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pharoah88
    18-Aug-2010 15:49  
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Independent Director  who CHAIRED the EGM  is  also the PROXY of more than 2 Million shares held by funds, which VOTED  "GO".

jm2212      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 12:29) Posted:

attended the EGM, some small share holders not happy with no dividen pay out since day 1, also complained that the sales should not be in a hurry since uk operation is profitable, coupled with the exchange loss. anyway, their voices were heard but ultimate decision is still a GO.

benjitan      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 09:45) Posted:



Let your head rule, not your heart, do not get emotional. Sudden change of price (sliding down yesterday) is normal, due to many reason - profit taking, fear, some people just love to short plus historical behaviour of this counter. When there is fear, it means good time to buy for some people.

Let your head rule, not your heart.

Today EGM @ 10am. If the resolution of the Proposed Divestment of UK Casino Operations is passed, it is a good thing for Genting SP (Spore).

But of course, Genting Msia is expected to slide, as it is the purchaser.


 
 
pharoah88
    18-Aug-2010 15:43  
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Genting Singapore will cOllect

S$688 Million  CASH  from  the  Interested Party's Arms' Length  Divestment.

Together with its more than S$500 Million of CASH  from its 2Q 2010 Operations Earnings,

Genting Singapore would have more S$1 Billion CASH  in its banks.

That means,  it  can  afford  to  REPAY  One Quarter of  its S$4 Billion plus  loans.

Its First Loan Repayment will be due in 2011.

Assuming Genting Singapore  earning  another S$500 Million  CASH  in 3Q 2010  as well as  S$500 Million CASH in 4Q 2010,  S1 Billion CASH  will add onto its current CASH  BALANCE  over the next  6 months by end  December 2010.

Genting Singapore is now CASH  RICH.

Another shareholder   questioned  on  further  investment   in  Philippines, Taiwan, JAPAN.

Genting Management  would FOCUS  all ATTENTION  on  RWS  until  all  product  developments are FULLY  COMPLETED  by  end  2012.

There  is  POSSIBILITY  of  DIVIDEND  Payment  only when  ALL  PRODUCT  DEVELOPMENTS are FULLY COMPLETED.  That is, BY LAW dividend payment  can only start from 2013.    



noonelikeme      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 12:34) Posted:

am i right to say that Genting SP will see red in its financial worksheet due to the transfer of funds to UK casino? 

jm2212      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 12:29) Posted:

attended the EGM, some small share holders not happy with no dividen pay out since day 1, also complained that the sales should not be in a hurry since uk operation is profitable, coupled with the exchange loss. anyway, their voices were heard but ultimate decision is still a GO


 
 
pharoah88
    18-Aug-2010 15:27  
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Monday: 16 AUGUST 2010  1:00pm

XO CIMB Seminar on Genitng Singapore Outlook 2010

CIMB  collected  ALL  ANALYSTS'  2010 Year End TARGETS

HIGHEST  is  S$2.40.



limkt009      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 11:14) Posted:



This must be the highest TP from analyst.


 18 Aug 2010 07:31 MPST *DJ Genting Singapore Target Raised To S$2.02 From S$1.52 By UBS

 

 
pharoah88
    18-Aug-2010 15:22  
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Genting Malaysia:

¨       Gets outstanding approvals for US racino.

¨       Maintain fair value for GM at RM3.00 and Market Perform recommendation.

 
 
alexchia01
    18-Aug-2010 12:58  
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Today is a Good Day to Short Genting SP.

Genting SP now trading at $1.54.

1. Genting SP made 2 Gap ups on 13 and 16 Aug. Theoretically, it should come down to fill these gaps before heading up again.

2. Price hit its trend channel top of $1.58 and have a long way down to its bottom of $1.15.

3. MACD is off the chart. It's so high and overstretch that would pull back within the next few days.

4. Stochastic is in overbrought region. High risk for buying, but good to take profit or going short.

5. RSI is also in overbrought region.

This is my just personal analysis. Don't take it too seriously.

Please note that I hold short position for couple of days to weeks, if you can't do this, then this recommendation is not for you.

Good luck to all.


 
 
noonelikeme
    18-Aug-2010 12:34  
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am i right to say that Genting SP will see red in its financial worksheet due to the transfer of funds to UK casino? 

jm2212      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 12:29) Posted:

attended the EGM, some small share holders not happy with no dividen pay out since day 1, also complained that the sales should not be in a hurry since uk operation is profitable, coupled with the exchange loss. anyway, their voices were heard but ultimate decision is still a GO.

benjitan      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 09:45) Posted:



Let your head rule, not your heart, do not get emotional. Sudden change of price (sliding down yesterday) is normal, due to many reason - profit taking, fear, some people just love to short plus historical behaviour of this counter. When there is fear, it means good time to buy for some people.

Let your head rule, not your heart.

Today EGM @ 10am. If the resolution of the Proposed Divestment of UK Casino Operations is passed, it is a good thing for Genting SP (Spore).

But of course, Genting Msia is expected to slide, as it is the purchaser.


 

 
jm2212
    18-Aug-2010 12:29  
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attended the EGM, some small share holders not happy with no dividen pay out since day 1, also complained that the sales should not be in a hurry since uk operation is profitable, coupled with the exchange loss. anyway, their voices were heard but ultimate decision is still a GO.

benjitan      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 09:45) Posted:



Let your head rule, not your heart, do not get emotional. Sudden change of price (sliding down yesterday) is normal, due to many reason - profit taking, fear, some people just love to short plus historical behaviour of this counter. When there is fear, it means good time to buy for some people.

Let your head rule, not your heart.

Today EGM @ 10am. If the resolution of the Proposed Divestment of UK Casino Operations is passed, it is a good thing for Genting SP (Spore).

But of course, Genting Msia is expected to slide, as it is the purchaser.

 
 
limkt009
    18-Aug-2010 11:14  
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This must be the highest TP from analyst.


 18 Aug 2010 07:31 MPST *DJ Genting Singapore Target Raised To S$2.02 From S$1.52 By UBS
 
 
loyfam88
    18-Aug-2010 10:12  
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Sounds like a left pocket to right pocket to me.

But maybe the corporate tax is more favorable in Singapore so they are doing that do. So we should see better results from Genting SP.



benjitan      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 09:45) Posted:



Let your head rule, not your heart, do not get emotional. Sudden change of price (sliding down yesterday) is normal, due to many reason - profit taking, fear, some people just love to short plus historical behaviour of this counter. When there is fear, it means good time to buy for some people.

Let your head rule, not your heart.

Today EGM @ 10am. If the resolution of the Proposed Divestment of UK Casino Operations is passed, it is a good thing for Genting SP (Spore).

But of course, Genting Msia is expected to slide, as it is the purchaser.

 
 
hpong5
    18-Aug-2010 09:48  
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no wonder went up now...haha

iPunter      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 09:43) Posted:

This is fact.

     the more such people like him there are,

           the more the casino will prosper...

                Whereras, if no one loses, or people only lose small,

                     the casino might as well close down... Smiley



candle      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 09:30) Posted:



genting needs many of these customers

 


 

 
niuyear
    18-Aug-2010 09:46  
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We sounded we are very 'black hearted'.  but, one should know his/her limits  before entering  the casinos.

iPunter      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 09:43) Posted:

This is fact.

     the more such people like him there are,

           the more the casino will prosper...

                Whereras, if no one loses, or people only lose small,

                     the casino might as well close down... Smiley



candle      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 09:30) Posted:



genting needs many of these customers

 


 
 
benjitan
    18-Aug-2010 09:45  
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Let your head rule, not your heart, do not get emotional. Sudden change of price (sliding down yesterday) is normal, due to many reason - profit taking, fear, some people just love to short plus historical behaviour of this counter. When there is fear, it means good time to buy for some people.

Let your head rule, not your heart.

Today EGM @ 10am. If the resolution of the Proposed Divestment of UK Casino Operations is passed, it is a good thing for Genting SP (Spore).

But of course, Genting Msia is expected to slide, as it is the purchaser.
 
 
iPunter
    18-Aug-2010 09:43  
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This is fact.

     the more such people like him there are,

           the more the casino will prosper...

                Whereras, if no one loses, or people only lose small,

                     the casino might as well close down... Smiley



candle      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 09:30) Posted:



genting needs many of these customers

 

 
 
Hulumas
    18-Aug-2010 09:42  
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False at the last sentence!

iPunter      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 09:17) Posted:



It's easy even for any ordinary person to lose his house...

      When a person is losing, he will always want to win back what he has lost...

             He will be happy just to break even.


                  This not only happens at casinos,

                        but also commonly in the stock market too... Smiley



 
 
hlfoo2010
    18-Aug-2010 09:40  
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Difficult to belief Conrad Raj know so details the story?????

niuyear      ( Date: 18-Aug-2010 09:25) Posted:




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Local businessman loses $26m at RWS casino over 3 days

by Conrad Raj

05:55 AM Aug 18, 2010

Dont blame the casino if one gambles 'based on credit line'


 

 
limkt009
    18-Aug-2010 09:34  
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you are right, $26m is charged directly into the bottom line. 
 
 
candle
    18-Aug-2010 09:30  
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genting needs many of these customers

 
 
 
niuyear
    18-Aug-2010 09:25  
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x 0

Local businessman loses $26m at RWS casino over 3 days

by Conrad Raj

05:55 AM Aug 18, 2010

Dont blame the casino if one gambles 'based on credit line'

 
 
iPunter
    18-Aug-2010 09:17  
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It's easy even for any ordinary person to lose his house...

      When a person is losing, he will always want to win back what he has lost...

             He will be happy just to break even.


                  This not only happens at casinos,

                        but also commonly in the stock market too... Smiley


 
 
tchoonw
    18-Aug-2010 08:18  
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Local businessman loses $26m at RWS casino over 3 days

by Conrad Raj

05:55 AM Aug 18, 2010

Today Exclusive



SINGAPORE - In what is said to be one of the biggest losses yet at a Singapore casino, a local businessman lost $26.3 million over three days of gambling in June. This included a staggering $18 million that he burned in one day alone, playing baccarat - a card game - at $400,000 a hand.

According to documents that Today has obtained, the businessman's tale of woe began in March, just weeks after Resorts World Sentosa (RWS) opened, when he was granted a credit line of $500,000 by the casino.

The Singaporean, who is consulting a top local law firm about possible legal action against the casino, claimed that the casino at no time performed any background checks on his credit-worthiness or his financial capacity. He had simply filled in an application form, deposited $100,000 and handed over a signed blank cheque, he claimed.

Subsequently, in April, the casino increased his credit line to $2 million, he told his lawyers. In his 50s, the businessman is a managing director of a multi-million-dollar company.

Over the weeks, he reportedly won or lost several hundred thousand dollars each time he visited the casino, with his losses running as high as $6 million in the course of a single session. To draw on his credit line, he said, he signed a form and was given the requisite amount of chips.

In early June, he made his biggest loss of $18 million yet in one session. Two days later, he went back to the casino and recouped some $3.7 million - but then two days after, he lost a further $11 million.

At one point during this third session when his losses crossed the $4-million mark, so the businessman claimed, his girlfriend started crying and pleaded with one of RWS' senior officers to stop providing him with more chips on credit.

The same officer, he claimed, had repeatedly assured him over the course of the gambling sessions that the casino was prepared to extend him further credit, even though his limit had long since been exceeded.

Of his $26.3 million loss, the businessman repaid $10 million almost immediately.

The businessman claims to have then met with RWS chief executive Tan Yee Teck, who offered him a "rolling figure" - which amounts to a discount - of $3.3 million.

According to the legal documents, dated July 22, the gambler owed RWS some $13 million at that point in time. It is unknown if the debt has since been settled.

When contacted, an RWS spokesperson said the group does not comment on its customers.

The businessman's lawyers have advised him to explore if an amicable resolution can be reached with the casino. But they also think he may have a case of negligence, breach of contract or breach of statutory duty against the casino.

Under the Casino Control (Credit) Regulations, an operator who enters into a credit agreement with a patron should, apart from specifying a credit limit, develop and implement criteria to assess the patron's creditworthiness. The operator must also have approval procedures for any increase in the credit limit.

In the lawyers' view, by substantially exceeding their client's earlier limits - by more than 60 times the original limit of $500,000, and 15 times the April limit of $2 million within a few hours to enable him to continue gambling "RWS had encouraged irresponsible gambling and had breached the duty of care owed to" the businessman.

RWS' conduct of continuing to pile on credit effectively rendered the concept of a credit limit meaningless, the lawyers argued. This was more so as the person in question was not in the proper frame of mind to decide on the increases, they said.

In other countries, there have been several instances of patrons suing casinos for their losses, cases which the courts have dismissed. Courts in other jurisdictions have noted among other things, that the casino was not bound to protect a gambler from his desire to wager his wealth.

Despite this, the Senior Counsel from the local law firm recommended writing to RWS. "In the letter, the issues concerning RWS' failure to promote responsible gambling ... can be raised. Hopefully, this may encourage RWS to offer a haircut that would be acceptable to you ..." he wrote.

Genting Singapore's turned in a sterling net profit of $397 million for the quarter ended June 30, compared to a loss of $50.7 million a year ago. Revenues rose to $979 million from $120 million a year ago.

According to DMG Research, at the current rate, Singapore is already the second largest casino market in Asia after Macau, and could overtake the Las Vegas strip as the second largest casino market in the world after Macau in the next two to three years. The firm estimates that the two casinos here rake in over $16 million a day.


 

 
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