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Mother of all IPOs - Hutchison Port Holdings Trust

There always genius looking to con idiot and idiot wish to con genius. Mind within their own mind and world,  not many  can really look out of themself by looking themself from outside mind. That why many people always do wrong thing by thinking they r right in their own mind. Change conquer changes and open mind conquer close mind.

niuyear      ( Date: 10-Mar-2011 15:17) Posted: In stock markets, who is the genius.    hahaha! Lets  join in the bunch of  " idiots" .....lol!   warrenbegger      ( Date: 10-Mar-2011 15:03) Posted: There is a saying  in poker If u cant find the idiot in an hour, then u r the idiot! LOL!!!

 

In stock markets, who is the genius.    hahaha!

Lets  join in the bunch of  " idiots" .....lol!

 

warrenbegger      ( Date: 10-Mar-2011 15:03) Posted: There is a saying  in poker If u cant find the idiot in an hour, then u r the idiot! LOL!!!

 

There is a saying  in poker If u cant find the idiot in an hour, then u r the idiot! LOL!!!

 

 

Scarley is like this   everyday after the ipo  , how?    hahaha!

knightrider      ( Date: 10-Mar-2011 12:04) Posted: Trade in US$, and US$ keep trending down, now US$1 = S$1.26x, what the f@#k, buy you pay US$, sell you convert back to S$, double lost. US$ is coming down, by year end Xchange will be S$1.23.

 

Trade in US$, and US$ keep trending down, now US$1 = S$1.26x, what the f@#k, buy you pay US$, sell you convert back to S$, double lost. US$ is coming down, by year end Xchange will be S$1.23.

 

Just don't apply la, wait and see after market open, if good then buy lor !

 

So confused.. okie, decide in 3days.. thanks for imput  

 

Our PSA list buoy ke, so call HK stock here. Wonder why they not listed in HK ?  Puzzle...........

 

such a huge ipo sure like tai si lang got house to push tilll tong one...if buy first three days must sell....hopefully will be sell down den pick up cheap n let e house push back up n sell. but thats e perfect world .

 

That is y I interpret cannot buy ??? Bad omen , LOL.

 

LOL! Ka Chen= Backside.    Li=Tear in hokkien. Siao liao. LLOOLL!!!

knightrider      ( Date: 09-Mar-2011 12:05) Posted: Sure there is people who buy and people who don't buy lor ! I am the later, because I kia si. Even later then buy from open market if this is a good share also can. Remember Singtel, 1995, the bidding IPO (at that time got auction or so call bidding tender like COE, but one must bid and tender the exact price then they gives u, different from tikam tikam apply from ATM). Ken li nia, at that time, I ATM apply the tender at S$3.60 and   vo vo shooter , the target so accurate, I kana 5lots for the tender price and hold the share for many donkey years before sell off at S$4.25 in 2006 or 2007 ( hold nearly 10 yrs, in between bloody hell, they reduce from share holder and force buy back 2 times at S$2.74 or lower). After S$4.25, did Singtel ever go back to this price, I think from my memory, none at all. So for such big volumes of paper, so what, just because it is Li Ka Chen (back side in hokkien). Please don't be suckers, they just print paper and we throw $$. LOL. SGG_SGG      ( Date: 08-Mar-2011 19:32) Posted: Then how come people subscribing to their shares?

 

 

Aiya, y so " kang kor" , just don't buy lor. Take a safer rd, wait until market open, good then grab also not too late, si bo ?

 

This time round, if    this    IPO      doesnt perform and trade under water like those  past  'ipos' that traded under water,      STORM  to    SGX,  queue there day and night,  make sure they perform .

knightrider      ( Date: 09-Mar-2011 12:05) Posted: Sure there is people who buy and people who don't buy lor ! I am the later, because I kia si. Even later then buy from open market if this is a good share also can. Remember Singtel, 1995, the bidding IPO (at that time got auction or so call bidding tender like COE, but one must bid and tender the exact price then they gives u, different from tikam tikam apply from ATM). Ken li nia, at that time, I ATM apply the tender at S$3.60 and   vo vo shooter , the target so accurate, I kana 5lots for the tender price and hold the share for many donkey years before sell off at S$4.25 in 2006 or 2007 ( hold nearly 10 yrs, in between bloody hell, they reduce from share holder and force buy back 2 times at S$2.74 or lower). After S$4.25, did Singtel ever go back to this price, I think from my memory, none at all. So for such big volumes of paper, so what, just because it is Li Ka Chen (back side in hokkien). Please don't be suckers, they just print paper and we throw $$. LOL. SGG_SGG      ( Date: 08-Mar-2011 19:32) Posted: Then how come people subscribing to their shares?

 

Sure there is people who buy and people who don't buy lor ! I am the later, because I kia si. Even later then buy from open market if this is a good share also can.

Remember Singtel, 1995, the bidding IPO (at that time got auction or so call bidding tender like COE, but one must bid and tender the exact price then they gives u, different from tikam tikam apply from ATM). Ken li nia, at that time, I ATM apply the tender at S$3.60 and   vo vo shooter , the target so accurate, I kana 5lots for the tender price and hold the share for many donkey years before sell off at S$4.25 in 2006 or 2007 ( hold nearly 10 yrs, in between bloody hell, they reduce from share holder and force buy back 2 times at S$2.74 or lower). After S$4.25, did Singtel ever go back to this price, I think from my memory, none at all. So for such big volumes of paper, so what, just because it is Li Ka Chen (back side in hokkien). Please don't be suckers, they just print paper and we throw $$. LOL.

SGG_SGG      ( Date: 08-Mar-2011 19:32) Posted: Then how come people subscribing to their shares? knightrider      ( Date: 08-Mar-2011 15:19) Posted: Me too ! Good Luck to all

 

My remiser said can apply lor.

Moneysense      ( Date: 08-Mar-2011 19:53) Posted: Avoid, said my broker.

 

Proforma Financial Statements (PFS) is an accountant's proposed financial statement for a business based on the assumption that certain events occurred.  To say, it is an estimate of what the company will look like....after the IPO.

If you intend to use PFS as the basis of this investment, I would like to draw your attention to items

a) Pg 212 - Properties and Equipment

b) Pg 76 - Use of Proceeds


c) Appendix Pg A12 to A30 - The assumptions and basis of the PFS. Pay attention to key words like Goodwill, Intangible assets......things that are more or less immeasurable lor......


For long term investor - Pg 47 Risk Factors

For me, I am interested in things like now or before. And the difference between Proforma and Current is the ...........

ivanlzy      ( Date: 08-Mar-2011 23:13) Posted: Hmm i believe you have  decipher  wrongly.  Your figure are quoted from selected financial statement. The correct referral i guess should be Pro forma financial information. With regards to Unitholder funds, it starts at USD$ 9.4 Billion .  Andrew      ( Date: 07-Mar-2011 23:33) Posted: A bit ex leh...... Net profit FY10 is USD 655M Total Float 8.7B shares So P/E is about 14.32 or SGD $0.10/unit As Net Asset is only USD 1371M  then NTA is about SGD0.20........... Did I screw this ?? With these number.....I doubt any kopi money for IPO sub. So I am not buying lor.

 

Hmm i believe you have  decipher  wrongly. 

Your figure are quoted from selected financial statement. The correct referral i guess should be Pro forma financial information. With regards to Unitholder funds, it starts at USD$ 9.4 Billion . 

Andrew      ( Date: 07-Mar-2011 23:33) Posted: A bit ex leh...... Net profit FY10 is USD 655M Total Float 8.7B shares So P/E is about 14.32 or SGD $0.10/unit As Net Asset is only USD 1371M  then NTA is about SGD0.20........... Did I screw this ?? With these number.....I doubt any kopi money for IPO sub. So I am not buying lor.

 

Let summarize. This IPO is like going to eBay to buy things or valuation is abit too rich.

And SGX is eBay.

 

Absolutely......but don't get too small....if not, beautiful also cannot see

Hulumas      ( Date: 08-Mar-2011 19:47) Posted: In global stock market environment, we can easily always see that poorer group financially indirectly support the heavy loaded group, as they always are miss leaded by their big/gigantic size, and forget the popular saying . . . . . . . . SMALL IS BEAUTIFUL!    Andrew      ( Date: 07-Mar-2011 23:33) Posted: A bit ex leh...... Net profit FY10 is USD 655M Total Float 8.7B shares So P/E is about 14.32 or SGD $0.10/unit As Net Asset is only USD 1371M  then NTA is about SGD0.20........... Did I screw this ?? With these number.....I doubt any kopi money for IPO sub. So I am not buying lor.