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pharoah88
    20-Jul-2010 11:40  
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nOw is the  CRiTiCAL  TiME

to SCORE  POiNTS 

in  QUANTITY  (new projects)

rather than  in  QUALITY  [especially old project has ZERO SCORE]



niuyear      ( Date: 20-Jul-2010 11:33) Posted:



Conclusion to the  Flood :

STOP BUILDING UNNECESSARY  TRACKS FOR CYCLING PURPOSE, BUT ,  TO CARRY ON THE MASTER PLAN 2008 .i.e.  TO HAVE THE WATER BODIES RUN THRU THE ESTATES  (like those of the connecting parks )  to CONTAIN RAIN WATER !!!

 
 
pharoah88
    20-Jul-2010 11:35  
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MERiTOCRACY

niuyear      ( Date: 20-Jul-2010 11:27) Posted:

Our garment must always have the  suspicious mind on  'where are those  'SUPPLYs'   coming from when building and contructions are concerned.!

1) labour supply - foreigners are not taking english instruction propertl cos of poor understanding and communications

2) Raw materials supply - be it using on the building of roads or track or 'blocks of buildings' ,  the supply of sands and other materials, are not to be taken lightly.

 



Hulumas      ( Date: 20-Jul-2010 11:16) Posted:

Big holes? Now it is not an appropriated time to happen, but within two to three years perhaps!


 
 
pharoah88
    20-Jul-2010 11:33  
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ENLiGHTENMENT

knightrider      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 16:11) Posted:

Hey Brother,

this small case la ! 1 and half yrs ago, when I am on SBS bus 155, it suppose go on route to Telok Kurau to Upp Changi road and to McPherson and end at Toa Payoh. The Chines accent bus-driver, take a wrong turn and end up at Kembangan, then he ask everyone in the bus, can anyone help him and guide him back the correct path. End up, I stand beside him and escort him back to Up Changi road. LOL. They are all foreign talent ! Ha HA HAAA, Foreign Talent, and end up Foreign Tulan, a lot of us end up late in off ? LOL

Same as some Train company CEO, commented the same non-sense that the train are not pack enough, it is individual's decision, whether he or she or whatsoever, want or don't want to board the train. What non-sense comment from someone who did not take train during peak hrs ( i meant everyday), if she dare, take everyday and try and do the walk the talk as an good example! 

All hypo- hypopo hyppotamas - hypocrate (maybe spell wrongly, go check OrFox dictionary) Ha Ha Ha LOL. All say one thing and do another thing, just like all analyst reports on share !!! 



pharoah88      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 14:29) Posted:

More haste, less speed

In our rush to fill positions, firms must ensure new foreign hires are properly trained

Letter from Yee Jenn Jong

THE death and injuries caused by the crane that smashed into the upper deck of a bus along Chai Chee Road (“One killed as bus, lorry collide in Bedok”, July 17-18) is tragic. I was driving past and saw the wreckage.

I wonder how a crane arm can smash into a bus that had already overtaken it on a lane meant for vehicle passage. It looks suspiciously like someone’s negligence or poor understanding of crane operations.

It brought to my mind another dangerous incident I encountered last month while on a family day trip to Sentosa organised by my university alumni.

The bus arrived late and the driver did not know how to turn on the air-conditioning (he only managed to figure it out midway through the journey).

He asked if anyone knew how to get to Sentosa. The driver spoke only Mandarin, with a mainland Chinese accent. He said he has only just started driving bus.

Once on Sentosa, while he was going around a sloped bend, the bus stalled. He could not control the clutch. We had to direct cars behind the bus to move away as it slid several times and got dangerously close to hitting them. Finally a passenger showed him how to handle the clutch and he moved off.

We alighted at a bus stop that was on a slope. The driver again tried for five minutes before he could finally move off.

There were many people at the bus stop and I told them to move away just in case.

I have never seen such poor handling of a bus. There had been some 50 people on board, including young children.

In our haste to fill positions with foreign workers, companies must ensure they are properly trained, especially when handling vehicles and equipment.

I hope all companies take such matters seriously to avoid tragedies from happening.



 

 
niuyear
    20-Jul-2010 11:33  
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Conclusion to the  Flood :

STOP BUILDING UNNECESSARY  TRACKS FOR CYCLING PURPOSE, BUT ,  TO CARRY ON THE MASTER PLAN 2008 .i.e.  TO HAVE THE WATER BODIES RUN THRU THE ESTATES  (like those of the connecting parks )  to CONTAIN RAIN WATER !!!
 
 
pharoah88
    20-Jul-2010 11:28  
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China is becoming more like Singapore

Singapore is becoming more like China

Bicycles

flOOds

Accidents

OFF-guardities

Collapsed Buildings  are UNbelievable nOw

WiLL this HAPPEN  in FUTURE

when the Building Structures are WEAKENED in the LONG TERM ? ? ? ?

By then,  peOple  responsible  are  already DEAD . . . .

Oh my dOg . . . .



HLJHLJ      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 23:31) Posted:



I told my friend the floods could be due to Marina barrage but he said due to contruction.
In my opinion, we had construction before (in fact a lot more yrs back) but flooding was not that bad.
This round was very bad and frequent too.

after reading ipunter's reasoning, it makes sense to me.  Maybe they should just release most water during low tide and raining season.
Also, not sure of the long term effect on the building structures as well if more water is retained in the ground.
However, advantage still outweighs the disadvantage. During drough time, water will not be a problem.
Water is still very imp.

 
 
niuyear
    20-Jul-2010 11:27  
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Our garment must always have the  suspicious mind on  'where are those  'SUPPLYs'   coming from when building and contructions are concerned.!

1) labour supply - foreigners are not taking english instruction propertl cos of poor understanding and communications

2) Raw materials supply - be it using on the building of roads or track or 'blocks of buildings' ,  the supply of sands and other materials, are not to be taken lightly.

 



Hulumas      ( Date: 20-Jul-2010 11:16) Posted:

Big holes? Now it is not an appropriated time to happen, but within two to three years perhaps!

Laulan      ( Date: 20-Jul-2010 10:41) Posted:



Climate Change? Degenerating global environment? We get floods, that is ok, lucky we don't get big holes on the ground. 


 

 
pharoah88
    20-Jul-2010 11:21  
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HiPPOPOTAMUS



knightrider      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 16:11) Posted:

Hey Brother,

this small case la ! 1 and half yrs ago, when I am on SBS bus 155, it suppose go on route to Telok Kurau to Upp Changi road and to McPherson and end at Toa Payoh. The Chines accent bus-driver, take a wrong turn and end up at Kembangan, then he ask everyone in the bus, can anyone help him and guide him back the correct path. End up, I stand beside him and escort him back to Up Changi road. LOL. They are all foreign talent ! Ha HA HAAA, Foreign Talent, and end up Foreign Tulan, a lot of us end up late in off ? LOL

Same as some Train company CEO, commented the same non-sense that the train are not pack enough, it is individual's decision, whether he or she or whatsoever, want or don't want to board the train. What non-sense comment from someone who did not take train during peak hrs ( i meant everyday), if she dare, take everyday and try and do the walk the talk as an good example! 

All hypo- hypopo hyppotamas - hypocrate (maybe spell wrongly, go check OrFox dictionary) Ha Ha Ha LOL. All say one thing and do another thing, just like all analyst reports on share !!! 



pharoah88      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 14:29) Posted:

More haste, less speed

In our rush to fill positions, firms must ensure new foreign hires are properly trained

Letter from Yee Jenn Jong

THE death and injuries caused by the crane that smashed into the upper deck of a bus along Chai Chee Road (“One killed as bus, lorry collide in Bedok”, July 17-18) is tragic. I was driving past and saw the wreckage.

I wonder how a crane arm can smash into a bus that had already overtaken it on a lane meant for vehicle passage. It looks suspiciously like someone’s negligence or poor understanding of crane operations.

It brought to my mind another dangerous incident I encountered last month while on a family day trip to Sentosa organised by my university alumni.

The bus arrived late and the driver did not know how to turn on the air-conditioning (he only managed to figure it out midway through the journey).

He asked if anyone knew how to get to Sentosa. The driver spoke only Mandarin, with a mainland Chinese accent. He said he has only just started driving bus.

Once on Sentosa, while he was going around a sloped bend, the bus stalled. He could not control the clutch. We had to direct cars behind the bus to move away as it slid several times and got dangerously close to hitting them. Finally a passenger showed him how to handle the clutch and he moved off.

We alighted at a bus stop that was on a slope. The driver again tried for five minutes before he could finally move off.

There were many people at the bus stop and I told them to move away just in case.

I have never seen such poor handling of a bus. There had been some 50 people on board, including young children.

In our haste to fill positions with foreign workers, companies must ensure they are properly trained, especially when handling vehicles and equipment.

I hope all companies take such matters seriously to avoid tragedies from happening.



 
 
Hulumas
    20-Jul-2010 11:16  
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Big holes? Now it is not an appropriated time to happen, but within two to three years perhaps!

Laulan      ( Date: 20-Jul-2010 10:41) Posted:



Climate Change? Degenerating global environment? We get floods, that is ok, lucky we don't get big holes on the ground. 

 
 
pharoah88
    20-Jul-2010 11:16  
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Marina Bay Sands  already built THE ARK

boyikao3      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 21:50) Posted:

When it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, Noah was told to make an Ark where he would put pairs of animal species on board to get ready for the BIG FLOOD....Let the ocean part and let us get to the other side....! Smiley

pharoah88      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 11:42) Posted:



Shops and houses along posh Orchard Road were again hit by floods on Saturday after heavy rain overwhelmed the drainage system of the wealthy metropolis, which is often lauded for its excellent urban management.

The flooding took place just before parliament was to debate the issue on Monday following public clamour for explanations for earlier floods, which are normally associated with neighbouring capitals like Manila and Jakarta.

Residents in affected houses hauled out sodden furniture and opened windows and doors on Sunday after muddy water from overflowing canals receded.

"We never had floods like that," said Peter Wong, 49, a long-time resident in a row of houses in eastern Singapore invaded by calf-high floodwaters on Saturday.

"Everything was gone, the carpets as you can see are damaged, the bottom of all the sofa seats are still soaking wet now, after 24 hours. We had to replace a new fridge, the fridge is totally damaged," Wong told AFP.

"I'm trying to keep a cool head over this but it is frustrating. My life is disrupted," added the hotelier, who failed to take out insurance against "acts of God" like floods.

The Straits Times said some restaurants lost live fish stored in tanks.

A major highway was also closed for two and a half hours, while motorists and commuters had to be rescued from stranded vehicles, but there were no reports of major injuries.

Saturday's flash floods were the third since June 16.

Flash floods were a rare occurrence in Singapore until recently, with a climate expert interviewed by the Straits Times attributing the problem to regional weather phenomena such as Typhoon Conson and Indonesian squalls.

Critics had blasted the Public Utilities Board (PUB) for not being prepared to handle the first two floods, while the department defending itself by saying abnormal weather conditions and clogged drains were to blame.

The flooding issue has become so serious that the Singapore parliament is scheduled to address the problem when it convenes on Monday amid forecasts of more rain.


 
 
pharoah88
    20-Jul-2010 11:13  
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sEEms  LiKE 

there is mOre  MERiTOCRACY  in this  fOrUm

than the whOle of  SiNGAPORE ? ? ? ?
 

 
pharoah88
    20-Jul-2010 11:10  
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MERiTOCRACY

iPunter      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 22:41) Posted:



As a matter of logic,

I find that if the water table below ground is raised

      higher than sea level during every low tide time

          by for instance, the seaside reservoir (the barrage),

              then the soil underground will accordingly lose a lot of its usual 'water absorbing ability'

                  and thus make it easy for floods to occur with relatively little rainfall, and in spite of a drainage.

It's just a layman's view, though... but nothing technical... Smiley



 
 
niuyear
    20-Jul-2010 11:10  
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Its time to ABANDON the plans of  building more  new tracks, (eg cycling tracks) but, concentrate on the Master Plan which our garment announced in 2008.     Why borther about the cycling tracks??    NOt economical at the present moment.    They have mentioned about Plans on  Park and water bodies whereby they water paths run  thru some residential estates and they are connected (like those of connecting parks).   It is with the purpose of containing water to counter the water shortage supply. 

I am wondering whats happening to this project?   because the sooner they have it done up, the better it would be to couter the flood problem.

PLSE ABANDON those unnecessary plans but to concentrate on something more beneficial to the singapore as a whole.



Laulan      ( Date: 20-Jul-2010 10:41) Posted:



Climate Change? Degenerating global environment? We get floods, that is ok, lucky we don't get big holes on the ground. 

 
 
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    20-Jul-2010 11:05  
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niuyear      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 16:24) Posted:

The best phrase ever   :    One man's meat is another man's posion.

If one keeps chicken as pet, they will find killling chicken is cruel .  

Or if one keeps cockroaches as pet, they will like that pest to its core. (no wonder more and more people in mental hostpital ................LOL!!) 



pharoah88      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 14:48) Posted:

Animal cruelty has no parallel

Letter from Derrick Tan

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Yong. He suggested the recent uproar over the act of animal cruelty by an anonymous woman is “the height of hypocrisy”, as many of us eat meat and legitimise the shooting of crows and the poisoning of mice as “pest control”.

His argument is flawed. Pest control is vital to health and hygiene, while slaughtering animals is sanctioned to support lives and done professionally to minimise hurting the animal.

Animal cruelty has no parallel — it is the abuse and physical torture of a pet one has committed to look after, and an inhumane act that disgraces mankind.



 
 
Laulan
    20-Jul-2010 10:41  
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Climate Change? Degenerating global environment? We get floods, that is ok, lucky we don't get big holes on the ground. 
 
 
Hulumas
    20-Jul-2010 10:21  
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Global warming? & Technical issues?

HLJHLJ      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 23:31) Posted:



I told my friend the floods could be due to Marina barrage but he said due to contruction.
In my opinion, we had construction before (in fact a lot more yrs back) but flooding was not that bad.
This round was very bad and frequent too.

after reading ipunter's reasoning, it makes sense to me.  Maybe they should just release most water during low tide and raining season.
Also, not sure of the long term effect on the building structures as well if more water is retained in the ground.
However, advantage still outweighs the disadvantage. During drough time, water will not be a problem.
Water is still very imp.

 

 
HLJHLJ
    19-Jul-2010 23:31  
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I told my friend the floods could be due to Marina barrage but he said due to contruction.
In my opinion, we had construction before (in fact a lot more yrs back) but flooding was not that bad.
This round was very bad and frequent too.

after reading ipunter's reasoning, it makes sense to me.  Maybe they should just release most water during low tide and raining season.
Also, not sure of the long term effect on the building structures as well if more water is retained in the ground.
However, advantage still outweighs the disadvantage. During drough time, water will not be a problem.
Water is still very imp.
 
 
iPunter
    19-Jul-2010 22:41  
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As a matter of logic,

I find that if the water table below ground is raised

      higher than sea level during every low tide time

          by for instance, the seaside reservoir (the barrage),

              then the soil underground will accordingly lose a lot of its usual 'water absorbing ability'

                  and thus make it easy for floods to occur with relatively little rainfall, and in spite of a drainage.

It's just a layman's view, though... but nothing technical... Smiley


 
 
boyikao3
    19-Jul-2010 21:50  
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When it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, Noah was told to make an Ark where he would put pairs of animal species on board to get ready for the BIG FLOOD....Let the ocean part and let us get to the other side....! Smiley

pharoah88      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 11:42) Posted:



Shops and houses along posh Orchard Road were again hit by floods on Saturday after heavy rain overwhelmed the drainage system of the wealthy metropolis, which is often lauded for its excellent urban management.

The flooding took place just before parliament was to debate the issue on Monday following public clamour for explanations for earlier floods, which are normally associated with neighbouring capitals like Manila and Jakarta.

Residents in affected houses hauled out sodden furniture and opened windows and doors on Sunday after muddy water from overflowing canals receded.

"We never had floods like that," said Peter Wong, 49, a long-time resident in a row of houses in eastern Singapore invaded by calf-high floodwaters on Saturday.

"Everything was gone, the carpets as you can see are damaged, the bottom of all the sofa seats are still soaking wet now, after 24 hours. We had to replace a new fridge, the fridge is totally damaged," Wong told AFP.

"I'm trying to keep a cool head over this but it is frustrating. My life is disrupted," added the hotelier, who failed to take out insurance against "acts of God" like floods.

The Straits Times said some restaurants lost live fish stored in tanks.

A major highway was also closed for two and a half hours, while motorists and commuters had to be rescued from stranded vehicles, but there were no reports of major injuries.

Saturday's flash floods were the third since June 16.

Flash floods were a rare occurrence in Singapore until recently, with a climate expert interviewed by the Straits Times attributing the problem to regional weather phenomena such as Typhoon Conson and Indonesian squalls.

Critics had blasted the Public Utilities Board (PUB) for not being prepared to handle the first two floods, while the department defending itself by saying abnormal weather conditions and clogged drains were to blame.

The flooding issue has become so serious that the Singapore parliament is scheduled to address the problem when it convenes on Monday amid forecasts of more rain.

 
 
beruangface
    19-Jul-2010 17:35  
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yes, that sounds like an idea :)

anyway, the flash flood is partly due to over-construction these few years, Circle line, ION Orchard, IR, but no construction of bigger draingage system....blame the gomen lar, no proper planning ..

 



niuyear      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 16:28) Posted:

beruangface

Dont worry,   we just need to blame it on BP oil spill that causing chunks and  chunks of BIG OIL CLOG in the sea that resulting the chokages in the WHOLE UNIVERSAL  drainage system...........Go and claim from   BP and have  BP pay for all the damages.



beruangface      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 11:53) Posted:

Whatever they're going to do, please don't increase the personal income tax, just use the tax & levy collected from the 2 casinos to build bigger longkang, I dont really care...


 
 
niuyear
    19-Jul-2010 16:28  
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beruangface

Dont worry,   we just need to blame it on BP oil spill that causing chunks and  chunks of BIG OIL CLOG in the sea that resulting the chokages in the WHOLE UNIVERSAL  drainage system...........Go and claim from   BP and have  BP pay for all the damages.



beruangface      ( Date: 19-Jul-2010 11:53) Posted:

Whatever they're going to do, please don't increase the personal income tax, just use the tax & levy collected from the 2 casinos to build bigger longkang, I dont really care...

 
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