not confident that the market will continue to enjoy an IPO boost.

" In terms of IPOs, these are dependent on market conditions, and companies want to list at an ideal time whereby there's high interest from the market," Mr Ang said. " Right now, the situation is still a little shaky. I think it may be unlikely for us to see numerous big IPOs in the coming months."

The overall trading environment is also weak with macroeconomic concerns leading the headlines. " Moving forward, the outlook is rather uncertain due to the lack of catalyst given that the macroeconomic environment is still relatively uncertain," Mr Ang said.

" Many of the initiatives that SGX has been introducing will require more time for it to increase SDAV. . . I'm of the view that eventually SDAV will improve, but it may need more time. With most global exchanges similarly experiencing a drop in trading activities, an improvement in the global economy may be required for SDAV to improve."

The derivatives market continued to show year-on-year improvement, although the monthly comparison suggested a slight slowdown.

Average daily trading volume of derivatives on SGX was 270,798 contracts in July, up 7 per cent year on year but down 14 per cent against June. Although securities revenues still surpass derivatives business for SGX, that segment has been slowing gaining share for the bourse.

" We expect derivatives to continue its growth," Mr Ang said. " Increasingly, SGX is growing its presence, and also is introducing a wide variety of products which are gaining traction in the market.

" For example, if you look at the numbers, there's been quite a bit of growth for derivatives over the last few quarters. There are areas where SGX is growing relatively strong at, like OTC iron ore swaps."
 

 
wanglausern
    06-Aug-2012 03:17  
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With all the good news SGX shud open in 6 hrs' time with a big bang!

SGX cheong argh!

superoldfart      ( Date: 06-Aug-2012 01:18) Posted:

SGX july market stats not bad. If got a few IPOs every month(this month got some coming), volume pickup might sustain at a higher level liao.

 
 
TradeChancellor
    06-Aug-2012 01:58  
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looks like a mini up trend mirroring STI but got resistance at around $6.80 - $6.82... in this climate, good to quick-in quick-out
 
 
AK_Francis
    06-Aug-2012 01:51  
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So tomorrow buy ah?
 

 
superoldfart
    06-Aug-2012 01:18  
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SGX july market stats not bad. If got a few IPOs every month(this month got some coming), volume pickup might sustain at a higher level liao.
 
 
superoldfart
    01-Aug-2012 23:50  
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Uncle is vested so maybe biased, but share look quite resilient. Go down but come back up....now we wait for sgx monthly stats next week. See how price reacts. Hear more IPOs coming, M'sia want to list Berjaya Sports Toto here sial under biz trust like Hutchison Port sial.....if market supported here, think 7.50 easily achievable
 
 
superoldfart
    01-Aug-2012 23:44  
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MAYBANK KIM ENG results review for SGX     30July 2012

Analyst--James Koh

In line with expectations. FY6/12 reported net profit came in at $292. Underlying net profit of $304m was down only 3% yoy, which we believe reflects a commendable set of results given the challenging market conditions. Management proposed an unchanged final dividend of SGD 15 cents/ share (full year unchanged at SGD 27 cent/ share), which represents a 99% payout.

Derivatives revenue held up performance.
SDAV fell from %1.6b to $1.3b for the year, which was a familiar story for most exchanges around the world. As a result, securities revenue declined 16% yoy. Results were again held up by derivatives revenue, which were up 18% yoy. This segment posted another record quarter and has now shown steady growth over the past 12 quarters. Derivatives now account for 26% of total group revenue vs Securities which contribute 38%.

Good cost control was another factor.
Operating expenses were kept under control, declining 1% in line with the revenue decline. Between FY10-FY12, there were significant investments in new systems, which we believe has come to the end of a cycle. Importantly, we believe the lower capex going forward ($30-$35m per annum guidance) will be conducive for generous dividend payouts.

Partnerships may be a better avenue than M& As.

Going forward, we expect management to continue pursing organic initiatives as well as partnerships with other exchanges to grow. SGX recently signed a memorandum of understanding with the London Stock Exchange (LSE) to enable cross-trading of their most actively traded stocks. Management believes this platform, will make both exchanges more attractive for companies seeking a listing.



SDAV at cyclical lows, maintain BUY.
We believe SDAV is currently at cyclical lows. An uptick in trading volumes, combined with a growing derivatives business will bring SGX earnings to greater heights. With a cashed-up balance sheet, we believe sustainable dividend yield will remain healthy at around 4-5% at current price. Maintain BUY with a target price of SGD7.50 pegged at 23x FY6/13F PER. Singapore Exchange – Summary Earnings Table


FYE Jun (SGD m)


2011


2012


2013F


2014F


2015F


Revenue


660.7


647.9


692.9


726.2


757.4


EBITDA


411.1


404.4


442.7


467.3


490.3


Recurring Net Profit


312.9


302.5


331.7


348.9


364.7


Recurring EPS (SGD cts)


27.5


27.2


31.0


32.5


34.0


DPS (SGD cts)


27.0


27.0


28.8


30.3


31.6


PER (x)


24.1


24.4


21.5


20.4


19.5


EV/EBITDA (x)


15.6


15.9


14.5


13.7


13.0


Div Yield (%)


4.1


4.1


4.3


4.6


4.8


P/BV (x)


8.7


8.5


8.3


8.1


7.9


ROE (%)


35.8


35.0


38.7


39.6


40.2


ROA (%)


15.5


16.9


18.7


19.0


19.3


Consensus Net Profit


332.7


379.3


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wanglausern
    01-Aug-2012 13:42  
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Yesterday turnover hit a decent level of $1.6b plus.

niuyear      ( Date: 01-Aug-2012 12:32) Posted:



Kim Engn target - $7.50. 

I like 7.50.

 

 

 
niuyear
    01-Aug-2012 12:32  
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Kim Engn target - $7.50. 

I like 7.50.

 
 
 
sgnewbie
    30-Jul-2012 13:27  
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sgnewbie
    30-Jul-2012 09:26  
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ozones
    29-Jul-2012 22:22  
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Agreed.   BB wont hold on to losing counters becos they dont know how long they will need to hold.   Each transaction either win or lose and move on.   I used to work in a local bank's investment branch, seem to me every day they will consolidate that day performance so to me they seem to be working on a intraday kind of activities.
 
 
rutheone1905
    29-Jul-2012 22:17  
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hm...i dont agreed with these points:

1)   BBs  loaded in 100 lots on Stock A priced at $1.50 because the previous day candlesticks and parameter showing some good sign to load in.  Market news suddenly turn bad and force them to hold those at $1.50 as the price of Stock A dropped to $1.40. They have holding power and buying purchase to get more and wait till it goes back to the price at $1.50 which was the original buying signal.

BB dont n never bet $150,000 based on candlesticks showing good sign to load in, wont buy more when price down n definitely wont hold till it goes up.   this is the practice of retail investors.

3)  Many panic individual investors decided to offload Stock A due to unforseen circumstances that cause the stock to plunge  and benefit the BBs more.

Panics investors wont sell if price plunge, they will hold n become coy long term investors.   the selling part is done by shorties.the scenerio is shorties keep shorting n the buying part is done by investors keep averaging down, also handful of buyers coming in to buy thinking the price is " cheap"  

star-trader      ( Date: 29-Jul-2012 21:42) Posted:



I very much agreed with you on this..I never believe those courses..and I never go for a single one of them even if it is free preview!
All in all, you got to learn and experience yourself the market influence and the trading tools you need to understand so you will have the feel of it..

And I do agreed some of the technical analysis still form part of your trading strategy, because regardless of what there are something about it that will hint you on your next move on how you should trade a stock..

Though it cannot be 100% full proof , why? Let me give you the scenario below:
1) BBs  loaded in 100 lots on Stock A priced at $1.50 because the previous day candlesticks and parameter showing some good sign to load in.  Market news suddenly turn bad and force them to hold those at $1.50 as the price of Stock A dropped to $1.40. They have holding power and buying purchase to get more and wait till it goes back to the price at $1.50 which was the original buying signal.
2) Bad news on Stock A force sellers to turn back and do selling instead.
3) Many panic individual investors decided to offload Stock A due to unforseen circumstances that cause the stock to plunge  and benefit the BBs more.

My personal view and opinion only.

Star-Trader
http://star-trader.blogspot.sg

 

 

superoldfart      ( Date: 27-Jul-2012 16:23) Posted:



But some people able to HUAT from trading and thats good for them and they claim they are multi millions in the making by trading - marvellios! :)

Uncle see many guru say can teach u trading/investment, become millionaire, all fake one, usually go jail or kenah sue by students after a while.

If u good at trading, why u need to make money from teaching? And charge so high also. Charge 3-5K for 3 days seminar? Rubbish! They  think  their words r physical gold isit? All just saliva only!!!

And everyone of them is actually a lousy trader/investor.

I see one guru, lose all the money in trading, after go jail, come out, wait a few years, then start teaching again. Humorous, sial.

His candlestick  become jailbar arhh?

The best teacher, the real teacher,  never charge u for advice one.

Cos if he is good in trading/investment, he don't need n he don't want your money.


 

 
iPunter
    29-Jul-2012 21:59  
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Like I said before, the most lucrative way to make money in stocks is not by trading,

    but by teaching people to play stocks. It is very very difficult to make money in stocks.

        Teaching is the best and easiest way to make money. By teaching, one will then have

                    a stable and reliable means of financing one's bets in the stock market...

                          Because in stocks, all is betting... (investing is also betting on the outcome)... Smiley


star-trader      ( Date: 29-Jul-2012 21:42) Posted:



I very much agreed with you on this..I never believe those courses..and I never go for a single one of them even if it is free preview!
All in all, you got to learn and experience yourself the market influence and the trading tools you need to understand so you will have the feel of it..

And I do agreed some of the technical analysis still form part of your trading strategy, because regardless of what there are something about it that will hint you on your next move on how you should trade a stock..

Though it cannot be 100% full proof , why? Let me give you the scenario below:
1) BBs  loaded in 100 lots on Stock A priced at $1.50 because the previous day candlesticks and parameter showing some good sign to load in.  Market news suddenly turn bad and force them to hold those at $1.50 as the price of Stock A dropped to $1.40. They have holding power and buying purchase to get more and wait till it goes back to the price at $1.50 which was the original buying signal.
2) Bad news on Stock A force sellers to turn back and do selling instead.
3) Many panic individual investors decided to offload Stock A due to unforseen circumstances that cause the stock to plunge  and benefit the BBs more.

My personal view and opinion only.

Star-Trader
http://star-trader.blogspot.sg

 

 

superoldfart      ( Date: 27-Jul-2012 16:23) Posted:



But some people able to HUAT from trading and thats good for them and they claim they are multi millions in the making by trading - marvellios! :)

Uncle see many guru say can teach u trading/investment, become millionaire, all fake one, usually go jail or kenah sue by students after a while.

If u good at trading, why u need to make money from teaching? And charge so high also. Charge 3-5K for 3 days seminar? Rubbish! They  think  their words r physical gold isit? All just saliva only!!!

And everyone of them is actually a lousy trader/investor.

I see one guru, lose all the money in trading, after go jail, come out, wait a few years, then start teaching again. Humorous, sial.

His candlestick  become jailbar arhh?

The best teacher, the real teacher,  never charge u for advice one.

Cos if he is good in trading/investment, he don't need n he don't want your money.


 
 
star-trader
    29-Jul-2012 21:42  
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I very much agreed with you on this..I never believe those courses..and I never go for a single one of them even if it is free preview!
All in all, you got to learn and experience yourself the market influence and the trading tools you need to understand so you will have the feel of it..

And I do agreed some of the technical analysis still form part of your trading strategy, because regardless of what there are something about it that will hint you on your next move on how you should trade a stock..

Though it cannot be 100% full proof , why? Let me give you the scenario below:
1) BBs  loaded in 100 lots on Stock A priced at $1.50 because the previous day candlesticks and parameter showing some good sign to load in.  Market news suddenly turn bad and force them to hold those at $1.50 as the price of Stock A dropped to $1.40. They have holding power and buying purchase to get more and wait till it goes back to the price at $1.50 which was the original buying signal.
2) Bad news on Stock A force sellers to turn back and do selling instead.
3) Many panic individual investors decided to offload Stock A due to unforseen circumstances that cause the stock to plunge  and benefit the BBs more.

My personal view and opinion only.

Star-Trader
http://star-trader.blogspot.sg

 

 

superoldfart      ( Date: 27-Jul-2012 16:23) Posted:



But some people able to HUAT from trading and thats good for them and they claim they are multi millions in the making by trading - marvellios! :)

Uncle see many guru say can teach u trading/investment, become millionaire, all fake one, usually go jail or kenah sue by students after a while.

If u good at trading, why u need to make money from teaching? And charge so high also. Charge 3-5K for 3 days seminar? Rubbish! They  think  their words r physical gold isit? All just saliva only!!!

And everyone of them is actually a lousy trader/investor.

I see one guru, lose all the money in trading, after go jail, come out, wait a few years, then start teaching again. Humorous, sial.

His candlestick  become jailbar arhh?

The best teacher, the real teacher,  never charge u for advice one.

Cos if he is good in trading/investment, he don't need n he don't want your money.

 
 
superoldfart
    28-Jul-2012 01:53  
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On results affecting shareprice, uncle guess is not much. Those ppl buy SGX recently all know volume been bad n result will be bad/mediocre. Who dunno this? Only a ignorant person dunno this. In fact, they hold off buying more until result over.
They all buy cos gamble market will get better from here. Remember last time when market hot SGX go to $18. Most reporters n analysts always wrong on stock n market calls. My favorite is one guy in ST. Everytime he become very bearish I alert sial, becos usually is time to buy. This guy is classic example of talk nonsense, can never make money in market one. When time to buy, he say bad don't buy or sell, he give all the reason n highlight somemore. When time to sell, he say good, u must buy cos once in lifetime opportunity. Like a comedian sial.
 
 
superoldfart
    28-Jul-2012 01:32  
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Results no surprises, mostly as expected, IMO a little bit better than I thought. Most ppl were expecting bad-to-mediocre results n this is at the high end of that range. Dividend was maintained, which is good. From here on, what is impt is how markets n volume trade from this point onwards-- I reiterate my guess markets will improve volumewise and in nos. of IPOs from here onwards. Also many reporters missed the big growth in OTC clearing that is just starting. If this continues, it will start to affect the earnings significantly. The revival of interest in mergers n tie-ups is also something to take note, cos it was rumors of other bourses merging with SGX that drove it to $18 in 2007.
 
 
warrenbegger
    27-Jul-2012 22:40  
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I agreed with u.

I got very good proven track record over 10 years. I can even teach like those guru out there $3000-$7000 a course.

Talk so much no use, we want to see track and real records. REAL $$$ profit from REAL market. Not bullshiit.

But even if someone pay $10000 for me to teach them, i still won't do it. Cause i alone free and easy can earn more than 100k, why make my life so hard?

superoldfart      ( Date: 27-Jul-2012 16:23) Posted:



But some people able to HUAT from trading and thats good for them and they claim they are multi millions in the making by trading - marvellios! :)

Uncle see many guru say can teach u trading/investment, become millionaire, all fake one, usually go jail or kenah sue by students after a while.

If u good at trading, why u need to make money from teaching? And charge so high also. Charge 3-5K for 3 days seminar? Rubbish! They  think  their words r physical gold isit? All just saliva only!!!

And everyone of them is actually a lousy trader/investor.

I see one guru, lose all the money in trading, after go jail, come out, wait a few years, then start teaching again. Humorous, sial.

His candlestick  become jailbar arhh?

The best teacher, the real teacher,  never charge u for advice one.

Cos if he is good in trading/investment, he don't need n he don't want your money.

 
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