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skk888
    15-Nov-2012 23:12  
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Interesting situation now. Kirin is with OUE and Kirin will not accept any counter offer from other parties.
Think it's pretty hard for Thbev now to counter offer to hit its target by 29 Nov, unless it is much higher.
 
 
skk888
    15-Nov-2012 22:35  
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The bid is out. OUE bidding 9.08
 
 
flyfox
    15-Nov-2012 22:25  
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Yeah, actually its beneficial for them to cooperate together, since ThBev only wants the softdrinks business and OUE wants some of the property assets and stuff.

 

ThBev buyover first and sell some of the assets to OUE, since i believe taking over softdrink business wont benefit OUE.
 

 
shadowmoon
    15-Nov-2012 22:21  
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JUst hope Thbev won't bid BIG to consume whole of F& N.

Bc by doing so, their debt will increase more.

Idea situation will be both OUE & Thbev cooperate to get F& N. As Thbev initial target is only F& N beverage sector business....

Anyway see how things goes...interesting. 

flyfox      ( Date: 15-Nov-2012 21:32) Posted:



So will ThaiBev share go up or down tmr?

 

Maybe it's just politics and soap opera.

Then Charoen can reextend his deadline again, and then postpone and postone and offer $9.09 since i am quite sure F& N wont accept $9.08 seriously

 
 
flyfox
    15-Nov-2012 21:32  
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So will ThaiBev share go up or down tmr?

 

Maybe it's just politics and soap opera.

Then Charoen can reextend his deadline again, and then postpone and postone and offer $9.09 since i am quite sure F& N wont accept $9.08 seriously
 
 
shadowmoon
    15-Nov-2012 21:27  
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This news come quite positive....GOOD luck to all.

Cheers 

flyfox      ( Date: 15-Nov-2012 21:13) Posted:



http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_6D52924464F989C648257AB70046973C/$file/Voluntary_Conditional_Cash_Offer_Announcement_15_Nov_12.pdf?openelement

 

$9.08 per share,



 

 
flyfox
    15-Nov-2012 21:13  
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http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_6D52924464F989C648257AB70046973C/$file/Voluntary_Conditional_Cash_Offer_Announcement_15_Nov_12.pdf?openelement

 

$9.08 per share,


 
 
flyfox
    15-Nov-2012 20:12  
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True,

 

but i was abit afraid to sell them this afternoon, which i bought at 0.445.

If suddenly any news that brings back the price up, i may miss the chance.

  so if OUE bids will Thbev shares goes up? or if it doesnt bid then it goes up?

Appreciate if someone can shed some light
 
 
shadowmoon
    15-Nov-2012 19:42  
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Btw if got profit, profit first.....

If not, if got stuck in this one, no harm holding on as THbev FA is good.  

 
 
 
shadowmoon
    15-Nov-2012 19:21  
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But in long run, the acquisition of F& N will definitely bring THbev far...

This stock can be viewed as a long term stock.... if u purchased.

shadowmoon      ( Date: 15-Nov-2012 19:16) Posted:



OUE high chance will not bid.

N im viewing THbev stock price will not get too much up if they really are the one to stomach whole of F& N.

 

 

sanuks      ( Date: 15-Nov-2012 17:31) Posted:



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Thursday, November 15, 2012

Thai Beverage

Thai Beverage: SCB raise TP by 29% to $0.49 from $0.38, on back of a better outlook for better spirits volume due to the minimum wage scheme, and the investment in Fraser & Neave (F& N). A bidding competition for F& N could provide further upside potential as Thai Beverage (Thai Bev) might realise a capital gain. The co’s core business has solid prospects, and house add that a rival mandatory offer of say $10.30 for F& N would imply a valuation of $0.52 for Thai Bev. F& N’s independent advisors have recommended a range of $8.30-11.22. In any case, Thai Bev’s core business is in robust health and house believe the market is missing its solid FCF yield of 6%


 


 

 
shadowmoon
    15-Nov-2012 19:16  
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OUE high chance will not bid.

N im viewing THbev stock price will not get too much up if they really are the one to stomach whole of F& N.

 

 

sanuks      ( Date: 15-Nov-2012 17:31) Posted:



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Thursday, November 15, 2012

Thai Beverage

Thai Beverage: SCB raise TP by 29% to $0.49 from $0.38, on back of a better outlook for better spirits volume due to the minimum wage scheme, and the investment in Fraser & Neave (F& N). A bidding competition for F& N could provide further upside potential as Thai Beverage (Thai Bev) might realise a capital gain. The co’s core business has solid prospects, and house add that a rival mandatory offer of say $10.30 for F& N would imply a valuation of $0.52 for Thai Bev. F& N’s independent advisors have recommended a range of $8.30-11.22. In any case, Thai Bev’s core business is in robust health and house believe the market is missing its solid FCF yield of 6%


 

flyfox      ( Date: 15-Nov-2012 16:55) Posted:



Actually the fundamentals of ThBev is quite good, though there is much speculation on this stock.

 

Sadly i bought at 0.390 sold at 0.425 and bought back at 0.445, now making loss.

 

Anyway, I wont be selling, if it really drops to all low 0.3 something, at most i ll be a longlong term invetstor.. at least got dividends. lol 

Too bad for me :( 


 
 
sanuks
    15-Nov-2012 17:31  
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Source: Sharing is Caring

 

Thursday, November 15, 2012

Thai Beverage

Thai Beverage: SCB raise TP by 29% to $0.49 from $0.38, on back of a better outlook for better spirits volume due to the minimum wage scheme, and the investment in Fraser & Neave (F& N). A bidding competition for F& N could provide further upside potential as Thai Beverage (Thai Bev) might realise a capital gain. The co’s core business has solid prospects, and house add that a rival mandatory offer of say $10.30 for F& N would imply a valuation of $0.52 for Thai Bev. F& N’s independent advisors have recommended a range of $8.30-11.22. In any case, Thai Bev’s core business is in robust health and house believe the market is missing its solid FCF yield of 6%


 

flyfox      ( Date: 15-Nov-2012 16:55) Posted:



Actually the fundamentals of ThBev is quite good, though there is much speculation on this stock.

 

Sadly i bought at 0.390 sold at 0.425 and bought back at 0.445, now making loss.

 

Anyway, I wont be selling, if it really drops to all low 0.3 something, at most i ll be a longlong term invetstor.. at least got dividends. lol 

Too bad for me :( 

 
 
flyfox
    15-Nov-2012 16:55  
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Actually the fundamentals of ThBev is quite good, though there is much speculation on this stock.

 

Sadly i bought at 0.390 sold at 0.425 and bought back at 0.445, now making loss.

 

Anyway, I wont be selling, if it really drops to all low 0.3 something, at most i ll be a longlong term invetstor.. at least got dividends. lol 

Too bad for me :( 
 
 
skk888
    14-Nov-2012 17:08  
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Also pending their quarterly report, if it is positive, then I'm likely to re-enter at the very near term. Otherwise, I may hold awhile more even if OUE decides to bid/not bid.

If OUE will not bid, the chances of them getting the majority is still low. Currently, including those who have accepted, they make only about 37% shares. Unless TCC Assets set a higher bid or manage to negotiate a price with Kirin that they are likely to accept, then the price will rise as they are very likely to have gained majority. They need 13% more, which is very difficult to gather from retail investors by 29th of this month (where the offer will lapse). 

 

cheerstan2002      ( Date: 14-Nov-2012 16:57) Posted:



Can be assist to explain by looking at what signal by OUE will you re-enter? 


Does it mean that if OUE will not bid, THBEV will get a beeter chance to win F& N and then THBEV will rise again? 

skk888      ( Date: 14-Nov-2012 16:02) Posted:



Actually I'm not sure. Two of its associated companies have mixed results. Serm suk posted better than expected profits, while Oishi posted a net loss (less than $10m). It now appears to be focused on its core business. It's a risky bet and I've divested earlier, and am looking to re-enter pending OUE's bid.

If it does not match expectations, the downside is quite a bit. It's NAV is far from current price. Nevertheless, if there are good news from the F& N bid, it will cushion the fall in the next couple of days. OUE will let us know if they are bidding or not by tomorrow.  


 
 
cheerstan2002
    14-Nov-2012 16:57  
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Can be assist to explain by looking at what signal by OUE will you re-enter? 


Does it mean that if OUE will not bid, THBEV will get a beeter chance to win F& N and then THBEV will rise again? 

skk888      ( Date: 14-Nov-2012 16:02) Posted:



Actually I'm not sure. Two of its associated companies have mixed results. Serm suk posted better than expected profits, while Oishi posted a net loss (less than $10m). It now appears to be focused on its core business. It's a risky bet and I've divested earlier, and am looking to re-enter pending OUE's bid.

If it does not match expectations, the downside is quite a bit. It's NAV is far from current price. Nevertheless, if there are good news from the F& N bid, it will cushion the fall in the next couple of days. OUE will let us know if they are bidding or not by tomorrow.  

cheerstan2002      ( Date: 14-Nov-2012 15:33) Posted:



Anybody thinks 3Q12’s turnover will be better-than-expected gross margin profit?

If there is better profit, it will once again cross .445 with keen buying , cheers!

At this moment, THBEV still have upperhand? Do comment ....


 

 
skk888
    14-Nov-2012 16:02  
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Actually I'm not sure. Two of its associated companies have mixed results. Serm suk posted better than expected profits, while Oishi posted a net loss (less than $10m). It now appears to be focused on its core business. It's a risky bet and I've divested earlier, and am looking to re-enter pending OUE's bid.

If it does not match expectations, the downside is quite a bit. It's NAV is far from current price. Nevertheless, if there are good news from the F& N bid, it will cushion the fall in the next couple of days. OUE will let us know if they are bidding or not by tomorrow.  

cheerstan2002      ( Date: 14-Nov-2012 15:33) Posted:



Anybody thinks 3Q12’s turnover will be better-than-expected gross margin profit?

If there is better profit, it will once again cross .445 with keen buying , cheers!

At this moment, THBEV still have upperhand? Do comment ....


skk888      ( Date: 12-Nov-2012 14:57) Posted:



ppl are waiting for more clarity if OUE will bid for F& N..
On top of that, they are late to announce their quarterly results, but the latest is by Wed.

http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_973D7B0BBE0C59B548257AAA00005D3F/$file/THBEV_Extension_Time_Rule705.pdf?openelement 


 
 
cheerstan2002
    14-Nov-2012 15:33  
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Anybody thinks 3Q12’s turnover will be better-than-expected gross margin profit?

If there is better profit, it will once again cross .445 with keen buying , cheers!

At this moment, THBEV still have upperhand? Do comment ....


skk888      ( Date: 12-Nov-2012 14:57) Posted:



ppl are waiting for more clarity if OUE will bid for F& N..
On top of that, they are late to announce their quarterly results, but the latest is by Wed.

http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_973D7B0BBE0C59B548257AAA00005D3F/$file/THBEV_Extension_Time_Rule705.pdf?openelement 

jingsze91      ( Date: 12-Nov-2012 14:53) Posted:



dont know what's happening again. drop so much.

  =( very very long wait.....


 
 
cheerstan2002
    14-Nov-2012 15:24  
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Anbody knows that THBEV this coming finanical result is positive?
 
 
bikerlover
    14-Nov-2012 15:07  
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Nothing to worry. Thai Bev already has the upper hand.
 
 
skk888
    12-Nov-2012 14:57  
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ppl are waiting for more clarity if OUE will bid for F& N..
On top of that, they are late to announce their quarterly results, but the latest is by Wed.

http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_973D7B0BBE0C59B548257AAA00005D3F/$file/THBEV_Extension_Time_Rule705.pdf?openelement 

jingsze91      ( Date: 12-Nov-2012 14:53) Posted:



dont know what's happening again. drop so much.

  =( very very long wait.....

 
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