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sgng123
    22-Dec-2012 15:00  
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don matter much 1 jan or 15 jan . the PSS would not help in 2012 result as it would be only reflected in 1Q13.

This is funny, 2012 Peak season surcharge filter into 1Q2013 together with 3Q 2013 PSS, nol trying to engineering turnaround

result lol. The army col ceo ng is very scheming, adding lot of profit into 2013 to make it look good on Temasek balance sheet.

They would announce NOL make XXX mil in 2013 but actually half of  it is from 2012 through nol building sale + PSS delay.

Beauty of temasek controlled company, they always engineering their result to make it look good on market and easy to answer to singaporean lol.
 
 
ynnek1267
    22-Dec-2012 10:49  
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sgng123
    21-Dec-2012 21:28  
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that the point, GOP leader lose control and command on his conservative members.

Just be democratic and called for bill vote on obama plan, just need 27 moderate  GOP to say yah the deal is done.

Winner take all even if they win by a whisker, america politics lol

The tea party can go barking somewhere else lol

Wasting everyone time to trade while they trying to act tough lol.

Second biggest shareholder DBS with 4% holding is calling a buy on NOL with TP 1.46 now lot of brokerage put a buy on counter but

stupid US fiscal cliff big uncertainty on stock market, noone dared to go in to trade.... all waiting this is very frustrating lol hand iching but must endure.
 

 
ynnek1267
    21-Dec-2012 17:45  
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Ya loh, so Malu.

What plan B? If obama really accept it, today meeting result will be a joke totally.

If cannot represent, just agree anything loh.

sgng123      ( Date: 21-Dec-2012 17:41) Posted:



Freight rate in a way more or less remain stable in 2013.

Rate go down, GRI jack it up, rate go down again, gri jack it up rinse and repeat.

Monthly GRI is expected to maintain the rate stability, getting boring looking at rate since it is more or less predictable.

3.5 trading days for next 2 weeks since holiday eve and holiday all fall on mon and tues, good for taking super long weekend leave/mc.

Trading volume would be very thin till 2nd week of 2013, then it fun time for trading.

The US drama is funny, GOP leader got screwed over by his own members lol, now he cannot black mail the democratic. he might even had

to ask democratic for help to pass legistration in congress in the future lol. too many hardcore tea party conservatives in GOP.

 
 
sgng123
    21-Dec-2012 17:41  
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Freight rate in a way more or less remain stable in 2013.

Rate go down, GRI jack it up, rate go down again, gri jack it up rinse and repeat.

Monthly GRI is expected to maintain the rate stability, getting boring looking at rate since it is more or less predictable.

3.5 trading days for next 2 weeks since holiday eve and holiday all fall on mon and tues, good for taking super long weekend leave/mc.

Trading volume would be very thin till 2nd week of 2013, then it fun time for trading.

The US drama is funny, GOP leader got screwed over by his own members lol, now he cannot black mail the democratic. he might even had

to ask democratic for help to pass legistration in congress in the future lol. too many hardcore tea party conservatives in GOP.
 
 
ynnek1267
    21-Dec-2012 15:13  
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This week Shanghai Containerised freight rate drop from 1171.98 to 1146.46, -25.34.

The freigh rate surcharge only last for a week, this week start dropping.

No vested.
 

 
davidscs
    21-Dec-2012 14:22  
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Trading records shows several sell down greater than 100lots, largest is 300 lots at 9.19am.... selling above 100 lots is still consistently completed in the last couple of hours. Players taking profit, buy up are mainly small retail players who may be buying based on lagging information.... NOL should see pressure with the fiscal cliff bottle nexk issues till Jan 2013.
 
 
davidscs
    21-Dec-2012 13:58  
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Next few days till the congress meet again in Jan will see NOL decline again.......... ST players take profit !!!

   
 
 
sgng123
    21-Dec-2012 12:30  
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don need to join US bourse cos they charge capital gain on profit made from share.

Just punt NOL can already since it is a sentiment/cyclinal stock +/-30% up or down

67% nol share controlled by temasek = big share movement by investment traders playing behalf for temasek.

NOL share price is dictated by Temasek lol, if they want to push it sky high or drop it to abyss level, noone can stop/prevent.

Anyway Temasek is using singapore reserve/CPF money to play so don matter much if they losing or making profit, just doing their jobs still get bonus/pay.

Just play with the wind/herd mentality, u can make money very easy to understand. No need for hardcore understanding of stock

fundamental since it don matter much in unregulated  container shipping industry. Rate is dictated by liner carriers not by market demand

as seen in 6 GRI implemented this year, all gri get through 50-80% even there is no demand.

By the way there is another huge GRI 600-800 for US  and GRI 350 for europe in 15jan13, guess both would get through as usual..
 
 
WallStreet3
    21-Dec-2012 09:48  
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then u r in the wrong market. Singapore Stocks are not volatile enough for you to do so. Maybe you should try Dow Jones or Nasdaq. Volatile enough to do that.

sgng123      ( Date: 20-Dec-2012 19:14) Posted:



I don buy stock bro, i trade stock. Contra business get in and out fast. T+3days

When stock is over priced then i short it.

Don tell me u buy stock and keep that is so 1990 ish, nowaday it contra or short.

Short term trading = trade on sentiment trend very simple.

NOL trade trend now is up and up so i don short go in when time is right then get out fast earn some money. Hit and run strategy.

But currently still wait and see mode till US fiscal cliff over and BB do their position. Patience is the key to prosperity.

 

 
sgng123
    20-Dec-2012 19:14  
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I don buy stock bro, i trade stock. Contra business get in and out fast. T+3days

When stock is over priced then i short it.

Don tell me u buy stock and keep that is so 1990 ish, nowaday it contra or short.

Short term trading = trade on sentiment trend very simple.

NOL trade trend now is up and up so i don short go in when time is right then get out fast earn some money. Hit and run strategy.

But currently still wait and see mode till US fiscal cliff over and BB do their position. Patience is the key to prosperity.
 
 
WallStreet3
    20-Dec-2012 16:08  
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You didnt learn from Wall Street the movie? 

You buy stocks based on sentimental play ?

Rule # 1: Don't get too emotional over stocks : )  

sgng123      ( Date: 20-Dec-2012 14:05) Posted:



Bro it the sentiment play.

When analyst upgrade stock , it create a feel good effect. Or u rather like what happen to olam, muddy water openly fire saying they would going

to short it and ask the whole market to follow, causing stock price to crash for no reason.

NOL is sentimental, cyclidal play, noone invest in it except BB. Everyone is either trade or short take ur pick.

Price movement depend a lot on big players moves, rumours, economic data etc. basic stock fundamental don work in nol play.

Why nol sell building cos it is common sense to sell high and buy low, property is high now but would mostly likely crash in 2015, good divestment.

BB play up/down NOL shares to make money out of market , push up share rapidly to trap shortist then sell down share to kill off contra.

In summary NOL trade/short is not for the faint heart, if u cannot take +/-30% in share movement better keep money in bank.

NOL is aka casino stock either u make it or lose it lol crazy stock.

 
 
sgng123
    20-Dec-2012 14:05  
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Bro it the sentiment play.

When analyst upgrade stock , it create a feel good effect. Or u rather like what happen to olam, muddy water openly fire saying they would going

to short it and ask the whole market to follow, causing stock price to crash for no reason.

NOL is sentimental, cyclidal play, noone invest in it except BB. Everyone is either trade or short take ur pick.

Price movement depend a lot on big players moves, rumours, economic data etc. basic stock fundamental don work in nol play.

Why nol sell building cos it is common sense to sell high and buy low, property is high now but would mostly likely crash in 2015, good divestment.

BB play up/down NOL shares to make money out of market , push up share rapidly to trap shortist then sell down share to kill off contra.

In summary NOL trade/short is not for the faint heart, if u cannot take +/-30% in share movement better keep money in bank.

NOL is aka casino stock either u make it or lose it lol crazy stock.
 
 
WallStreet3
    20-Dec-2012 12:35  
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1. you like to see only the positive side of things (which is pretty macro-economics style)?

2.   rule # 2 , do not listen too much to analysts call to (buy, hold, outperform). if goodies , the will keep quiet. when ready to offload, then....perhaps.....

3. why makes me ponder is why is NOL contemplating to sell off its flagship building and thinking of leasing it in Metropolis instead ?

first thought is : they need cash urgently

4. u talk about macro economics, when economy is good, OIL prices shoots up ! yes, you can try bunker surcharge , GRI..etc....but when annual reports, you will notice common response like this " REVENUE goes up, but profits etc etc due to high fuel costs etc etc...."

LOOK, even mrt , sbs are saying profits etc etc due to HIGH fuel costs ..... transport companies like airlines, shipping lines .....even land transport, what are their main cost expense ?

On the MORE POSITIVE SIDE, (to be fair), you can consider NOL because it is GOVT-linked.  

sgng123      ( Date: 20-Dec-2012 12:18) Posted:



DBS had upgrade NOL to a buy with TP 1.45. Now all brokerage house had issued a buy on nol in 2013 lol. Last holding brokerage DBS give in and everyone is shouting buy on nol lol. Those TP is based off 1.0 to 1.1 P/B still very conservative as NOL can trade up to 1.4 - 1.6 when economy recover.

Obama and GOP political game would prolong till christmas then one would had to concede so sit tight for a few more days. Daylight soon for NOL

share.

 
 
sgng123
    20-Dec-2012 12:18  
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DBS had upgrade NOL to a buy with TP 1.45. Now all brokerage house had issued a buy on nol in 2013 lol. Last holding brokerage DBS give in and everyone is shouting buy on nol lol. Those TP is based off 1.0 to 1.1 P/B still very conservative as NOL can trade up to 1.4 - 1.6 when economy recover.

Obama and GOP political game would prolong till christmas then one would had to concede so sit tight for a few more days. Daylight soon for NOL

share.
 

 
sgng123
    20-Dec-2012 11:29  
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this i agreed bro, too much austerity in europe. world economy is built on basic of over indulge in spending to create demand which in turn

create jobs. In short to keep the economy going, money need to be burned at fast rate else fire die out.  US Fed Reserve understand the logic

and carried out unlimited QE to keep the fire burning.  Soon you start to see rich people pulling out of safe haven and start piling into  growth stock when

the US fiscal cliff resolved as they also understand the logic mentioned. Economist is too naive to think asia can continue to grow where developed

countries go into austerity, we all go down if last standing spend thrift US go into recession. today lot of  retail shortists got ass short changed by house trader if u noticed the trading pattern lol.   

harley22ez      ( Date: 20-Dec-2012 09:17) Posted:



rates into europe will surel y collapse bro ...big time. due to excess space as per alphaliner below.

 

usa rates would be better  

sgng123      ( Date: 19-Dec-2012 19:19) Posted:



old news already bro.

The newest GRI US 600 for West coast US and 800 for other destination. Asia - Europe need a bigger GRI not to lose out to US trade route never mind

low demand. It is now take it or leave it carrier dictated market lol. This kind of abnormality always happen after a rate war and retailers under cutting liner profit. Sooner or later exporters would cry foul and beg for mercy, this kind of shit happen every few years that people become numb to it. It is a repeat of 2009 ~2010 all over again. Checked out tomorrow house traders would start to buy back shares they sold these 3 days and take out the shortists again...


 
 
New123
    20-Dec-2012 10:53  
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NOL is breaking out tdy. Cosco will follow soon
 
 
davidscs
    20-Dec-2012 10:52  
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ILA Talks at a Standstill Over Royalties

“I think we’ll be on strike,” ILA President Harold Daggett said after federally mediated negotiations broke off amid disagreements over carrier-paid container royalties that provide annual payouts to ILA workers.

The current contract, already extended once past its original Sept. 30 expiration, is set to expire Dec. 29. ILA wage-scale delegates voted last week to authorize Daggett to call a strike if there was no agreement by Dec. 29.

Daggett said last week he would call off a threatened strike if negotiators could work out a deal on carrier-paid container royalties, which provide annual payouts to ILA members.

Dave Adam, executive vice president of USMX, said employers agreed Tuesday to a federal mediator’s proposal that the parties return Jan. 7 after the holidays to begin two weeks of intensive negotiations.

The ILA proposed a contract extension to Feb. 1 — but insisted that USMX maintain the status quo on container royalties, something employers said was unacceptable.

At that point, the negotiations broke off.

“I told them they have until Dec. 29 to call me, and we’ll talk,” Daggett said. “Otherwise, at one minute past midnight on the (night of the) 29th, we’ll be on strike. The ball’s in their court.”

The ILA and USMX have negotiating off and on since March for a six-year contract covering about 15,000 ILA members handling containerized and roll-on, roll-off cargo in East and Gulf Coast ports.

Negotiators agreed last summer on ILA demands for payment of workers displaced by automation, and for guarantees of ILA jurisdiction over chassis repairs. Top remaining issues are container royalties and local work rules.

Complete coverage of ILA-USMX negotiations

Daggett said the ILA will not accept caps on carriers’ per-ton payments of container royalties, a program established in the 1960s to compensate ILA workers for the loss of jobs to automation. USMX said carriers paid $211 million, or $10 per man-hour, in royalties last year.

USMX wants to freeze royalty payouts at current levels, and eliminate them for new hires. However,  the employer group is proposing to use future growth in royalties for other ILA benefits, and has offered to guarantee that current workers continue receiving royalties at current levels for the next 25 years.

Royalty payments to workers — Daggett said they are “wage supplements,” not bonuses — averaged $15,500 per worker last year. They ranged from a few thousand dollars in ports such as Jacksonville and New Orleans to $36,000 in Savannah and more than $20,000 in New York-New Jersey.

“Container royalties are the bloodline for the ILA members, for the international and for the districts,” he said. Ten percent of carriers’ royalty payments go to the ILA treasury.

Until there’s a breakthrough on the royalty issue, the negotiations are at a standstill. Tuesday’s meeting produced no movement on the issue.

“They absolutely refused to talk about royalties, and for us the term that’s been used in discussions is ‘a runaway train,’ ” Adam said. Carriers’ royalty costs have soared by $180 million since royalty caps were eliminated three years ago. “It has cost the carriers dearly, with no measurable increase in productivity,” he said.

Besides royalties, contract issues include management proposals to provide local negotiators with flexibility to address work rules such as relief-staffing requirements for that allow many workers to be paid when they’re not working at the Port of New York and New Jersey.

Tuesday’s breakdown of negotiations leaves forces shippers to accelerate strike contingency plans. Their limited options include diverting cargo to Canada, Mexico or the West Coast, or waiting and hoping their stockpiles are sufficient to ride out a strike.

“USMX and its members are disappointed with the breakdown of negotiations and the inflexible stance that the union’s leaders have maintained over the nine-month course of these talks,” said James A. Capo, USMX chairman and CEO. " It is especially disheartening given the history of cooperation that in the past has characterized negotiations with the ILA and, since 1977, has resulted in nine new agreements without a single strike or coastwide work stoppage.”

Sixty-eight trade associations last week urged the ILA and USMX to “stay at the negotiating table until a deal is reached even if this extends beyond the current deadline of Dec. 29.

After negotiations broke off Tuesday, the National Retail Federation renewed its call for President Obama to seek an injunction under the Taft-Hartley Act if necessary to keep East and Gulf ports open.

“The last thing the economy needs right now is another strike, which would impact all international trade and commerce at the nation’s East and Gulf Coast container ports. This is truly a ‘container cliff’ in the making,” said Jonathan Gold, the federation’s vice president for supply chain and customs policy.

“The retail industry, once again, calls on President Obama to engage directly in the negotiations. The resident should utilize all available tools, including Taft-Hartley, to eliminate even the threat of a strike or lockout,” Gold said.

An ILA coastwide strike would affect container and roll-on, roll-off cargo covered by the master contract. The ILA said it would continue to work breakbulk, cruise and military ships covered by local agreements. The union said it also would work perishables, but refrigerated and military containers moving on container ships idled by the strike would be affected.

In addition to the coastwide negotiations between the ILA and USMX, a Dec. 31 expiration looms for the ILA’s contract with the Metropolitan Marine Maintenance Contractors’ Association, which represents New York-New Jersey equipment maintenance and repair companies. The Metro association’s contract is not part of the coastwide master agreement, and a strike against the repair companies would idle the port.

The New York Shipping Association was disappointed by the failure of  Tuesday's ILA-USMX negotiations, NYSA President Joseph Curto said. He  said the NYSA is anxious to negotiate port-specific issues for NewYork-New Jersey under its local contract, which supplements the  coastwide contract. But he said that until the master contract talks  resume, " Unfortunately, negotiating on New York issues will likely be  placed on hold."

 
 
whitecoffee
    20-Dec-2012 09:59  
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today seems not bad, got strong movement
 
 
harley22ez
    20-Dec-2012 09:17  
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rates into europe will surel y collapse bro ...big time. due to excess space as per alphaliner below.

 

usa rates would be better  

sgng123      ( Date: 19-Dec-2012 19:19) Posted:



old news already bro.

The newest GRI US 600 for West coast US and 800 for other destination. Asia - Europe need a bigger GRI not to lose out to US trade route never mind

low demand. It is now take it or leave it carrier dictated market lol. This kind of abnormality always happen after a rate war and retailers under cutting liner profit. Sooner or later exporters would cry foul and beg for mercy, this kind of shit happen every few years that people become numb to it. It is a repeat of 2009 ~2010 all over again. Checked out tomorrow house traders would start to buy back shares they sold these 3 days and take out the shortists again...

 
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