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clauswu
    25-Jan-2008 16:47  
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Cashiertan,

Congratulations to your EURUSD long deal. Now too late to enter, I doubt that it will exceed previous high of 1.4966, hence your target of 1.4922 looks ambitious but manageable. All depends whether US market goes further up tonight.

 
 
cashiertan
    25-Jan-2008 16:12  
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Few days ago, my short for eurusd is unfruitful with me losing 25pips. however manage to catch the reversal and jump in to long around 22/1 around 13:00 gmt at 1.4510. almost got triggered out on 23/1 when there is a retracement but still having the trade open with target price 1.4922.

anyone is longing eurusd?
 
 
cashiertan
    25-Jan-2008 16:05  
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letonz
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hi Everybody have this Trade Secrets Video System for sharing cost? Pls PM me or anyone interested to group together to share cost.Cashiertan how many poeple share with you to buy this manual?


 

letonz, that time got around 11-12 persons responded.

 

Mani, would like to suggest u go to CNA forum to sell ebooks too, the daily volume is much more than SJ and more jokers like pension are there, so i think more traffic = more sale for you.

i just realised maybe you are doing a ebook online biz, i feel it is good to be doing biz no matter what u sell. sell with integrity. good luck on your online ebooks biz, i read that if successful, one can make more than 20k per month easily. hope u can be one of them

oh yes, i believe in sharing coz if it is a good ebook, many ppl will benefit. it is a win win.

if it is a lousy ebook, many ppl will also benefit coz lose much lesser $. still win win. i like win win for more ppl.

Harry,

That is a good story, it seem u like wuxia. good imagination thou.
 

 
cashiertan
    25-Jan-2008 15:55  
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Manikamaniho
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I always pay the full price for any online product I buy ... 

Especially products that are really good... Smiley

And to me, "The Genie Tutorials" is cheap even without 'sharing' with 10 other people...



 

Mani,

Good for you. I like to buy on cheap, u can call me thrifty or miser but i believe every cents counts.

As for me, thou i have to share the cost with others, however i dun need to result to sell lousy ebooks for living.

I can see now u now starting to sell Trade secret vids when someone wanna buy it instead of genie, u are so keen to sell ebook?

as i mentioned before, u sell genie i sure wack, but u sell other good ebook i am ok, hence i wont stop you from selling trade secret.
 
 
Manikamaniho
    25-Jan-2008 12:15  
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HarryP and TabbyKat... :)

Hahaha... Your analogies are so interesting and very Oriental too... Smiley


However, my own analogy is rather 'mid-Oriental', though.


I'd say tackling the speculative markets is not a matter of martial arts...

Rather, it is more like Sinbad contending with the Monster Beasts in his perilous journey...
Human skills alone, no matter how good,  is useless against such a formidable adversary.

 
 
tabbykat
    25-Jan-2008 11:34  
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harryp,

You are absolutely right. That's also my take.

If you want to gain a PHD in TA, go for Genie. Following Shaolin's principle, you need to put in a couple of years to fully learn the 10 volumes. Then go and look for another GURU to teach you how to trade using some of the principles you learned from this 10 volumes.

Meanwhile, I would prefer to use this time to paper trade based on the strategy of a guru of my choice.

That said, let's come back to Forex Trading.

Anyone familiar with Ichimoku? I understand that it is effective for Forex trading. I am interested to learn this technique.

Cheers

 
 

 
harryp
    25-Jan-2008 11:08  
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OK, heres my take on these two packages. Both are very good. If one haven't done any courses yet it is better to get the genie. If one intends to buy just one package, go for the genie.

It is very difficult to describe the goodness in these two packages. I would say learning and mastering the genie is like a novice entering the Shaolin Temple and trained for 10 years. After passing the 18 Lohans tests, this new Shaolin master came down the mountain and met another senior Shaolin master who has been wandering the wulin for more than 20 years. Then one night while they were at the Dragon Inn drinking wine, the senior master quickly transmited a few deadly killer strokes to this junior guy. The dealy strokes are from the Trade Secret Video. Without the 10 years basic at the Shaolin Temple, this junior martial artist may not get it and think that the senior guy is teaching him some rubbish.

Hope this helps...:))

 
 
 
Manikamaniho
    25-Jan-2008 10:18  
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Oops... that last line should be inside Tabbykat's quoted text...
 
 
Manikamaniho
    25-Jan-2008 10:16  
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TabbyKat wrote...

"... I have both genie and trade secret video.

Genie is like an encyclopedia. Everything about stock trading is thrown in.

It is very tedious to read such longwinded material. Its like learning every parts of a car, engine, body, wheels in full details when you only want to learn to drive. I bet you those who has Genie are still not able to come up with an effective setup though they may learn lots and lots of techincal stuffs. It is like learning to become a professor. ..
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Hahaha... what you have said is the precise truth!!!. The ideal  situation would be for a mentor to  dish out stock tips and obviate the  necessity of arduous slogging and studying and experience  on the part of the learner.  Better still, do away with  all learning and  be able to make money swiftly.

But that's an ideal situation, which is, for the ordinary investor, not how the real world of the stock market operates... Smiley

 

I prefer ebook that is short and simple, with good setup that let you paper trade for a while instead of spending time to learn the 10 volumes.

 
 
Manikamaniho
    25-Jan-2008 10:00  
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The "Trade Secrets" Video Package (Click To See The Ad) is good.

With it, advanced traders can hone their trading skills and tactics to a highly sophisticated level...

To enjoy it fully, there's nothing like paying for it yourself. Sharing is too much hassle, really... Smiley

 

 
Manikamaniho
    25-Jan-2008 09:58  
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The "Trade Secrets" Video Package (Click To See The Ad) is good.

With it, advanced traders can hone their trading skills and tactics to a highly sophisticated level...



To enjoy it fully, there's nothing like paying for it yourself.

Sharing is too much hassle, really... Smiley

 
 
letonz
    24-Jan-2008 22:58  
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hi Everybody have this Trade Secrets Video System for sharing cost? Pls PM me or anyone interested to group together to share cost.Cashiertan how many poeple share with you to buy this manual?
 
 
harryp
    24-Jan-2008 22:16  
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Mani, your response to Casher doesn't sound very practical leh. Too much theory...... :))
 
 
Manikamaniho
    24-Jan-2008 21:46  
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Because my trading makes sure I can afford to pay for it... hehehe... Smiley
 
 
Manikamaniho
    24-Jan-2008 21:44  
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I always pay the full price for any online product I buy ... 

Especially products that are really good... Smiley

And to me, "The Genie Tutorials" is cheap even without 'sharing' with 10 other people...

 

 
cashiertan
    24-Jan-2008 21:08  
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dun wori mani before i comment i will scan it once, i have scanned genie from page 1 to last page once. only chapt 1-3 which i read a thrice else i would have totally condemn the whole ebook. based on your writing and ur pref i am sure you are very theory based guy aka academical type. genie would suit ppl like you wel; but sadly majority of the ppl are more pragmatic based, hence genie wont work on them well. the quotes u used further prove to me i am correct, the quote is correct but not totally correct just as there is many type of people who suit diff systems, what the quotes say wont be correct on everyone. if u have enough traders frens, u will know that what u preach is not totally correct nor pratical. there is much more successful traders who did it w/o anything u recommended nor what genie taught. all i can say is genie suit u, maybe, but not many ppl else. there is no point for me to contd, stockscharts.com covered everything genie and teach and more. i will contd to paste www.stockcharts.com everytime u paste genie. period
 
 
Manikamaniho
    24-Jan-2008 18:52  
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Cashier...

How can one say one has read the manual when one has not even gone beyond the first 3 chapters???

Here I am not just recommending an ebook...

I am recommending a complete system of stock market education for those who would better themselves... ("The Genie Tutorials" - click to see)


Of great value are particularly the philosophical content and  character-building aspects. Techniques and tactics alone will not  make you much money in the end.  It's the philosophical aspects that cause many a downfall and devastation of supposedly advanced traders... because it's a matter of character.

(Incidentally, a credible  author will carefully choose the person who would write the foreword to his masterpeice, and would not accept the word of any unqualified or unsuitable individual).

 
 
cashiertan
    24-Jan-2008 14:16  
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this is just to forward the ebook forex freedom which tabby tok abt and used to trade forex.

personally i used 500usd per 1 mini lot or 5000usd per 1 std lot.

 

BAseer,

agree thats why it is always good to paper trade the system 1st as recommend by the author.

for me, i paper trade by back testing and based on my experience, i able to incorporate trade secret system into my own system to further refine my entry. bascially i used it to better my breakout system signal. i dun think it is best used as a standalone system thou it can be used as standalone.

Tabby,

u have to used all 4 setups of trade secret system into your forex system. i used it to refine my trading system instaed of using it as standalone system. especially the fibnacci setup, which u need to master it 1st, as forex is based alot on fibonacci level

Mani,

most of your ebooks u recommend are very theorical but not practical in actual trading. when reading the ebook may make u feel great but end up clueless how to trade.

many buy piano and use it doesnt mean much. maybe they just not really good in piano or dun suit or dun like piano. most impt is to suit yourself and know yourself.

as tabby said, i am very very very sure very very very few ppl is able to benefit fully from genie as even i read it, i am sure very few ppl is able to trade profitably with genie alone. as usually i still think it is a good theory encopedia to be kept for reference or read it if really nothing to do. for me, i rather refine my system.
 
 
Manikamaniho
    24-Jan-2008 13:27  
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It is a rather common occurrence to see that there are many who have bought or own great quality pianos but still could not play a piece impressively... Smiley
 
 
tabbykat
    24-Jan-2008 09:30  
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I have both genie and trade secret video.

Genie is like an encyclopedia. Everything about stock trading is thrown in.

It is very tedious to read such longwinded material. Its like learning every parts of a car, engine, body, wheels in full details when you only want to learn to drive. I bet you those who has Genie are still not able to come up with an effective setup though they may learn lots and lots of techincal stuffs. It is like learning to become a professor.

 

I prefer ebook that is short and simple, with good setup that let you paper trade for a while instead of spending time to learn the 10 volumes.

 

Cashier,

Which set up of trade secret video is suitable for Forex? Would appreciate it if I can know the one you are comfortable with.

 

Thanks.

P.S. Stressfree indicator is very effective. Presently, I only use stressfree indicator to capture lots of trade for shorting. Simple, just follow the red arrows and short those counters that are longterm bearish. I will go long today on City dev and one green arrow appeared last night. Check it out cashier.

Cheers.
 
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