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ethanetoh
    11-Jul-2013 19:43  
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No best opportunity to get vard at low price, world demand for oil will be record high nx year. Buy...
 
 
NoMoney
    11-Jul-2013 19:40  
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careful in shorting. normally price is either been short or pushed up before the news. and Brazil news also an old news just that now with full report

Mardi.tan      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 19:19) Posted:



let's short tomorrow!!

No div,,,sure down 

 
 
Mardi.tan
    11-Jul-2013 19:19  
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let's short tomorrow!!

No div,,,sure down 
 

 
JarolLo
    11-Jul-2013 19:14  
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Definable very bad. Two important to consider:
1). Whether the mgt has any plan of recovery. How the BB read it,

2) whether the recent downturn price had taken full effect of the actual figures. If yes, then it's safe, failure which to tomorrow will be down some more. Bear in mind these 2 days went up a bit, may not be good for tomorrow. Could be shortist building up strength.

Finally, take care

uncleschampy      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 18:48) Posted:



not really good at reading reports, but isnt this very bad ? Will tomorrow crash ?

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uncleschampy
    11-Jul-2013 18:48  
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not really good at reading reports, but isnt this very bad ? Will tomorrow crash ?

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Peter_Pan
    11-Jul-2013 18:25  
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I think weakholders almost dried up liao..shorting will be like playing with fire..because big hands are accumulating liao. Tomorrow i also not sure able to get lower or not...
 

 
SFGuyRuleZ
    11-Jul-2013 18:12  
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I think he already shorted yest at 0.83 that's why now panic and here to scare people. Sometimes, is too easy to tell who are those shortists here. In all the ship building and shipping logistics counters forums I read here, he only has negative views and comments for them and it comes as no surprise if he shorts this counter.. 

flyfox      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:57) Posted:

haha you so confident, maybe u should short to make money also

ynnek1267      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:56) Posted:

wah, so many supporters. it will only attract shortist interest to bring it down further.


 
 
InvestNotTrade
    11-Jul-2013 18:08  
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Aiyo, seeing it report a loss with no dividend, think I shld change to "short" camp liao, despite supporting it all the way since 1.22 offer
 
 
Peter_Pan
    11-Jul-2013 18:04  
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Since i already dumped her today...tomorrow will see want to give her another chance or not!!!
 
 
SFGuyRuleZ
    11-Jul-2013 18:04  
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Stocks are considered to be relatively liquid, meaning they can easily be exchanged into cash. Adding net book value to intrinsic value would be considered a " fair" valuation. But some will not agree to sum them up. It has to depend on how one valuate that stock to be " fair" . At least that's what I learnt last time. If you have a different interpretation, can share with me also..  Smiley

pineapple123      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:51) Posted:

how'd you even come to this?? could you enlighten me? i study finance but i haven't heard of deriving fair value/share in this manner before. cheers.

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:42) Posted:



Based on half-yr results which is just released:

Net book Value / share (excluding intangible assets) ~= $0.55

 

Assuming current earnings based on half-yr results and taking into account no growth (positive or negative),


Intrinsic value or DCF valuation / share ~= $0.48

 

Therefore, fair value / share = $1.03

 

The slight loss this quarter was indeed unexpected for me. But since it is a one-time loss and the loss is relatively minimal, I am not too worried. Will remain vested for me. Cheers!! Smiley


 

 
ynnek1267
    11-Jul-2013 18:01  
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i know your feeling, take care.

SGX sentiment is still 'short'. This is very bad to Vard facing this problem in this period.

flyfox      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:57) Posted:

haha you so confident, maybe u should short to make money also

ynnek1267      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:56) Posted:

wah, so many supporters. it will only attract shortist interest to bring it down further.


 
 
flyfox
    11-Jul-2013 17:57  
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haha you so confident, maybe u should short to make money also

ynnek1267      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:56) Posted:

wah, so many supporters. it will only attract shortist interest to bring it down further.

 
 
ynnek1267
    11-Jul-2013 17:56  
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wah, so many supporters. it will only attract shortist interest to bring it down further.
 
 
flyfox
    11-Jul-2013 17:53  
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Eh the receivables must discount abit also.

 

I not too sure if they can sustain it.

 

I wonder how the pre-openings will be like tmr.. 

 

Long term still okla..but sad to see prices falling down and down 

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:42) Posted:



Based on half-yr results which is just released:

Net book Value / share (excluding intangible assets) ~= $0.55

 

Assuming current earnings based on half-yr results and taking into account no growth (positive or negative),


Intrinsic value or DCF valuation / share ~= $0.48

 

Therefore, fair value / share = $1.03

 

The slight loss this quarter was indeed unexpected for me. But since it is a one-time loss and the loss is relatively minimal, I am not too worried. Will remain vested for me. Cheers!! Smiley

 
 
pineapple123
    11-Jul-2013 17:51  
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how'd you even come to this?? could you enlighten me? i study finance but i haven't heard of deriving fair value/share in this manner before. cheers.

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:42) Posted:



Based on half-yr results which is just released:

Net book Value / share (excluding intangible assets) ~= $0.55

 

Assuming current earnings based on half-yr results and taking into account no growth (positive or negative),


Intrinsic value or DCF valuation / share ~= $0.48

 

Therefore, fair value / share = $1.03

 

The slight loss this quarter was indeed unexpected for me. But since it is a one-time loss and the loss is relatively minimal, I am not too worried. Will remain vested for me. Cheers!! Smiley

 

 
flyfox
    11-Jul-2013 17:51  
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Lol sorry i see wrong, its last year..

 

damn no dividend somemore... :(((( 

expertinvestor      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:29) Posted:

Where got dividend!

flyfox      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:25) Posted:



But if its a one time off loss, still not to bad lah.

 

Long term they are still quite optimistic.

 

Plus got good dividend lol 


 
 
TinyPotato
    11-Jul-2013 17:51  
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The Q2 loss of NOK 44 mil is due to the remaining write down of impairment charges NOK 70 mil related to the Brazil Yard.
 
 
ynnek1267
    11-Jul-2013 17:50  
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see how market interpret tomorrow loh.

So far lah, once company make loss, it will make loss continually lah. to me, the management is typical angmo management lah, like to paint good picture.

The fact is, revenue is drop, all the cost are getting higher & higher. Their brazil shipyard still there, project still there, cost overrun will just continue lah and require long time to overturn the situation

Not good to invest at all in next 1 year.  Investor can only expect  on breakeven or becoming worse in next few quarters.

cutemoney      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:37) Posted:

Errm.... the result is consider bad? i thought this company still make the profit? I am confuse @_@

ynnek1267      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:32) Posted:



habis lah. the management keep cheating lah, say no worry no worry, situation getting worse and worse and worse.

Running yard in brazil is a mistake ah.

be careful of Sembmar who is also building yard in brazil and building rigs for petrobras. Another one will overrun their cost hor.


 
 
GorgeousOng
    11-Jul-2013 17:46  
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Thank you! Cheers!

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:42) Posted:



Based on half-yr results which is just released:

Net book Value / share (excluding intangible assets) ~= $0.55

 

Assuming current earnings based on half-yr results and taking into account no growth (positive or negative),


Intrinsic value or DCF valuation / share ~= $0.48

 

Therefore, fair value / share = $1.03

 

The slight loss this quarter was indeed unexpected for me. But since it is a one-time loss and the loss is relatively minimal, I am not too worried. Will remain vested for me. Cheers!! Smiley

 
 
rabbitfoot
    11-Jul-2013 17:43  
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I jual separuh in may.

halleluyah      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:28) Posted:

Bro rabbit, wat happened to Gallant arh?? Tak boleh jalan lei...pasal orang tak nak main....low volumme.  U masih pegang tak?

rabbitfoot      ( Date: 11-Jul-2013 17:22) Posted:

Anybody got a hanky ? Started dripping leow, tears I mean


 
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