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libraleong
    28-Sep-2012 09:56  
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Any advise can buy THAIBev now....Thanks
 
 
sgnewbie
    28-Sep-2012 09:39  
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sanuks
    28-Sep-2012 08:59  
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With this, ThaiBev own 30.6% + 15% = 45.6% (estimate).  Smiley
 

 
sanuks
    28-Sep-2012 08:53  
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Kirin Holdings to sell F& N stake to ThaiBev for $1.54 bln - Nikkei



Sept 28


(Reuters) - Kirin Holdings Co is expected to sell its 15 percent stake in Singapore's Fraser and Neave Ltd for 120 billion yen ($1.54 billion), the Nikkei business daily reported.


The Japanese brewer is expected to sell its holdings to billionaire Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi's Thai Beverage Plc , which is conducting a tender offer for Fraser and Neave's shares through Oct. 29, the daily said.

Thai Beverage has been raising it stake in the Singapore conglomerate as it battled with Dutch brewer Heineken NV over the potential sale of F& N's stake in Asia Pacific Breweries.

Sirivadhanabhakdi, Thailand's third-richest man, launched a $7.2 billion offer last week to buy out F& N, a move seen at the time as possibly derailing Heineken's $6.3 billion bid for the stakes of F& N and other shareholders in Tiger Beer maker APB.

However, Thai Beverage and TCC Assets Ltd, collectively F& N's largest shareholder with a 30.7 percent stake, said last week that they would support the deal. ($1 = 77.6950 Japanese yen) (Reporting by Chris Jonathan Peters in Bangalore Editing by Roshni Menon)
 
 
x1uhu1
    28-Sep-2012 08:22  
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ThaiBev plan to veto cap reduction positive: CIMB
Date: 27/09/2012

Source : CIMB

ThaiBev’s decision to veto F& N’s capital-reduction plan is strategic, CIMB says. “Although ThaiBev misses the chance to reduce its gearing, we believe this is a positive move as it increases the likelihood that F& N shareholders will accept TCC Assets’ $8.88 offer.” CIMB says.

F& N shareholders must either accept the $8.88/share offer to realise returns or run the risk F& N’s share price will collapse without the capital reduction’s backing if the Thai group’s offer is allowed to lapse. CIMB adds, the Thai group could also be eyeing more of the cash from the APB sale as it would receive only 30.4%, or $1.2 billion, if the capital reduction proceeds.

If the Thais mop up more of F& N or gain control, they would be entitled to a greater portion and could even propose a larger payout, helping finance the F& N takeover, it says. CIMB remains positive on ThaiBev as it will reap strategic benefits if the F& N offer succeeds “the current share price, even after the run-up year to date, does not fully reflect the value of its spirits business, let alone the full sum-of-parts.”

It keeps ThaiBev at Outperform with $0.60 target. The stock is down 2.4% at $0.415, but remains up around 69% year-to-date.
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sanuks
    28-Sep-2012 07:37  
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Thai S$8.8b offer for F& N open till Oct 29
SINGAPORE - TCC Assets, the investment vehicle controlled by Thai billionaire Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi, said yesterday its S$8.8 billion offer to take control of Singapore conglomerate Fraser & Neave (F& N) would remain open until Oct 29.

In its offer document filed with the Singapore Exchange (SGX), TCC said it intended to become a long-term strategic shareholder of F& N. Depending on the outcome of its offer, the Thai company also plans to review F& N's existing businesses, which spans property, food and beverage, and publishing.

TCC said it wanted to keep F& N listed on the SGX and had no immediate plans to materially change the conglomerate's businesses or redeploy its assets, according to the filing.

The offer by TCC values F& N at S$12.53 billion. Mr Sirivadhanabhakdi already owns 28.9 per cent of F& N through his Singapore-listed Thai Beverage. The two Thai companies currently have a combined 30.7-per-cent stake in F& N.

TCC Assets has made a general offer of S$8.88 per share for all the F& N shares neither it nor ThaiBev own.

According to the offer document, TCC and ThaiBev have not received any irrevocable undertakings from any party to accept or reject TCC's offer.

Mr Sirivadhanabhakdi bid for F& N comes amid a S$5.5 billion offer from Dutch brewer Heineken to acquire F& N's entire stake in Asia-Pacific Breweries, the joint venture between F& N and Heineken that makes the local icon, Tiger Beer.

TCC and ThaiBev previously said they plan to support Heineken's bid for APB at a meeting of F& N's shareholders on Friday. But the two companies said on Wednesday they would oppose, at the same shareholder meeting, F& N's proposed capital reduction programme, which involves distributing to shareholders 84 per cent of the proceeds from the sale of its APB stake to Heineken.

Also yesterday, F& N and APB filed requests with the SGX for trading in their shares to be halted today pending the results of F& N's extraordinary general meeting beginning this morning. DOW JONES
 

 
tanglinboy
    28-Sep-2012 07:19  
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I'm also keeping a close look!
 
 
sanuks
    27-Sep-2012 23:54  
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Tomorrow is the judgement day. Keep your fingers crossed!!! Smiley

shadowmoon      ( Date: 27-Sep-2012 23:15) Posted:

THBev is undervalue....It worth more than current price
C how tomorrow goes. Cheers

sanuks      ( Date: 27-Sep-2012 14:13) Posted:



I am no expert in advising people. You know yourself better than everyone else.  Just my two cents,

if holding on to this counter will caused you heartburn or sleepless night. Take your profit now.

But, if you need professional input before taking any action, i have paste a latest CIMB report below.

Hope this help in your decision making. Good luck!


 
 
shadowmoon
    27-Sep-2012 23:15  
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THBev is undervalue....It worth more than current price
C how tomorrow goes. Cheers

sanuks      ( Date: 27-Sep-2012 14:13) Posted:



I am no expert in advising people. You know yourself better than everyone else.  Just my two cents,

if holding on to this counter will caused you heartburn or sleepless night. Take your profit now.

But, if you need professional input before taking any action, i have paste a latest CIMB report below.

Hope this help in your decision making. Good luck!


jingsze91      ( Date: 27-Sep-2012 11:33) Posted:

anyone still holding? kinda worried about its drop.


 
 
x1uhu1
    27-Sep-2012 20:13  
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F& N and APB trading halt
 

 
WSCCCCCC
    27-Sep-2012 18:12  
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Thanks mate, it would be best if someone knew the outcome can post it here, hence we can act accordingly...

oldflyingfox      ( Date: 27-Sep-2012 17:48) Posted:

EGM start at 10am Friday, so maybe we will know the result at around 11am.

 
 
oldflyingfox
    27-Sep-2012 17:48  
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EGM start at 10am Friday, so maybe we will know the result at around 11am.
 
 
WSCCCCCC
    27-Sep-2012 17:07  
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Any idea when we can know the result? Morning or noon time? What decision will make THBEV rally?
 
 
sanuks
    27-Sep-2012 14:26  
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Thai Billionaire may push F& N deal by blocking dividend payment
Written by Bloomberg    
Thursday, 27 September 2012 14:04










Thai billionaire Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi’s plan to block a Fraser & Neave dividend may be a tactic to push the Singapore conglomerate’s shareholders into accepting his US$7.3 billion ($9 billion) acquisition offer.

Thai Beverage Pcl and TCC Assets, controlled by Charoen, will vote against F& N’s plan to distribute $4 billion to shareholders at a special general meeting tomorrow, according to yesterday’s statement to the Singapore Stock Exchange.

F& N shareholders are scheduled to vote on the company’s plans to sell its 40% stake in Asia Pacific Breweries to Heineken NV and to distribute proceeds from that sale through a dividend. Charoen, who this month made a $9 billion offer to buy the rest of F& N, has pledged to back Heineken’s purchase of the brewer. He is still able to block F& N’s dividend payment because it needs approval from 75% of shareholders.

“It’s another tactic,” said Jonathan Foster, Singapore- based director of Global Special Situations at Religare Capital Markets, referring to the Thai dividend veto. “By doing this you reduce the alternatives available to F& N shareholders, you increase the uncertainty for them, and that’s going to have the result of getting them to accept your offer.”

F& N shares fell 0.1% to $8.89 in Singapore as of 1:47 p.m. local time, above Charoen’s offer of $8.88 a share.

F& N shareholders won’t vote on the Thai offer for F& N tomorrow. A date for that vote hasn’t been scheduled. Thai Beverage and TCC Assets have a stake of about 30.66% in F& N, according to yesterday’s statement.


ADJOURNING VOTE
The vote on the payout could be adjourned until after the period of the Thai offer runs out, Foster said. F& N is looking at other alternatives to distribute proceeds to shareholders, it said today.

“The F& N board will look into other options of distributing part of the sale proceeds to shareholders upon the expiry of the TCC offer period,” said Elaine Lim, a spokeswoman for F& N at its public relations firm, Citigate Dewe Rogerson.

F& N last month said it plans to distribute to shareholders about $4 billion of the proceeds from the sale of its stake in APB. F& N will cancel one share for every three shares held, it said, and make a cash distribution of $8.50 for each share canceled.

Charoen’s F& N bid is the largest takeover announced by a Thai company in at least 10 years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. A successful bid by Charoen’s companies would add fast-growing soft drinks, dairy and real-estate businesses to their portfolio.

Charoen’s Thai Beverage and TCC said earlier this month that they will back Heineken’s $5.6 billion offer for F& N’s beer business. Vichate Tantiwanich, Thai Beverage’s spokesman, didn’t immediately respond to an e-mail seeking comment.

KIRIN’S INTEREST
The billionaire’s agreement to support Heineken’s offer for APB spurred speculation that he would break up F& N, a 129-year- old group. Japanese brewer Kirin Holdings Co. owns a 15% stake in F& N and had considered making a bid for its food and soft-drinks unit, several people with knowledge of the matter said in July.

Nahoko Abe, a spokesman for Kirin, declined to comment on ThaiBev’s announcement or on how it plans to vote at the shareholder meeting tomorrow.

“I think Kirin should sell its stake as they are not getting the money,” said Naoki Fujiwara, chief fund manager at Shinkin Asset Management Co. in Tokyo. “The takeover bid has a premium so they will definitely get their share of return.”
 
 
sanuks
    27-Sep-2012 14:16  
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Its taking a  breather right now before carry on with the journey.  Smiley

 

daylight28      ( Date: 27-Sep-2012 12:25) Posted:



battery no juice liao.

 

 

 
sanuks
    27-Sep-2012 14:13  
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I am no expert in advising people. You know yourself better than everyone else.  Just my two cents,

if holding on to this counter will caused you heartburn or sleepless night. Take your profit now.

But, if you need professional input before taking any action, i have paste a latest CIMB report below.

Hope this help in your decision making. Good luck!


jingsze91      ( Date: 27-Sep-2012 11:33) Posted:

anyone still holding? kinda worried about its drop.

 
 
sanuks
    27-Sep-2012 14:05  
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This might answer your doubts :-

 


ThaiBev plan to veto cap reduction positive: CIMB
Written by Dow Jones & Co, Inc    
Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:24






ThaiBev’s decision to veto F& N’s capital-reduction plan is strategic, CIMB says. “Although ThaiBev misses the chance to reduce its gearing, we believe this is a positive move as it increases the likelihood that F& N shareholders will accept TCC Assets’ $8.88 offer.” CIMB says.

F& N shareholders must either accept the $8.88/share offer to realise returns or run the risk F& N’s share price will collapse without the capital reduction’s backing if the Thai group’s offer is allowed to lapse. CIMB adds, the Thai group could also be eyeing more of the cash from the APB sale as it would receive only 30.4%, or $1.2 billion, if the capital reduction proceeds.

If the Thais mop up more of F& N or gain control, they would be entitled to a greater portion and could even propose a larger payout, helping finance the F& N takeover, it says. CIMB remains positive on ThaiBev as it will reap strategic benefits if the F& N offer succeeds “the current share price, even after the run-up year to date, does not fully reflect the value of its spirits business, let alone the full sum-of-parts.”

It keeps ThaiBev at Outperform with $0.60 target. The stock is down 2.4% at $0.415, but remains up around 69% year-to-date.


 

bluechip138      ( Date: 27-Sep-2012 11:31) Posted:



Most analysts said that F& N is worth about $9.50 after taking into account of capital reduction return of $4B to shareholders and $1.6B to pay F& N debt via APB sale.

If TB wants to reject capital reduction exercise and keep this $ after its takeover, F& N board will definitely ask for more than its current offer price of $8.88. Goldman and JPmorgan are advisers to F& N to evaluate the offers. They need to justify for their fees.

  How much more do you think TB is willing to pay for F& N per share?

 
 
daylight28
    27-Sep-2012 12:25  
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battery no juice liao.

 
 
 
jingsze91
    27-Sep-2012 11:33  
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anyone still holding? kinda worried about its drop.
 
 
bluechip138
    27-Sep-2012 11:31  
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Most analysts said that F& N is worth about $9.50 after taking into account of capital reduction return of $4B to shareholders and $1.6B to pay F& N debt via APB sale.

If TB wants to reject capital reduction exercise and keep this $ after its takeover, F& N board will definitely ask for more than its current offer price of $8.88. Goldman and JPmorgan are advisers to F& N to evaluate the offers. They need to justify for their fees.

  How much more do you think TB is willing to pay for F& N per share?
 
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