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freshmind
    05-Jul-2010 12:41  
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Do u hold a lot of Genting sp shares???  IF CHINESE FROM CHINA WANT TO GAMBLE, THEY CAN JUST SIMPLY GO TO MACAU, THAT'S ALL!
 
 
pharoah88
    05-Jul-2010 12:23  
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Good news for retailers

Jo-ann Huang

joannhuang@mediacorp.com.sg

SINGAPORE

With a higher yuan, Singapore will be a less costly tourist destination for the Chinese, said Mr Liu Jinshu, investment analyst at Sias Research.

“Chinese tourists already accounted for 9.7 per cent of total arrivals in 2009. With a stronger yuan, we can expect more visitors from China,” he said.

About 72,000 Chinese tourists touched down on Singapore shores in May, making them the fourth-largest country in terms of visitor arrivals.

The top three countries in terms of tourist arrivals in May are Indonesia with 186,000 visitors; India with 116,000 visitors; Malaysia with 82,000 visitors and Australia taking fifth place with 64,000 visitors.

Mr Liu said with most visitors coming from Asia, the European debt crisis is not yet a mounting concern.

“The euro zone debt crisis will have a relatively smaller impact on Singapore retail trade as a whole,” he said.

“Hence, our retailers are less reliant on European customers.

Reduced takings from them will probably be more than offset by higher receipts from other nationalities and local spending,” he continued.

With the Singapore economy hitting 15.5-per-cent growth on-year in the first quarter, retail sales excluding motor vehicles grew only 7.4 per cent in the same period.

But Mr Liu is sanguine on the retail sector for the second half of this year, despite a slower performance compared to broad economic growth.

“I believe that consumption will increase towards the  end of 2010, as employers become more willing to increase wages and bonuses in view of what I expect to be stronger profit numbers for 2010,” said Mr Liu.

Ms Sng Ngoi May, chairwoman from the Orchard Business Association, said retailers are cautiously optimistic as the global economy undergoes a patchy recovery and effects from the Integrated Resorts are only beginning to seep in.

However, with rising operation costs, retailers are also looking at thinner margins, said Ms Lau Chuen Wei of the Singapore Retailers Association.

“Singapore has moved up a rung in global retail rents ranking to be the 17th most expensive city in the world, even though more retail space has been added to Singapore stock,” she said.

Labour costs are also set to increase with foreign manpower regulations tightening.

“As these two cost components make up a good 70 per cent of a retailer’s operating costs, it is unlikely that profit margins will rise any time soon, even if top line sales figures show an upward trend,” she added.

She maintains that retailers have to remain innovative in an increasingly competitive market and relook manpower strategies to minimise costs.— Singapore retailers can look forward to higher expenditure from an influx of Chinese tourists. That is if policy-makers decide to tighten the yuan, said analysts.

Chinese tourists already accounted for 9.7 per cent of total arrivals in 2009.

Mr Liu Jinshu, investment

analyst at Sias Research

With a stronger yuan, we can expect more visitors from China.

 
 
AnthonyTan
    05-Jul-2010 11:46  
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Forget about this counter.Wait for opportunity ONLY.

We should move on to other counters.



freshmind      ( Date: 05-Jul-2010 11:16) Posted:

Investing in Genting sp is meaningless, so many time they treat the small investors like a fool!  Putting money in the shares just like no different as gambling in the casino.

 

 
Hulumas
    05-Jul-2010 11:40  
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Too liquid a share is not a good counter! Remember what I say!

freshmind      ( Date: 05-Jul-2010 11:16) Posted:

Investing in Genting sp is meaningless, so many time they treat the small investors like a fool!  Putting money in the shares just like no different as gambling in the casino.

 
 
Hulumas
    05-Jul-2010 11:38  
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Now then you know. Any way, it is not too late!

freshmind      ( Date: 05-Jul-2010 11:16) Posted:

Investing in Genting sp is meaningless, so many time they treat the small investors like a fool!  Putting money in the shares just like no different as gambling in the casino.

 
 
freshmind
    05-Jul-2010 11:16  
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Investing in Genting sp is meaningless, so many time they treat the small investors like a fool!  Putting money in the shares just like no different as gambling in the casino.
 

 
AnthonyTan
    05-Jul-2010 10:08  
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Genting Sp divest its entire UK casino operation for S$688.8m

Book an excess over book value of around S$103m

Can anyone pl. explain "it will also  recognize a non-cash

exchang translation loss of S$338.8m". Kam siah (thank you)



pharoah88      ( Date: 05-Jul-2010 09:05) Posted:

Genting Singapore: Selling off UK operations

Summary: Genting Singapore (GS) has entered into a conditional sale and purchase agreement to divest its entire UK casino operations for
£340m (or S$688.8m). If the proposed divestment is completed, GS will receive net proceeds of ~S$688.8m and will book an excess over book value of around S$103.6m. However, it will also recognize a non-cash exchange translation loss of ~S$338.8m. But we are not overly concerned as we view the sale as an exceptional item; we also agree with management’s intention to focus its energy on RWS and also opportunities in the region, as gaming here is still likely to experience good growth prospects. Assuming the deal is completed, we expect it to reduce our FY10 sales estimate by 24% but increase our net profit estimate by 13% as margins would improve ex-UK operations. As we also believe that GS is likely to spend less in capex without its UK operations, our DCF-based fair value rises from S$1.29 to S$1.34. Maintain BUY. (Carey Wong)


 
 
AnthonyTan
    05-Jul-2010 09:31  
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Most companies alway project or show nice numbers

in their financial reports.Sorry I cannot quote the co.

here. You check it out.



alooloo      ( Date: 05-Jul-2010 09:05) Posted:



You're right up to now...

But you can't stop them use the number to project good EPS for FY10....

I calculated... it can be as good as 12 cents EPS.... for FY10... if they use the 6mil to offset first quarter loss.

 
 
Speeder
    05-Jul-2010 09:30  
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Mean "sell" and "buy" other stock?


AnthonyTan      ( Date: 05-Jul-2010 09:23) Posted:

BY MORGAN STANLEY RESEARCH ASIA/PACIFIC

Genting Sp is the most expensive stock in gaming coverage

universe (16X2011e EV/EBITDA)

Yet ppls are buying, why??????

For the future?????? no body can tell, float or sink



pharoah88      ( Date: 05-Jul-2010 09:05) Posted:

Genting Singapore: Selling off UK operations

Summary: Genting Singapore (GS) has entered into a conditional sale and purchase agreement to divest its entire UK casino operations for
£340m (or S$688.8m). If the proposed divestment is completed, GS will receive net proceeds of ~S$688.8m and will book an excess over book value of around S$103.6m. However, it will also recognize a non-cash exchange translation loss of ~S$338.8m. But we are not overly concerned as we view the sale as an exceptional item; we also agree with management’s intention to focus its energy on RWS and also opportunities in the region, as gaming here is still likely to experience good growth prospects. Assuming the deal is completed, we expect it to reduce our FY10 sales estimate by 24% but increase our net profit estimate by 13% as margins would improve ex-UK operations. As we also believe that GS is likely to spend less in capex without its UK operations, our DCF-based fair value rises from S$1.29 to S$1.34. Maintain BUY. (Carey Wong)



 
 
AnthonyTan
    05-Jul-2010 09:23  
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BY MORGAN STANLEY RESEARCH ASIA/PACIFIC

Genting Sp is the most expensive stock in gaming coverage

universe (16X2011e EV/EBITDA)

Yet ppls are buying, why??????

For the future?????? no body can tell, float or sink



pharoah88      ( Date: 05-Jul-2010 09:05) Posted:

Genting Singapore: Selling off UK operations

Summary: Genting Singapore (GS) has entered into a conditional sale and purchase agreement to divest its entire UK casino operations for
£340m (or S$688.8m). If the proposed divestment is completed, GS will receive net proceeds of ~S$688.8m and will book an excess over book value of around S$103.6m. However, it will also recognize a non-cash exchange translation loss of ~S$338.8m. But we are not overly concerned as we view the sale as an exceptional item; we also agree with management’s intention to focus its energy on RWS and also opportunities in the region, as gaming here is still likely to experience good growth prospects. Assuming the deal is completed, we expect it to reduce our FY10 sales estimate by 24% but increase our net profit estimate by 13% as margins would improve ex-UK operations. As we also believe that GS is likely to spend less in capex without its UK operations, our DCF-based fair value rises from S$1.29 to S$1.34. Maintain BUY. (Carey Wong)


 

 
pharoah88
    05-Jul-2010 09:05  
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Genting Singapore: Selling off UK operations

Summary: Genting Singapore (GS) has entered into a conditional sale and purchase agreement to divest its entire UK casino operations for
£340m (or S$688.8m). If the proposed divestment is completed, GS will receive net proceeds of ~S$688.8m and will book an excess over book value of around S$103.6m. However, it will also recognize a non-cash exchange translation loss of ~S$338.8m. But we are not overly concerned as we view the sale as an exceptional item; we also agree with management’s intention to focus its energy on RWS and also opportunities in the region, as gaming here is still likely to experience good growth prospects. Assuming the deal is completed, we expect it to reduce our FY10 sales estimate by 24% but increase our net profit estimate by 13% as margins would improve ex-UK operations. As we also believe that GS is likely to spend less in capex without its UK operations, our DCF-based fair value rises from S$1.29 to S$1.34. Maintain BUY. (Carey Wong)

 
 
alooloo
    05-Jul-2010 09:05  
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You're right up to now...

But you can't stop them use the number to project good EPS for FY10....

I calculated... it can be as good as 12 cents EPS.... for FY10... if they use the 6mil to offset first quarter loss.
 
 
AnthonyTan
    05-Jul-2010 08:56  
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AnthonyTan      ( Date: 04-Jul-2010 13:06) Posted:



Genting Sp is the most expensive stock in

gaming coverage universe (16X2011e EV/EBITDA )

Genting Sp sold it UK casino business to Genting

Malaysia for S$697 million.In 2006, Genting Sp bought

the UK casino business at a price of S$1.861 billion - thus

the value lost was S$1.17 billion. The point is they see

potential when they buy the business. Likewise, there is no

sure profit for any new ventures.

 
 
AnthonyTan
    04-Jul-2010 13:06  
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Genting Sp is the most expensive stock in

gaming coverage universe (16X2011e EV/EBITDA )

Genting Sp sold it UK casino business to Genting

Malaysia for S$697 million.In 2006, Genting Sp bought

the UK casino business at a price of S$1.861 billion - thus

the value lost was S$1.17 billion. The point is they see

potential when they buy the business. Likewise, there is no

sure profit for any new ventures.
 
 
lowchia
    04-Jul-2010 12:37  
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On Friday, Genting had a huge selling down and closed at $1.16 with high volume of 0.19 billion shares traded.

An engulfing bearish line occurred (where a black candle’s real body completely contains the previous white candle’s real body).  The engulfing bearish pattern is bearish during an uptrend which signifies that the momentum may be shifting from the bulls to the bears.

Both RSI & MACD are turning bearish as RSI did a sharp down tick on Friday.

Important Resistance of Genting: $1.21

Immediate Support of Genting: $1.16

Profit taking seems to have started on Friday on heavy volume after the news announcement.

It is impossible to buy now since the price has soared way above the moving averages.

SEE CHART & ANALYSIS FOR DBS


If vested, we would monitor if prices could be hold onto the technical/ 20days MA support at $1.12. Do consider to take profit once that support beached.
 

 
WLBO_BB
    04-Jul-2010 00:44  
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i cant call those fxxker as insider, or BBs... but surely they have knew abt the deal one month plus ago thus the they keep on buying till it hit $1.2 plus... now that the deal is out... they will start dumping until few week before the next quarteerly result come out... shorted this genting again on friday... i dun believe i going to loss 10 in a row... 
 
 
E-war
    03-Jul-2010 19:55  
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In the same financial year sure.
 
 
alooloo
    03-Jul-2010 18:47  
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A question in my mind, hope some of the expert here can help:

1) Would like to ask, can they use the cash retrieved from the transaction ($600+ mil) to reflect as Part of Net profit calculation in balancesheet?

2) If the answer to first question is yes, i think this year it is possible to report >10cents per share EPS.


600mil = around 5-6 cents per share


Q1'10 EPS = -3 cents?

if Q1 don't have the 400 mil impairment loss, then EPS for 1.5 months is around 1-2cents EPS. So Q2 - Q4 EPS expect 3-4 cents each quarter...

Total FY10, 12 cents EPS???





 
 
freshmind
    03-Jul-2010 12:42  
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The sale of Genting UK from Genting sp to Genting Malaysia may mainly for group strategic purposes where:-

to reduce the burden of balance sheet under genting sp;

to serve tax deduction purpose for Genting Malaysia for absorting the annual losses of Genting UK (Malaysia government has announced the increase the betting tax same day as Genting sp annouced to sell Genting UK to Genting Malaysia);  and

may be to enable Genting sp has extra funds to pay back to the key shareholders i.e. Genting Bhd via certain financial tools as Genting Bhd has loaned for subcripted a big number of rights from Genting sp before.

For retail buyers who just bought blindly and madly must watch out the trap of BBs because it doesn't serve much advantage to small investors in short term because Genting Singapore still bear a BIG amount of investment and operation costs!
 
 
E-war
    02-Jul-2010 22:42  
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Well, they will have to report profit next round since their punching bag is gone.
 
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