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EZ3626
    26-Oct-2013 09:07  
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Bro, you said who are those " people" ... You can read all about it in Nextinsight by Moneywater and others. I always take it with a pinch of salts. I made mistakes also by saying it can't be when there are people who sing another tune. Just do your diligence ... ultimately market will have the final say. However, we must do our homwwork. 

Can you name some achievement that Olam has and is to come. The date is drawing very near ... you maybe right too. How certain is your take ... maybe you like to share so we can be enriched. Cheers 


EZ3626      ( Date: 26-Oct-2013 01:12) Posted:

Nextinsight " Olam is still on the downtrend. The market is expecting Olam to anounce an equity issue (either share or rights placement)at a significant discount to the current price." by Moneywater ... could be Moneyplant's bro. You can ask him, Money water.

Bro, everyone entitles to make their comments, but it up to you to make the judgment call .... isn't it. Take it ez 

Did you dump a lot of money into this stock ? Some people wrote, " My money I decide. Your money you decide." called himself GorgeousOng

Personally I think it can happen, what is their financial report ? Can they turn it around ? Any significant earnings so far ? A lot of debts maybe, ... if not for Temasek already " Wanton noodle" still can offer such good dividends

天 下 没 有 免 费 的 午 餐

 


 
 
Rosesyrup
    26-Oct-2013 01:34  
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This is a public forum, you dare to make claims you  got to be  ready  for challenges. Can't accept alternative views, then I am not sure why you are even here?

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 26-Oct-2013 01:30) Posted:



Ok, fair enough. So you based your opinion on Muddy Water's call. Don't get me wrong, we  have no interest  in where your money goes. 
Nevertheless it is basic responsibility  that you support your  claims with basis so that we can assess the strength  of  a particular argument. Your money is your money, ours is still ours.


True I did invest some in Olam but not a huge portion of my portfolio. I am only interested to assure everyone here  is sharing " right" information not some fairy tales.   

So yep take it easy. So long as you have basis for your claims, we welcome your view. No need to get so protective when we try to get a more complete picture.

 

EZ3626      ( Date: 26-Oct-2013 01:12) Posted:

Nextinsight " Olam is still on the downtrend. The market is expecting Olam to anounce an equity issue (either share or rights placement)at a significant discount to the current price." by Moneywater ... could be Moneyplant's bro. You can ask him, Money water.

Bro, everyone entitles to make their comments, but it up to you to make the judgment call .... isn't it. Take it ez 

Did you dump a lot of money into this stock ? Some people wrote, " My money I decide. Your money you decide." called himself GorgeousOng

Personally I think it can happen, what is their financial report ? Can they turn it around ? Any significant earnings so far ? A lot of debts maybe, ... if not for Temasek already " Wanton noodle" still can offer such good dividends

天 下 没 有 免 费 的 午 餐

 



 
 
Rosesyrup
    26-Oct-2013 01:30  
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Ok, fair enough. So you based your opinion on Muddy Water's call. Don't get me wrong, we  have no interest  in where your money goes. 
Nevertheless it is basic responsibility  that you support your  claims with basis so that we can assess the strength  of  a particular argument. Your money is your money, ours is still ours.


True I did invest some in Olam but not a huge portion of my portfolio. I am only interested to assure everyone here  is sharing " right" information not some fairy tales.   

So yep take it easy. So long as you have basis for your claims, we welcome your view. No need to get so protective when we try to get a more complete picture.

 

EZ3626      ( Date: 26-Oct-2013 01:12) Posted:

Nextinsight " Olam is still on the downtrend. The market is expecting Olam to anounce an equity issue (either share or rights placement)at a significant discount to the current price." by Moneywater ... could be Moneyplant's bro. You can ask him, Money water.

Bro, everyone entitles to make their comments, but it up to you to make the judgment call .... isn't it. Take it ez 

Did you dump a lot of money into this stock ? Some people wrote, " My money I decide. Your money you decide." called himself GorgeousOng

Personally I think it can happen, what is their financial report ? Can they turn it around ? Any significant earnings so far ? A lot of debts maybe, ... if not for Temasek already " Wanton noodle" still can offer such good dividends

天 下 没 有 免 费 的 午 餐

 


 

 
EZ3626
    26-Oct-2013 01:12  
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Nextinsight " Olam is still on the downtrend. The market is expecting Olam to anounce an equity issue (either share or rights placement)at a significant discount to the current price." by Moneywater ... could be Moneyplant's bro. You can ask him, Money water.

Bro, everyone entitles to make their comments, but it up to you to make the judgment call .... isn't it. Take it ez 

Did you dump a lot of money into this stock ? Some people wrote, " My money I decide. Your money you decide." called himself GorgeousOng

Personally I think it can happen, what is their financial report ? Can they turn it around ? Any significant earnings so far ? A lot of debts maybe, ... if not for Temasek already " Wanton noodle" still can offer such good dividends

天 下 没 有 免 费 的 午 餐

 

 
 
Rosesyrup
    25-Oct-2013 19:59  
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Why don't you tell us who are those " PEOPLE" saying OLAM  is going to raise cash, and we will  exercise our own judgment from thereon? 

Failure to identify those " People" and we shall take it as you making up stories.



EZ3626      ( Date: 25-Oct-2013 17:47) Posted:

There are people saying that they are likely to raise cash .... believe or not is up to you. Put a bit of honey and you will be trapped to pay more $$$ 

EZ3626      ( Date: 22-Oct-2013 23:56) Posted:



Take it that Olam did not go after MW and I am a bit skeptical about the generous dividend at $0.04. Those that hold through may end up in big shit when they announce any fund raising exercise. I hope I am wrong but if the BB is turning around why need to drastically overhaul the management team. Don't be surprise Mr Verghese may be out. This few days movement the financial institutions are not buying in as compared to other counters. This is just my thoughts .... take care

Bear in mind ED is on the 5 November .... 


 
 
EZ3626
    25-Oct-2013 17:47  
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There are people saying that they are likely to raise cash .... believe or not is up to you. Put a bit of honey and you will be trapped to pay more $$$ 

EZ3626      ( Date: 22-Oct-2013 23:56) Posted:



Take it that Olam did not go after MW and I am a bit skeptical about the generous dividend at $0.04. Those that hold through may end up in big shit when they announce any fund raising exercise. I hope I am wrong but if the BB is turning around why need to drastically overhaul the management team. Don't be surprise Mr Verghese may be out. This few days movement the financial institutions are not buying in as compared to other counters. This is just my thoughts .... take care

Bear in mind ED is on the 5 November .... 

 

 
daffytlh
    25-Oct-2013 15:20  
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got holding. dunno shld continue to hold or not. see it dip a bit every day, my profit drop everyday.shld i wait till dividend. 
 
 
Rosesyrup
    23-Oct-2013 11:17  
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But even if you are not good at 30 years old, doesn't mean that you will commit fraud.

EZ3626      ( Date: 23-Oct-2013 08:42) Posted:

If you are good at 90 yrs old the world still want you ....

 
 
Octavia
    23-Oct-2013 09:32  
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CLSA noted that from a visit to Olam?s site at Nigeria and Gabon and that they were pleased with execution and asset management in the two regions. The visit eased CS? concerns on Olam?s on the ground execution, and while downstream assets in Nigeria will likely start contributing in the near term, the Nigerian rice farms as well the bulk of Gabon?s assets will take 3-4 years to gestate. Meanwhile, poor trading environment and earnings drag will weigh on earnings. Key upside risk will come from the fertilizer project reaching financial closure. The house maintains Sell with TP: $1.57
 
 
EZ3626
    23-Oct-2013 08:42  
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If you are good at 90 yrs old the world still want you ....
 

 
Rosesyrup
    23-Oct-2013 00:35  
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Got show watch already.

EZ3626      ( Date: 23-Oct-2013 00:26) Posted:



Alright overhaul in stages .... so as not too drastic but definitely not about the age. Anyway just saying ... ultimately the market decide which way it should go. 

5 Nov is near ..... 

 
 
EZ3626
    23-Oct-2013 00:26  
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Alright overhaul in stages .... so as not too drastic but definitely not about the age. Anyway just saying ... ultimately the market decide which way it should go. 

5 Nov is near ..... 
 
 
Rosesyrup
    23-Oct-2013 00:07  
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Get the differences right:

Directors are just trustee

Management = executive

They are changing directors only, where got overhaul management team? You mean that supervisor of 1/2 acre of land in Kovur retired ah? Oh that one he reach 70 years old already what. (PS don't blame for being snide here, I had had enough of people who purposely use jargon like yours to confuse investor with no business knowledge).

  Anyway, you mean 2 directors step down is overhaul? Seems like overhaul is another deliberate choice of strong word so as to aggregate the level of risk.

Just saying. 

 

EZ3626      ( Date: 22-Oct-2013 23:56) Posted:



Take it that Olam did not go after MW and I am a bit skeptical about the generous dividend at $0.04. Those that hold through may end up in big shit when they announce any fund raising exercise. I hope I am wrong but if the BB is turning around why need to drastically overhaul the management team. Don't be surprise Mr Verghese may be out. This few days movement the financial institutions are not buying in as compared to other counters. This is just my thoughts .... take care

Bear in mind ED is on the 5 November .... 

 
 
EZ3626
    22-Oct-2013 23:56  
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Take it that Olam did not go after MW and I am a bit skeptical about the generous dividend at $0.04. Those that hold through may end up in big shit when they announce any fund raising exercise. I hope I am wrong but if the BB is turning around why need to drastically overhaul the management team. Don't be surprise Mr Verghese may be out. This few days movement the financial institutions are not buying in as compared to other counters. This is just my thoughts .... take care

Bear in mind ED is on the 5 November .... 
 
 
Rosesyrup
    22-Oct-2013 23:47  
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Muddy Water sure can sprout nonsense,  which company in rapid expansion don't incur high cash burn rate?

MW also start off the saga with a confirm + chop guarantee that it detected accounting irregularities in Olam financial statement. Later, MW changed it claim to: " Olam is at best incompetent in its accounting."  

WOW,  360 degree change in claim. Accounting irregularities  very different from incompetent leh. Never check properly then  any  how make claim like  sure correct already. Now who is the incompetent ones?

 

BTW, MW failed horribly in its  latest coup against American Tower. Instead of falling, AT share price hike after MW announced its shorting position. Now almost every banks and houses raise or reaffirm their TP in AT.

 

MW can go home sleep liao. No more power on market. Oh ya, who was the one who said that OLAM's last  bond issue is insufficient and  will fail within 1 year? What is the date now ah?

EZ3626      ( Date: 22-Oct-2013 23:16) Posted:

The whole saga by Muddywater is the burn rate is too high and they have not shore up the cash. Guess the they will have another round of fund raising. If it really happen not too good ...

 

 
EZ3626
    22-Oct-2013 23:16  
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The whole saga by Muddywater is the burn rate is too high and they have not shore up the cash. Guess the they will have another round of fund raising. If it really happen not too good ...
 
 
beginners
    22-Oct-2013 18:22  
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Is it? Last year just issued, this year raise $ again? They really need $$? Bro where you got the news?

EZ3626      ( Date: 22-Oct-2013 17:52) Posted:

Heard from someone that Olam is likely to have right issue in November. Anybody like to comment on this. Thks

 
 
EZ3626
    22-Oct-2013 17:52  
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Heard from someone that Olam is likely to have right issue in November. Anybody like to comment on this. Thks
 
 
Tempest
    22-Oct-2013 13:03  
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Better buy some before you miss the bull. Will reach 1.7 in no time!
 
 
myfcoach
    22-Oct-2013 12:47  
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thanks for the heads up...bought last week...like i mentioned ...commodities prices are rebounding from 3-year low....

cheers,

Jason at http://myfcoach.com/ and http://millionaire-investors.blogspot.sg/

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 19-Oct-2013 02:48) Posted:

Start accumulating Olam. Almost one year anniversary for MW's defeat. And 90 days more for Olam to be out of BB's black list.

 
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