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boyikao3
    13-Nov-2009 15:28  
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So why are you still skeptical about its business when it can make 4600% profit in 8 years? Why you dun just buy ore and keep for another 8 years? Just curious because I dunno whether I should cash in on my REC shares as well???Smiley

grandmaster89      ( Date: 13-Nov-2009 14:59) Posted:



I was vested in this counter earlier this year at 41ct. After the oriental century scandal, I saw the share price plunge to a day low of 25.5 ct (prior that I suffered weeks of downward plunge to 31ct). After the scandal, the price recovered very strongly to the 40ct level within a couple of weeks.

Luckily during June, there was a sharp run up to the 60-70ct range. I exited at 65ct in June as I was apprehensive of their balance sheets and the oriental century scandal made me fearful of their chinese subsidiaries.

Whoever bought this stock at IPO in 2002 would have have made 4600% profit today. LOL

 
 
grandmaster89
    13-Nov-2009 14:59  
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I was vested in this counter earlier this year at 41ct. After the oriental century scandal, I saw the share price plunge to a day low of 25.5 ct (prior that I suffered weeks of downward plunge to 31ct). After the scandal, the price recovered very strongly to the 40ct level within a couple of weeks.

Luckily during June, there was a sharp run up to the 60-70ct range. I exited at 65ct in June as I was apprehensive of their balance sheets and the oriental century scandal made me fearful of their chinese subsidiaries.

Whoever bought this stock at IPO in 2002 would have have made 4600% profit today. LOL
 
 
iPunter
    13-Nov-2009 14:54  
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If I get in, I will be dumping @.39...

because it may go lower... Smiley
 

 
boyikao3
    13-Nov-2009 14:50  
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Ok lah. Then i follow you loh, wait for 40cts. .Smiley

iPunter      ( Date: 13-Nov-2009 14:01) Posted:



I am waiting to go in @.40...

Since I got out @.495, it has fallen to .42 now...

Saved quite a bit of real solid money... not paper...  hehehe...Smiley

 
 
iPunter
    13-Nov-2009 14:01  
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I am waiting to go in @.40...

Since I got out @.495, it has fallen to .42 now...

Saved quite a bit of real solid money... not paper...  hehehe...Smiley
 
 
jackjames
    13-Nov-2009 13:12  
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Count me in !

boyikao3      ( Date: 13-Nov-2009 12:44) Posted:



Judging from the technicals, this one looks like it should do a rebound soon into the 56-57 cts region despite the rumours.

Anyone buying?Smiley

 

 
boyikao3
    13-Nov-2009 12:44  
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Judging from the technicals, this one looks like it should do a rebound soon into the 56-57 cts region despite the rumours.

Anyone buying?Smiley
 
 
iPunter
    13-Nov-2009 09:23  
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Too much negative rumours surrounding this sector... 

Furthermore, weakening during a strong market sentiment suggests a floor of thin ice at the support... Smiley
 
 
risktaker
    13-Nov-2009 09:15  
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wow .... looks bad T.T so what speculate last year was true ? Run liao lucky didnt collect much Dump at a lost


boyikao3      ( Date: 12-Nov-2009 16:11) Posted:

"Raffles University - RU is self accredited to grant "Raffles University" degrees. Because RU is not a traditioal university with a physical campus, its degrees are "internationally" self accredited, ie, not confined to a specific country and can be considered akin to a "virtual" university."

I read this from the link below. Can someone explain this to me about REC? What the hell is a "virtual" university? Am I too traditional that such educational concepts I find alien or do you guys smell a rat? This is horrendouse news !Smiley



niuyear      ( Date: 12-Nov-2009 16:03) Posted:



If  CEO lies about its company during the audit trial etc, he/she could end up in jail .  Those working with this company such as its  CFO, or those who involved in the audit ,  better buck up and find way to defense themselves for the judge will not buy it if one claims that one is innocent .

It is therefore, be careful if one works as financial controllre or CFO or accounting related job in a companpy that one feels  is full of suspicious, do consider quit before one gets into big trouble.

 


 
 
boyikao3
    12-Nov-2009 16:11  
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"Raffles University - RU is self accredited to grant "Raffles University" degrees. Because RU is not a traditioal university with a physical campus, its degrees are "internationally" self accredited, ie, not confined to a specific country and can be considered akin to a "virtual" university."

I read this from the link below. Can someone explain this to me about REC? What the hell is a "virtual" university? Am I too traditional that such educational concepts I find alien or do you guys smell a rat? This is horrendouse news !Smiley



niuyear      ( Date: 12-Nov-2009 16:03) Posted:



If  CEO lies about its company during the audit trial etc, he/she could end up in jail .  Those working with this company such as its  CFO, or those who involved in the audit ,  better buck up and find way to defense themselves for the judge will not buy it if one claims that one is innocent .

It is therefore, be careful if one works as financial controllre or CFO or accounting related job in a companpy that one feels  is full of suspicious, do consider quit before one gets into big trouble.

 

 

 
niuyear
    12-Nov-2009 16:03  
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If  CEO lies about its company during the audit trial etc, he/she could end up in jail .  Those working with this company such as its  CFO, or those who involved in the audit ,  better buck up and find way to defense themselves for the judge will not buy it if one claims that one is innocent .

It is therefore, be careful if one works as financial controllre or CFO or accounting related job in a companpy that one feels  is full of suspicious, do consider quit before one gets into big trouble.

 
 
 
boyikao3
    12-Nov-2009 15:58  
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"Mr. Chew said Raffles's growth wouldn't be affected by its involvement with Oriental. Raffles sales in fiscal 2008 were S$190 million. "Our business model is very good, intact and our cash position is secure," Mr. Chew said."

Oh that is very interesting to hear. I wonder if this Mr Chew would be admitting his own children and director's children in his school to study his wonderful courses...??? Or these quality courses are only created for "other" parents ???
 
 
pharoah88
    12-Nov-2009 15:54  
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REC's Raffles University is SELF-ACCREDITED....

 

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Raffles Education Corp (REC), established in 1990, is the largest private vocational ..... Raffles University: The importance of REC's self-accreditation ...
www.scribd.com/doc/7123473/Raffles-Education-Corp-080429 - Cached
 
 
pharoah88
    12-Nov-2009 15:48  
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  • MARCH 12, 2009, 6:43 A.M. ET
  • Oriental Century CEO Claims to Have Inflated Numbers

    more in Asia »


    SINGAPORE -- China-based education firm Oriental Century Ltd. Thursday said its chief executive had inflated the company's sales and cash balances, prompting a suspension of its shares on the Singapore Exchange.

    In a filing to the exchange, Oriental Century said chief executive Wang Yuean tendered his resignation at a board meeting Tuesday. The board accepted the resignation Wednesday, and has appointed Chief Investment Officer Lei Hua as acting chief executive.

    The education services provider, which is listed in Singapore but operates mainly in China, said Mr. Wang had revealed that cash and cash equivalents of 234 million yuan ($34 million) ...

     


    SINGAPORE -- China-based education firm Oriental Century Ltd. Thursday said its chief executive had inflated the company's sales and cash balances, prompting a suspension of its shares on the Singapore Exchange.

    In a filing to the exchange, Oriental Century said chief executive Wang Yuean tendered his resignation at a board meeting Tuesday. The board accepted the resignation Wednesday, and has appointed Chief Investment Officer Lei Hua as acting chief executive.

    The education services provider, which is listed in Singapore but operates mainly in China, said Mr. Wang had revealed that cash and cash equivalents of 234 million yuan ($34 million) reported in its unaudited financial statement for the year to Dec. 31, 2008, had been "substantially inflated."

    It said its auditor KPMG had flagged doubts over its bank balance on Monday. KPMG couldn't immediately be reached for comment.

    "(Mr. Wang) alleged that he had made up fictitious accounting and related records to lead the directors, the (chief executive officer) and the auditors to believe that the cash were in existence," the company said.

    Oriental Century officials said they didn't know Mr. Wang's whereabouts, and he couldn't be reached for comment.

    Raffles Education Corp.'s Chief Executive Officer Chew Hua Seng said Mr. Wang was in China. Raffles Education is Oriental Century's biggest shareholder, with a 29.9% stake.

    Oriental Century said it asked for its shares to be suspended due to uncertainty over its financial position. On Monday, the company had requested a trading halt, a measure short of a suspension, after its shares fell 16%, leaving its market capitalization at around 26 million Singapore dollars ($17 million). The wider Straits Times Index fell only 3.7% that day.

    Oriental Century said the acting CEO as well as Chief Financial Officer Chan Yong Hock will travel "as soon as possible" to China, where the firm's principal operations are located, to investigate the matter further.

    Its core business is providing management services to educational institutions such as kindergartens and high schools. Mr. Wang, who founded Oriental Century, owns a 25.4% stake in the company.

    Following Oriental's share losses Monday, Raffles Education's stock fell 19% over the next two days, but was recently up almost 5% after the company moved to assuage concerns over its exposure to Oriental. Raffles Education said it has invested a total of S$30.2 million in Oriental Century since December 2006.

    "In the worst case where Oriental Century ceased to be a going concern, Raffles Education Corp. will need to write-off fully its investment," it said. "Should this happen, this would result in a write-off of S$34.6 million."

    Mr. Chew said Raffles's growth wouldn't be affected by its involvement with Oriental. Raffles sales in fiscal 2008 were S$190 million. "Our business model is very good, intact and our cash position is secure," Mr. Chew said.

    Separately, Singapore Exchange said it is "in communication" with Oriental Century.

    Oriental is one of the exchange's so-called S-shares, a company based in China but listed in Singapore. S-shares have underperformed the broader market in recent months, not least because some of these firms have run into corporate governance problems. Last week, another S-share, Sino-Environment Technology Group Ltd., asked for its stock to be suspended after disclosing that controlling shareholder Thumb (China) Holdings Group Ltd. was in default of certain financial obligations to hedge funds. The suspension of Sino-Environment's shares was lifted Thursday, and its shares promptly collapsed 73%.

    Write to P. R. Venkat at p.r.venkat@dowjones.com


     

     
     
     
    boyikao3
        12-Nov-2009 15:32  
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    Final Business degree exams in multiple choice. Heard before? Tat's what some REC students said when they transfer from Shanghai to campus here. English standard did not pass our sec 4 standards can study degrees in Business some more. I think the black hole is widening....Smiley
     

     
    iPunter
        12-Nov-2009 15:26  
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    If it does reach .42, the floor is like thin ice... Smiley
     
     
    pharoah88
        12-Nov-2009 15:24  
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    DARK AGES for CHINA PRIVATE EDUCATION:

    China Partners have POOR Governance and FRAUD RISKS are Extremely High....

    ORIENTAL CENTURY BLACK HOLE is NOT OVER YET.

    Raffles Education will Suffer....

     

    TODAY ONLINE 18 
    2009 WEEkend today  November 7th - 8th

    Shock as schools close

    Many fear losing money as private school group in Australia goes bankrupt

    SYDNEY

    studying in Australia were left shocked and

    angry on Friday after the collapse of four

    private colleges in Melbourne and Sydney.

    Students, many of them just weeks

    from graduating, turned up for class, only

    to find the doors locked and signs saying

    the colleges had gone out of business.

    The 2,70 0 students, mostly from

    India and South-East Asia, had paid up to

    US$18,300 ($25,500) to the China-owned

    Global Campus Management/Meridian

    Group which suddenly went into voluntary

    bankruptcy administration on Thursday.

    Thousands of shocked students gathered

    outside the locked colleges demanding

    answers as they feared losing their money

    without receiving any qualifications.

    The colleges, located at 13 campuses

    in Melbourne and Sydney, provide tuition

    in hospitality, design, English language,

    fashion and secondary education.

    State governments stepped in to offer

    places in government schools for students

    to sit their exams, but students feared they

    had been cheated and abandoned.

    Victorian Premier John Brumby said

    vocational students would be offered positions

    in other colleges. He said it was
    — Thousands of foreign students

    purely a commercial matter as the colleges

    closed when one of the owners withdrew

    financial support.

    It is the latest disaster in Australia’s

    troubled foreign education industry which

    has seen nine colleges suddenly close since

    May when the government started a crackdown

    on the privately run colleges.

    Investigations had revealed some of

    the colleges were simply means for foreign

    students to get residency visas for Australia

    and offered little proper education.

    Around 150,000 overseas students

    are enrolled in colleges, universities and

    schools in Australia making it an industry

    worth A$16 billion ($20 billion) annually.

    Tougher regulations of the private colleges

    are due to be brought in next year.

    Australia’s reputation was badly hurt

    earlier this year when Indian students protested,

    saying they had been victims of

    racist attacks.
    DPA

     
     
    Bintang
        12-Nov-2009 09:41  
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    Since the ADX at 31  is trending up ,  the downtrend would go stronger . RSI is at 29 which looks quite weak of the trend . Falling below 20 of RSI means free falling is on the way .
     
     
    chyesoon
        11-Nov-2009 17:04  
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    today due date for last week 10 million lots.  so there is selling pressure. i will get worry only if tommorow it does not go up. 
     
     
    risktaker
        11-Nov-2009 15:29  
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    i support :) why throw :P

    dionnazhao      ( Date: 11-Nov-2009 15:25) Posted:

    then u throw lor

     
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