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guoyanyunyan
    15-Jul-2013 10:59  
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VARD - 2Q13 Results Marred By Loss-Making Brazil Unit

VARD's NOK20m net loss in 2Q13 was sharply below estimates, weighed down by its Brazil yards. At a results briefing, Management provided little clarity on margins and potential of more losses in Brazil. As our model now assumes zero profit on all existing jobs in Brazil, we cut our FY13-15F EPS by 22%-40%. Maintain BUY, with a lower SGD1.10 TP, based on 10x FY14F EPS. These put the stock at 10.1x FY13F P/E and 7.4x FY14F P/E.
  • Brazil operation in the red. VARD saw a bigger 2Q13 net loss of NOK20m, a nearly ~NOK300m swing from a net profit of NOK279m in 2Q12. The much lower 1H13 NOK168m net profit (-69% y-o-y) comprised only 22%-23% of our and consensus estimates respectively.The letdown was primarily due to losses from VARD Niterói, higher outsourcing costs and higher start-up expenses at VARD Promar. Meanwhile, 2Q13's EBITDA margin stood at 4.1% while VARD also took a NOK70m goodwill writedown on Niterói. Assuming stable profits at its Norway/Romania yards, total losses in Brazil for 2Q13 may range from NOK180 to NOK200m. Based on its minority interest, VARD's share of loss from Promar was NOK24m in 2Q13 and NOK8m in 1Q13.
  • Little guidance on margins and further provisions. Management's  tone was cautious during the briefing. The key takeaways are: i) no  margin guidance ii) the absence of a guarantee that this would be the end of the losses in Brazil iii) Management highlighted that all provisions made are based on best estimates as of today iv) order outlook remains strong v) YTD orders have hit NOK3.9bn - at 33% of our forecast - while the outlook for more orders in 2H13 is positive.
  • FY13-14F EPS estimates cut by 40% and 22%. We now estimate zero  margin for the remaining four OSVs and first four LNG tankers to be built in Brazil. We expect blended EBITDA margins of 7.5%/9.1% for FY13F/14F as we think the Brazil operation will continue to weigh down on margins in the medium term.
  • TP cut from SGD1.69 to SGD1.10 on 10x FY14F P/E. We roll forward  our valuation from FY13 to FY14 and lower our target P/E from 12x to 10x to reflect the mounting operating challenges in Brazil. 


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Peter_Pan
    15-Jul-2013 10:56  
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Yah lor...better listen to my COO Ong

GorgeousOng      ( Date: 15-Jul-2013 10:53) Posted:

Boss, let it stabilize first! Hoot later!!! Cheers!!!

Peter_Pan      ( Date: 15-Jul-2013 10:37) Posted:

Wah...i keep averaging down...so scary now...lol


 
 
GorgeousOng
    15-Jul-2013 10:53  
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Boss, let it stabilize first! Hoot later!!! Cheers!!!

Peter_Pan      ( Date: 15-Jul-2013 10:37) Posted:

Wah...i keep averaging down...so scary now...lol

 

 
Peter_Pan
    15-Jul-2013 10:43  
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I think a lot of force-selling going on....
 
 
Peter_Pan
    15-Jul-2013 10:37  
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Wah...i keep averaging down...so scary now...lol
 
 
WanSiTong
    15-Jul-2013 10:32  
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Still early ! The show is not over yet !!

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 15-Jul-2013 10:03) Posted:

Yeap, what else can I say? At least based on my analysis I feel can buy that's why I buy.. I buy le now like this, I have to eat my own humble pie lo.. As long as you got holding power nothing to be scared of also.. Why it can break when the support is so strong, I am equally puzzled also. Butmaybe, you know I know la.. Cheers!!

eurekaw      ( Date: 15-Jul-2013 09:56) Posted:

$0.83 support broken down.


 

 
eurekaw
    15-Jul-2013 10:31  
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Not blaming you, no worries. Cheers!! 

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 15-Jul-2013 10:03) Posted:

Yeap, what else can I say? At least based on my analysis I feel can buy that's why I buy.. I buy le now like this, I have to eat my own humble pie lo.. As long as you got holding power nothing to be scared of also.. Why it can break when the support is so strong, I am equally puzzled also. Butmaybe, you know I know la.. Cheers!!

eurekaw      ( Date: 15-Jul-2013 09:56) Posted:

$0.83 support broken down.


 
 
GorgeousOng
    15-Jul-2013 10:23  
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Oh oh got to delay Brazil vacation!!!
 
 
Peter_Pan
    15-Jul-2013 10:15  
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Aiyo....early morning TUA LAO SAI!!!
 
 
SFGuyRuleZ
    15-Jul-2013 10:03  
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Yeap, what else can I say? At least based on my analysis I feel can buy that's why I buy.. I buy le now like this, I have to eat my own humble pie lo.. As long as you got holding power nothing to be scared of also.. Why it can break when the support is so strong, I am equally puzzled also. Butmaybe, you know I know la.. Cheers!!

eurekaw      ( Date: 15-Jul-2013 09:56) Posted:

$0.83 support broken down.

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 07:31) Posted:



Based on my own close monitoring of the price movement and analysis these past 2 days:

1) BBs are accumulating (Why? They see the long term prospects and value of this company and if they don't start to collect cheap at price of 80 cents  range, they probably can never get such a cheap bargain again).

2) Chart wise, we see clearly an inverted hammer (the bulls and bears are in a tug of war and bears manage to only drive down the price by merely 0.005 from opening price => bears are losing strength and bulls will take over soon).

3) Again, chart wise, we see a rare bullish white/black harami during a persistent downtrend. The black candle with a small body but within the white candle stick shows that consolidation is taking place. From what I have learnt and my own humble experiences throughout these years, white/black harami in a downtrend means that a very bullish reversal is going to occur soon.

4)0.83 support has been tested 2 times and not able to break. Thursday and Friday test 0.835 again 2 times also cannot break.

5)The loss this quarter though unexpected, is relatively small and at most one-time in my opinion. If one feels that the losses will be persistent and becomes even greater, by all means offload and sell cuz the fundamentals may have changed then in this aspect. But market's reaction to the loss this quarter as seen from Friday is rather mild, negligible if compared to how market reacts when the profit guidance comes out.Based on my humble analysis, the price looks more like it will rally soon instead of drop. Let's see if I am correct. As long as one have the holding power, I am pretty sure we will see a strong price rebound soon. Lastly, don't take me for all my words. Do your own due diligence. Have an enjoyable Saturday and a great weekend. Won't reply for the weekend. Cheers!! Smiley


 

 
eurekaw
    15-Jul-2013 09:56  
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$0.83 support broken down.

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 13-Jul-2013 07:31) Posted:



Based on my own close monitoring of the price movement and analysis these past 2 days:

1) BBs are accumulating (Why? They see the long term prospects and value of this company and if they don't start to collect cheap at price of 80 cents  range, they probably can never get such a cheap bargain again).

2) Chart wise, we see clearly an inverted hammer (the bulls and bears are in a tug of war and bears manage to only drive down the price by merely 0.005 from opening price => bears are losing strength and bulls will take over soon).

3) Again, chart wise, we see a rare bullish white/black harami during a persistent downtrend. The black candle with a small body but within the white candle stick shows that consolidation is taking place. From what I have learnt and my own humble experiences throughout these years, white/black harami in a downtrend means that a very bullish reversal is going to occur soon.

4)0.83 support has been tested 2 times and not able to break. Thursday and Friday test 0.835 again 2 times also cannot break.

5)The loss this quarter though unexpected, is relatively small and at most one-time in my opinion. If one feels that the losses will be persistent and becomes even greater, by all means offload and sell cuz the fundamentals may have changed then in this aspect. But market's reaction to the loss this quarter as seen from Friday is rather mild, negligible if compared to how market reacts when the profit guidance comes out.Based on my humble analysis, the price looks more like it will rally soon instead of drop. Let's see if I am correct. As long as one have the holding power, I am pretty sure we will see a strong price rebound soon. Lastly, don't take me for all my words. Do your own due diligence. Have an enjoyable Saturday and a great weekend. Won't reply for the weekend. Cheers!! Smiley

 
 
halleluyah
    15-Jul-2013 08:24  
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Dik, pagi. Tks... sudah. Huat arh !!

GorgeousOng      ( Date: 15-Jul-2013 05:32) Posted:

Sis, selamat pagi! Lagi satu PM.pagi ini, baca yah! Cheers!

halleluyah      ( Date: 14-Jul-2013 23:50) Posted:

Dik, baca pm. Selamat malam....esok untung banyak banyak macam gunung yah.


 
 
GorgeousOng
    15-Jul-2013 05:32  
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Sis, selamat pagi! Lagi satu PM.pagi ini, baca yah! Cheers!

halleluyah      ( Date: 14-Jul-2013 23:50) Posted:

Dik, baca pm. Selamat malam....esok untung banyak banyak macam gunung yah.

 
 
Polarbear55
    15-Jul-2013 00:31  
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It's Summer sale for now : 0.865-0.90. Cheers! :)
 
 
halleluyah
    14-Jul-2013 23:50  
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Dik, baca pm. Selamat malam....esok untung banyak banyak macam gunung yah.
 

 
jomini
    14-Jul-2013 22:18  
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hoping to use it as a reference point. tape reading.

no worries then

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 14-Jul-2013 22:07) Posted:

I believe my own stop loss, whether even have or not, is something very personal, as I have my own time horizon, capital, judgement, etc... Why do you want to know about my personal stuff??  Smiley

jomini      ( Date: 14-Jul-2013 21:58) Posted:



chill. no emotional charge to word losers. if u lose money u re a loser. loser vs winner. im a loser often too. dont take it personally.

greater fool is a common term in mkt. u re a fool to buy high but u re alright if u buy higher

so where's ur stoploss


 
 
SFGuyRuleZ
    14-Jul-2013 22:07  
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I believe my own stop loss, whether even have or not, is something very personal, as I have my own time horizon, capital, judgement, etc... Why do you want to know about my personal stuff??  Smiley

jomini      ( Date: 14-Jul-2013 21:58) Posted:



chill. no emotional charge to word losers. if u lose money u re a loser. loser vs winner. im a loser often too. dont take it personally.

greater fool is a common term in mkt. u re a fool to buy high but u re alright if u buy higher

so where's ur stoploss?

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 14-Jul-2013 21:40) Posted:

By using emotional words like " losers" and " fools" , you already  contradict yourself. You have to preach what you say just now to yourself more than anyone else. Everything I typed here is based on facts and my own technical analysis. I may be wrong, and that's why we fellow forum members can always disuss openly and healthily. I feel for myself, I am correct and that's why I vested even more at 0.835. I didn't encourage anyone else to follow me. Ultimately, I also said that market will decide for itself whether it is bearish or bullish. You gotta relax, for like what you said, " mkt requires cold calculation not emotion" . Don't just say, please practise!! =)


 
 
Stormer
    14-Jul-2013 21:59  
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I will hoot if it goes below 0.80.
Wish all vested huat.
 
 
jomini
    14-Jul-2013 21:58  
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chill. no emotional charge to word losers. if u lose money u re a loser. loser vs winner. im a loser often too. dont take it personally.

greater fool is a common term in mkt. u re a fool to buy high but u re alright if u buy higher

so where's ur stoploss?

SFGuyRuleZ      ( Date: 14-Jul-2013 21:40) Posted:

By using emotional words like " losers" and " fools" , you already  contradict yourself. You have to preach what you say just now to yourself more than anyone else. Everything I typed here is based on facts and my own technical analysis. I may be wrong, and that's why we fellow forum members can always disuss openly and healthily. I feel for myself, I am correct and that's why I vested even more at 0.835. I didn't encourage anyone else to follow me. Ultimately, I also said that market will decide for itself whether it is bearish or bullish. You gotta relax, for like what you said, " mkt requires cold calculation not emotion" . Don't just say, please practise!! =)


jomini      ( Date: 14-Jul-2013 21:27) Posted:



gotta chill. the mkt requires cold calculation not emotion

the losers love using those words when they re in red n hoping tt some greater fool comes along to bail them out n hold e bag for the


 
 
warrenbegger
    14-Jul-2013 21:58  
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If u think the horse can run, just ride on it.

If u think the horse is injure, just let it rest.

If u force the horse too much, it will injure both.

The key is, ride when the horse had recover, rather than killing it.

After it recover, times will tell, whether the horse u ride is a good one, or a dying one..



*There r no right or wrong at this moment, but times will tell whether u r  right or wrong in the end    :)
 
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