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Greenbean
    28-Sep-2012 16:19  
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Buy 0.410 done. Counterparty : CIMB. 

TP 0.60? Its their game plan.


Sell Q keep replenishing.  Buy Q also growing.  Controlled on both sides.




sanuks      ( Date: 27-Sep-2012 14:05) Posted:



This might answer your doubts :-

 


ThaiBev plan to veto cap reduction positive: CIMB
Written by Dow Jones & Co, Inc    
Thursday, 27 September 2012 12:24






ThaiBev’s decision to veto F& N’s capital-reduction plan is strategic, CIMB says. “Although ThaiBev misses the chance to reduce its gearing, we believe this is a positive move as it increases the likelihood that F& N shareholders will accept TCC Assets’ $8.88 offer.” CIMB says.

F& N shareholders must either accept the $8.88/share offer to realise returns or run the risk F& N’s share price will collapse without the capital reduction’s backing if the Thai group’s offer is allowed to lapse. CIMB adds, the Thai group could also be eyeing more of the cash from the APB sale as it would receive only 30.4%, or $1.2 billion, if the capital reduction proceeds.

If the Thais mop up more of F& N or gain control, they would be entitled to a greater portion and could even propose a larger payout, helping finance the F& N takeover, it says. CIMB remains positive on ThaiBev as it will reap strategic benefits if the F& N offer succeeds “the current share price, even after the run-up year to date, does not fully reflect the value of its spirits business, let alone the full sum-of-parts.”

It keeps ThaiBev at Outperform with $0.60 target. The stock is down 2.4% at $0.415, but remains up around 69% year-to-date.


 

bluechip138      ( Date: 27-Sep-2012 11:31) Posted:



Most analysts said that F& N is worth about $9.50 after taking into account of capital reduction return of $4B to shareholders and $1.6B to pay F& N debt via APB sale.

If TB wants to reject capital reduction exercise and keep this $ after its takeover, F& N board will definitely ask for more than its current offer price of $8.88. Goldman and JPmorgan are advisers to F& N to evaluate the offers. They need to justify for their fees.

  How much more do you think TB is willing to pay for F& N per share?


 
 
sanuks
    28-Sep-2012 14:54  
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Thai billionaire gets boost for F& N bid as dividend is vetoed
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Friday, 28 September 2012 13:00







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Fraser & Neave will keep US$4.6 billion ($5.6 billion) from the sale of its beer unit to Heineken NV after shareholders rejected a plan to pay out a special dividend, handing a victory to Thai billionaire Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi.

Charoen, who is trying to buy the remainder of F& N, opposed the dividend. He is offering US$7.3 billion for F& N, which also makes soft drinks, dairy products and owns real estate.

The approval of the sale to Heineken and Charoen’s success in keeping the proceeds with F& N could pave the way for him to take control of the conglomerate’s other assets. In winning Asia Pacific Breweries, Heineken gets a key beer business in emerging markets, where it lags competitors.

“There’s still that cloud of uncertainty for shareholders,” said Justin Harper, Singapore-based market strategist at IG Markets, referring to F& N investors. “Should they sell their shares now or wait to see what the Thais have in store for F& N going forward.”

Charoen set off an acquisition battle by agreeing to buy a stake in the conglomerate in July. Heineken responded with a bid for APB and in August raised the offer.


THAIS THREAT
Thai Beverage Pcl and TCC Assets, which are controlled by Charoen and have a 30.66% stake in F& N, had said they would vote against F& N’s plan to distribute $4 billion to shareholders from the sale to Heineken.

About 54% of shareholders rejected the plan to pay the dividend today. Almost 99% of shareholders approved the sale of Fraser & Neave’s stake in APB to the Dutch brewer at the meeting in Singapore.

F& N is open to making acquisitions for the beverage business and it will work with Thai Beverage to create new businesses together, Financial Controller Hui Choon Kit said at a press briefing today. Malaysia is the biggest market for the company’s beverage business and it may expand into Myanmar, Indonesia and Vietnam, he said.

The billionaire’s agreement to support Heineken’s offer for APB spurred speculation that he would break up F& N, a 129-year- old group.

TCC Assets plans to evaluate “strategic options” for F& N and will be a long-term holder, it said in offer documents sent to the Singapore stock exchange.

Charoen, who this month made a $9 billion offer to buy the rest of F& N, had pledged to back Heineken’s purchase of the brewer.

APB has rights to brew Bintang beer in Indonesia, Anchor in China, Southeast Asia and Sri Lanka, and Heineken from China to New Zealand. Heineken has the smallest emerging-markets presence of the world’s big three brewers, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
 
 
infancybird
    28-Sep-2012 14:54  
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Latest from Bloomberg this afternoon....good for thaibev longterm investors but not so for short term punter.

Kirin’s Investment

Japanese brewer Kirin Holdings Co. (2503), which owns 15 percent of F& N, will sell its stake in F& N for about 120 billion yen ($1.55 billion), Nikkei said today. Jun Sato, a spokesman for the Japanese brewer, said the company wasn’t the source of the report.

Kirin plans to sell its entire stake in F& N, probably to Thai Beverage, Nikkei reported without saying where it obtained the information. Kirin will use the proceeds of about 30 billion yen for acquisitions in emerging markets, Nikkei said.

“It would be good for them as they could use the money to rebuild their Australian and Brazilian businesses,” said Mikihiko Yamato, deputy head of research for JI Asia in Tokyo.

Kirin shares rose 0.2 percent to 1,041 yen as of 2.39 p.m. in Tokyo.

 

 
teeth53
    28-Sep-2012 14:44  
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THBEV very boring...ZZZzzzz. House Traders is program picking one lot by lot for now. May end unchanged @0.415 cents
 
 
teeth53
    28-Sep-2012 13:46  
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Their primary objective is make Thaibev higher profile n to make mkt watcher to take notice, they had done it after successful having bot OCBC stake. This help kick start Thbev up swing by mkt watchers, so  is the  taking over bid by Heineken and counter offer by Thaibeverage just to levelage on d momentum,, up the stake higher, knowingly Heineken got $.

As for price trading lower, it time for thaibeverage to settle down after the run up as players is abit tired liao.

jingsze91      ( Date: 28-Sep-2012 12:50) Posted:

but i still dont get why the drop today. shldnt it be good news?

 
 
teeth53
    28-Sep-2012 13:30  
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About kirin selling?. who don  1 2 to sell higher, hu money bo?. who 1 2 support buying $8.88?.

ThaiBev still got so much money to eat meh?. if it benefit to sell it to the highest bidder. $8.50 or just don sell yet?. OCBC is regreting.
 

 
teeth53
    28-Sep-2012 13:10  
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Thai Beverage. Mkt players got tried and is trying to push it higher, so is players try to let go.

Tat why is stag after it had run up, there are players trying to push it up. mkt just don't 1 2 hang on to it as today is Firday n Monday is a new day speculate again. 

jingsze91      ( Date: 28-Sep-2012 12:50) Posted:

but i still dont get why the drop today. shldnt it be good news?

 
 
jingsze91
    28-Sep-2012 12:50  
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but i still dont get why the drop today. shldnt it be good news?
 
 
teeth53
    28-Sep-2012 12:27  
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Thing such as players can make $$$, is good in stk trading and punting, it not a bad thing.

Bad B'cos players can't make $, overall both Heineken n ThaiBrev must be LOL to bank.

Round two who can control, will hav to lineup more money to fight...sooner then later.

x1uhu1      ( Date: 28-Sep-2012 12:21) Posted:

In the end is it a good or bad thing

 
 
x1uhu1
    28-Sep-2012 12:21  
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In the end is it a good or bad thing
 

 
teeth53
    28-Sep-2012 12:16  
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Heineken....is keen to hold APB brew together, while ThaiBrev has other thot.
 
 
sanuks
    28-Sep-2012 12:05  
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Update: F& N fails to get shareholder support for capital reduction


SINGAPORE - Singapore's Fraser and Neave Ltd (F& N) failed to get the required 75 per cent vote in favour of its plan to pay out S$4 billion (US$3.3 billion) to its shareholders after the sale of its beer business, Asia Pacific Breweries Ltd (APB), to Heineken NV.

About 54.3 per cent of shareholders voted in favour of the capital reduction plan, below the 75 per cent required for the proposal to go through.

F& N's biggest shareholders - companies linked to a Thai billionaire - had said earlier this week that they will vote against the capital reduction plan.

The Thai group, which owns a combined 30.7 per cent stake in F& N, has made a US$7.2 billion bid to take over the Singapore conglomerate, which also has interests in soft drinks, dairy products, property and publishing. -- REUTERS
 
 
sanuks
    28-Sep-2012 11:19  
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Business Times
F& N shareholders vote to sell Tiger beer maker to Heineken
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Heineken, already the owner of nearly 56 per cent of APB through an 81-year-old venture with F& N, is seeking full control of the brewer to benefit from Asia's fast-growing beer market -PHOTO: REUTERS


SINGAPORE - Shareholders of Singapore's Fraser and Neave Ltd (F& N) voted in favour of selling the conglomerate's beer business, Asia Pacific Breweries Ltd (APB), to Heineken NV in a US$6.3 billion deal.

The vote on Friday formally ends a two-month battle between Heineken and companies linked to Thai beer baron Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi for the control of the Tiger beer maker. The Thai firms, collectively the biggest shareholder of F& N, had previously offered to take over APB.

The approval was a formality after Mr Charoen's firms, including Thai Beverage PCL, said last week they would vote in favour of the sale of F& N's 40 per cent stake in APB to the Dutch brewer.

The Thai group, which owns a combined 30.7 per cent stake in F& N, is now making a US$7.2 billion bid to take over the Singapore conglomerate, which also has interests in soft drinks, dairy products, property and publishing.


 
 
 
WSCCCCCC
    28-Sep-2012 11:08  
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Start moving up?
 
 
sanuks
    28-Sep-2012 10:45  
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Latest:
10:12am


SINGAPORE/TOKYO - Japan's Kirin Holdings has not made a decision to sell its 15 per cent stake in Singapore's Fraser and Neave Ltd, but it is talking to the Thai group led by billionaire Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi, two sources with direct knowledge of the matter said.


 
 

 
WSCCCCCC
    28-Sep-2012 10:34  
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Ya, please keep update here for those who know earlier, thanks!

sanuks      ( Date: 28-Sep-2012 10:26) Posted:

Not yet. Please share when you get to know, thanks. 

WSCCCCCC      ( Date: 28-Sep-2012 10:20) Posted:

Any news yet for the Special General Meeting?


 
 
sanuks
    28-Sep-2012 10:26  
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Not yet. Please share when you get to know, thanks. 

WSCCCCCC      ( Date: 28-Sep-2012 10:20) Posted:

Any news yet for the Special General Meeting?

 
 
WSCCCCCC
    28-Sep-2012 10:20  
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Any news yet for the Special General Meeting?
 
 
sanuks
    28-Sep-2012 10:12  
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Trading @ 0.410 SGD Cents.
 
 
sanuks
    28-Sep-2012 10:06  
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Please read the CIMB report in regards to ThaiBev Target Price and the previous few posts.

From there, you will be able to find your answer. Good Luck!!!!


libraleong      ( Date: 28-Sep-2012 09:56) Posted:

Any advise can buy THAIBev now....Thanks

 
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