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So put an order at 2.02 tomorrow. Will be ok. See LVS shares. It is going up. Got 2 casinos. 1 up, 1 down to balance the equilibrium. Like yin and yang.
bishan22 ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 18:49) Posted:
Today another black candle, now 3 in a row. Next support may be 2.00.  |
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you meant like tv/movie.....
you like action pack or R(A)
iPunter ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:31) Posted:
This is true..
And the so-called market's 'scripts' are none of our business..
It is soley the call of the market itself. That is obvious.
Thus it is meaningless and pointless to say "the market is always right"..
ie. why bother at all to mention the obvious (which makes the person look silly)?
Of course the market is always righ... how else can it be?
Unless one thinks the market's 'script' is one's own 'script',
but that is rather silly too, not to mention arrogant... hehe .. 
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Today another black candle, now 3 in a row. Next support may be 2.00.
that is called dreaming.....
eastcivic ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 18:45) Posted:
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true..... a master once told me......
"sometimes we only see the things that we want to see"
iPunter ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:36) Posted:
Exactly... you are so right. Thus, realising the market is not subject to our calls, but is the other way round, we need to develop an totally unbiased appraoch to tackle the unpredictable beastly thing. Unless we are happy to ride lengthy roller coasters, this has to be the best way for a compromise of sorts..
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true..... a master once told me......
"sometimes we only see the things that we want to see"
iPunter ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:36) Posted:
Exactly... you are so right. Thus, realising the market is not subject to our calls, but is the other way round, we need to develop an totally unbiased appraoch to tackle the unpredictable beastly thing. Unless we are happy to ride lengthy roller coasters, this has to be the best way for a compromise of sorts..
eastcivic ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:26) Posted:
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if we can't trust even ourselves, how then do we trade? what and how do we make a decision to either buy, sell or hold?
PS: not challenging you, and no bad intentions from me, but just trying to learn more about trading..... |
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share your graph leh.
iPunter ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 16:57) Posted:
GentSp is on the verge of forming a long black candle..
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ha ha.... no worries be happy !
iPunter ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:36) Posted:
Exactly... you are so right. Thus, realising the market is not subject to our calls, but is the other way round, we need to develop an totally unbiased appraoch to tackle the unpredictable beastly thing. Unless we are happy to ride lengthy roller coasters, this has to be the best way for a compromise of sorts..
eastcivic ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:26) Posted:
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if we can't trust even ourselves, how then do we trade? what and how do we make a decision to either buy, sell or hold?
PS: not challenging you, and no bad intentions from me, but just trying to learn more about trading..... |
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Exactly... you are so right.
Thus, realising the market is not subject to our calls, but is the other way round,
we need to develop an totally unbiased appraoch to tackle the unpredictable beastly thing.
Unless we are happy to ride lengthy roller coasters, this has to be the best way for a compromise of sorts..
eastcivic ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:26) Posted:
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if we can't trust even ourselves, how then do we trade? what and how do we make a decision to either buy, sell or hold?
PS: not challenging you, and no bad intentions from me, but just trying to learn more about trading.....
tactician ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:21) Posted:
| READERS HERE - Remember RULE no. 1 on STOCK Trading - TRUST NO ONE , Not even your own Thoughts ! |
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This is true..
And the so-called market's 'scripts' are none of our business..
It is soley the call of the market itself. That is obvious.
Thus it is meaningless and pointless to say "the market is always right"..
ie. why bother at all to mention the obvious (which makes the person look silly)?
Of course the market is always righ... how else can it be?
Unless one thinks the market's 'script' is one's own 'script',
but that is rather silly too, not to mention arrogant... hehe ..
if we can't trust even ourselves, how then do we trade? what and how do we make a decision to either buy, sell or hold?
PS: not challenging you, and no bad intentions from me, but just trying to learn more about trading.....
tactician ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:21) Posted:
| READERS HERE - Remember RULE no. 1 on STOCK Trading - TRUST NO ONE , Not even your own Thoughts ! |
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thanks!
i am still a noob in this...... hopefully i am right, still learning....
iPunter ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:19) Posted:
Good defensive action... Way to trade...
eastcivic ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:00) Posted:
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plus an inverted hammer from yesterday's closing..... i think price might just drop further.....
sold my holdings to protect some profits.... will be looking to re-enter |
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READERS HERE - Remember RULE no. 1 on STOCK Trading - TRUST NO ONE , Not even your own Thoughts !
then I better not risk it. 1lot to get fine..... thanks all for helping.
tactician ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:11) Posted:
Agreed on this , shorting can get your account and identity blacklisted on SGX with a $1000 FINE when caught !
You can try CFD or ES , although these 2 does not appeal to me at all
epliew ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 16:52) Posted:
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i do not encourage short as well.
singapore a stable market those short is reserved for US market....... |
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Good defensive action...
Way to trade...
eastcivic ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 17:00) Posted:
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plus an inverted hammer from yesterday's closing..... i think price might just drop further.....
sold my holdings to protect some profits.... will be looking to re-enter
iPunter ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 16:57) Posted:
GentSp is on the verge of forming a long black candle..
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Agreed on this , shorting can get your account and identity blacklisted on SGX with a $1000 FINE when caught !
You can try CFD or ES , although these 2 does not appeal to me at all
epliew ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 16:52) Posted:
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i do not encourage short as well.
singapore a stable market those short is reserved for US market.......
cannotfind ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 15:14) Posted:
| anyone can tell me if you can do shortselling? I asked DBS they said, I will be penalised. |
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plus an inverted hammer from yesterday's closing..... i think price might just drop further.....
sold my holdings to protect some profits.... will be looking to re-enter
iPunter ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 16:57) Posted:
GentSp is on the verge of forming a long black candle..
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GentSp is on the verge of forming a long black candle..
to add on......
CFD = Contract For Difference
from wiki.... In finance, a contract for difference (or CFD) is a contract between two parties, typically described as "buyer" and "seller", stipulating that the seller will pay to the buyer the difference between the current value of an asset and its value at contract time. (If the difference is negative, then the buyer pays instead to the seller.) In effect CFDs are financial derivatives that allow investors to take advantage of prices moving up (long positions) or prices moving down (short positions) on underlying financial instruments and are often used to speculate on those markets.
For example, when applied to equities, such a contract is an equity derivative that allows investors to speculate on share price movements, without the need for ownership of the underlying shares.
In summary, when you play CFDs, you are playing the price movement of the share. Hence, you do not 'own' the share and you only pay 10-20% of the value of the share when you purchase a CFD.
For example, a CFD of 1,000 shares of genting at $2 will cost you 20% x 1,000 x $2 = $400 (before commission and daily finance charge)
For 'long' positions, there will be a daily finance charge. but for 'short' positions, there are some houses which do not charge daily finance charges
alexchia01 ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 15:55) Posted:
If you plan to short intraday, that is sell and buy back before the market close, that is ok. But not encourage by SGX. If you short and did not buy back before market close, that is illegal. Fine $1000 per day, up to 3 days. If you plan to short and hold overnight, you must open a CFD account and trade through that account. This is the only legal way to hold short position overnight, but there is a daily charges. I hope this helps. Good luck.
cannotfind ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 15:48) Posted:
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what is CFD? CASH?
Thanks Terence, you mean as long as I sell in the morning and buy back in the afternoon this is ok? DBS Vickers said cannot. |
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i do not encourage short as well.
singapore a stable market those short is reserved for US market.......
cannotfind ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 15:14) Posted:
| anyone can tell me if you can do shortselling? I asked DBS they said, I will be penalised. |
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