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bishan22
    24-Sep-2010 08:52  
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epliew,

Just treat this forum as a market place. Ignore the noise and absorb those that give constructive views. Then use your judgement and trade wisely. Never love your stock and cut if need be. Good luck.Smiley



epliew      ( Date: 24-Sep-2010 08:26) Posted:

typo error, "what I do not like to see"

epliew      ( Date: 24-Sep-2010 08:21) Posted:



hi all,

i think the purpose of the forum is help to encourage one another to make more profit and not to create fear about this stock or that.  I dare to say some people are adding fear for personal reasons..... so they could re-enter market or buy more......

I know the decision to trade in stock market, the purpose is making money.  Money is not everything, so lose some money will not die, I strongly believe we should encourage one another instead making assumption with technical analysis.  What i do like to see is people killing themselve after making some losses.  better advice is trade within your limits.....

For those who believe the stock will be 1.7 tomorrow please show me your charts and explanation?

I wish all singaporean prosper with genting.


 
 
epliew
    24-Sep-2010 08:26  
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typo error, "what I do not like to see"

epliew      ( Date: 24-Sep-2010 08:21) Posted:



hi all,

i think the purpose of the forum is help to encourage one another to make more profit and not to create fear about this stock or that.  I dare to say some people are adding fear for personal reasons..... so they could re-enter market or buy more......

I know the decision to trade in stock market, the purpose is making money.  Money is not everything, so lose some money will not die, I strongly believe we should encourage one another instead making assumption with technical analysis.  What i do like to see is people killing themselve after making some losses.  better advice is trade within your limits.....

For those who believe the stock will be 1.7 tomorrow please show me your charts and explanation?

I wish all singaporean prosper with genting.

 
 
epliew
    24-Sep-2010 08:21  
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hi all,

i think the purpose of the forum is help to encourage one another to make more profit and not to create fear about this stock or that.  I dare to say some people are adding fear for personal reasons..... so they could re-enter market or buy more......

I know the decision to trade in stock market, the purpose is making money.  Money is not everything, so lose some money will not die, I strongly believe we should encourage one another instead making assumption with technical analysis.  What i do like to see is people killing themselve after making some losses.  better advice is trade within your limits.....

For those who believe the stock will be 1.7 tomorrow please show me your charts and explanation?

I wish all singaporean prosper with genting.
 

 
iPunter
    24-Sep-2010 08:11  
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That's why playing shares is dangerous.. 

    Many have already 'dieded' because of playing shares and betting..

       I am quite sure that if they are given another chance to come back to this world,

          they will almost certainly not be playing shares..

              Of course, if it's for entertainmant purposes,

                  or if the person has highly skilled defensiveness, it is  a different story..

                      But the bottom line is to have humble respect for the stock market beast.. Smiley


 
 
bishan22
    24-Sep-2010 08:01  
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Ya. Below 2.00 sound more logically as investors will scoop up within minutes.Smiley

cannotfind      ( Date: 24-Sep-2010 00:48) Posted:

you want people to jump out over the window? say so low. can die la

FearValueGreed      ( Date: 24-Sep-2010 00:43) Posted:



Buy at 176-180 region.

It will fall back, dun hurry.

 

then it will hit $2.50 and maybe $3 for those gullible who think it may hit $10, before crashes back to earth


 
 
cannotfind
    24-Sep-2010 00:48  
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you want people to jump out over the window? say so low. can die la

FearValueGreed      ( Date: 24-Sep-2010 00:43) Posted:



Buy at 176-180 region.

It will fall back, dun hurry.

 

then it will hit $2.50 and maybe $3 for those gullible who think it may hit $10, before crashes back to earth

 

 
FearValueGreed
    24-Sep-2010 00:43  
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Buy at 176-180 region.

It will fall back, dun hurry.

 

then it will hit $2.50 and maybe $3 for those gullible who think it may hit $10, before crashes back to earth
 
 
purelotus
    23-Sep-2010 23:55  
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you are damn right

iPunter      ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 21:53) Posted:

Fear of  LO$$ is the ultimate protection against loss.

    Fear of not making enough money is the cause of most losses..

        But if one treats every bet as a gamble, one should be okay..Smiley



limkt009      ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 21:40) Posted:

I'm on the fear side....heh


 
 
iPunter
    23-Sep-2010 21:53  
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Fear of  LO$$ is the ultimate protection against loss.

    Fear of not making enough money is the cause of most losses..

        But if one treats every bet as a gamble, one should be okay..Smiley



limkt009      ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 21:40) Posted:

I'm on the fear side....hehe

sinetic8      ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 20:09) Posted:

like one of the forumers said below. now its the battle of fear and faith. so to all bros out there, which side  are you on? I'm at the faith side. 


 
 
limkt009
    23-Sep-2010 21:40  
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I'm on the fear side....hehe

sinetic8      ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 20:09) Posted:

like one of the forumers said below. now its the battle of fear and faith. so to all bros out there, which side  are you on? I'm at the faith side. 

 

 
sinetic8
    23-Sep-2010 21:32  
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yup. i think sentosa is more for sightseeing and family kind of place because of the studio. but i will accumulate at the right price im comfortable with because when they start to give out dividends next time, it wont be this price anymore.

sentosa is an tourist island/attraction. unless no ones visits that island, then genting is a worthless stock. ghost month over liao. superstitious gamblers will start going to "work".

i'm more of long term so therefore even though it corrects, i still have the holding power. short term the life too stressful liao.. can't take it..



cannotfind      ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 21:14) Posted:

Also not forgetting those who goes to LVS are really rich. For this coming F1, if you are the drivers, which one will you go to? More will be spending time or even stay in LVS hotel since the track is there. Genting will flourish once Universal is completed. Somemore no dividend for 2 years. Ignore this is genting and any ordinary share, will you push it till this limit knowingly there is no dividend? Anyway, it is a good share if you keep for long term. Ghost month just ended, many baby ghost will get Genting to win.

sinetic8      ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 20:14) Posted:

   (From THE WALL STREET JOURNAL) 
   By John Jannarone 

[Financial Analysis and Commentary]

 

Leaving Las Vegas usually pays off.

That's even true of casino giant Las Vegas Sands, which apparently decided to diversify away from the Strip just in time. In 2006, when Vegas was booming, Sands won rights to build a multibillion-dollar casino in Singapore, where gambling was previously forbidden. Not long after, investors began to panic over Sands' leverage, and exposure to Vegas, at one point sending its shares down 99% from their 2007 peak.

But the gamble on the equator has begun to pay off. Sands shares have more than doubled this year, with much of the gain coming since the Singapore casino opened in April. Based on July's figures, the Marina Bay Sands casino is earning an annualized $1 billion of earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. That has helped boost consensus 2011 Ebitda estimates for the whole company to $2.4 billion, from $1.7 billion a year ago.

The house odds in Singapore are tough to beat. Sands and Genting Singapore each have exclusive rights to operate a casino on the island for ten years without competition. The two casinos are on track to be the world's most profitable next year. This success reflects more than novelty value. History shows gamblers in the region tend to stick to their habits, through thick and thin. Genting Malaysia has seen gambling revenue at its Malaysia operations rise between 2004 and 2009 at a 15% annualized rate.

Singapore has other advantages. The country has spent decades developing travel, business and tourist infrastructure. It is likely no coincidence that Singapore attracts gamblers from places like China, even though the gambling Mecca of Macau is much closer. Chinese visitors rose 63% in July from a year earlier, says Singapore's tourism board.

One risk is the Singapore government introduces rules that stifle the casino business. The government is keen to limit crime rates and gambling addiction among its citizens. But so far, government has targeted restrictions at low-income locals, which only account for a few percentage points of gambling revenue. Even tighter restrictions likely wouldn't be a catastrophe.

The greater risk is a sharp economic slowdown that crimps regional tourism. But Sands deserves extra points for its Singapore diversification, which may account for half its profit next year. Rivals Wynn Resorts and MGM Resorts International have made progress in Macau, where competition is fierce. J.P. Morgan's Joseph Greff estimates Sands has an enterprise value of 13.9 times 2011 Ebitda, compared with 11.1 times for Wynn and 12.5 times for MGM.

While it's tempting to choose the cheaper stock, Sands' growth potential is worth the extra chips.

 

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cannotfind
    23-Sep-2010 21:14  
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Also not forgetting those who goes to LVS are really rich. For this coming F1, if you are the drivers, which one will you go to? More will be spending time or even stay in LVS hotel since the track is there. Genting will flourish once Universal is completed. Somemore no dividend for 2 years. Ignore this is genting and any ordinary share, will you push it till this limit knowingly there is no dividend? Anyway, it is a good share if you keep for long term. Ghost month just ended, many baby ghost will get Genting to win.

sinetic8      ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 20:14) Posted:

   (From THE WALL STREET JOURNAL) 
   By John Jannarone 

[Financial Analysis and Commentary]

 

Leaving Las Vegas usually pays off.

That's even true of casino giant Las Vegas Sands, which apparently decided to diversify away from the Strip just in time. In 2006, when Vegas was booming, Sands won rights to build a multibillion-dollar casino in Singapore, where gambling was previously forbidden. Not long after, investors began to panic over Sands' leverage, and exposure to Vegas, at one point sending its shares down 99% from their 2007 peak.

But the gamble on the equator has begun to pay off. Sands shares have more than doubled this year, with much of the gain coming since the Singapore casino opened in April. Based on July's figures, the Marina Bay Sands casino is earning an annualized $1 billion of earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. That has helped boost consensus 2011 Ebitda estimates for the whole company to $2.4 billion, from $1.7 billion a year ago.

The house odds in Singapore are tough to beat. Sands and Genting Singapore each have exclusive rights to operate a casino on the island for ten years without competition. The two casinos are on track to be the world's most profitable next year. This success reflects more than novelty value. History shows gamblers in the region tend to stick to their habits, through thick and thin. Genting Malaysia has seen gambling revenue at its Malaysia operations rise between 2004 and 2009 at a 15% annualized rate.

Singapore has other advantages. The country has spent decades developing travel, business and tourist infrastructure. It is likely no coincidence that Singapore attracts gamblers from places like China, even though the gambling Mecca of Macau is much closer. Chinese visitors rose 63% in July from a year earlier, says Singapore's tourism board.

One risk is the Singapore government introduces rules that stifle the casino business. The government is keen to limit crime rates and gambling addiction among its citizens. But so far, government has targeted restrictions at low-income locals, which only account for a few percentage points of gambling revenue. Even tighter restrictions likely wouldn't be a catastrophe.

The greater risk is a sharp economic slowdown that crimps regional tourism. But Sands deserves extra points for its Singapore diversification, which may account for half its profit next year. Rivals Wynn Resorts and MGM Resorts International have made progress in Macau, where competition is fierce. J.P. Morgan's Joseph Greff estimates Sands has an enterprise value of 13.9 times 2011 Ebitda, compared with 11.1 times for Wynn and 12.5 times for MGM.

While it's tempting to choose the cheaper stock, Sands' growth potential is worth the extra chips.

 

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sinetic8      ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 20:09) Posted:

like one of the forumers said below. now its the battle of fear and faith. so to all bros out there, which side  are you on? I'm at the faith side. 


 
 
pharoah88
    23-Sep-2010 20:47  
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 Genting SP (G13) 
Day Hi 2.110 Last 2.070 Vol 73,158,000
Day Lo 2.060 $Chng -0.030


 

Price Trades Volume Sold to Buyer Mid Bought from Seller
2.060 161 2,062,000 2,062,000 0 0
2.061 3 151,000 0 151,000 0
2.063 1 9,000 0 9,000 0
2.066 4 136,000 0 136,000 0
2.067 1 14,000 0 14,000 0
2.069 1 22,000 0 22,000 0
2.070 1,180 26,519,000 18,988,000 0 7,531,000
2.071 6 49,000 0 49,000 0
2.072 4 84,000 0 84,000 0
2.073 1 10,000 0 10,000 0
2.074 3 29,000 0 29,000 0
2.075 3 122,000 0 122,000 0
2.077 1 15,000 0 15,000 0
2.078 2 18,000 0 18,000 0
2.079 1 108,000 0 108,000 0
2.080 803 29,290,000 16,682,000 0 12,608,000
2.082 1 6,000 0 6,000 0
2.087 1 3,000 0 3,000 0
2.088 1 11,000 0 11,000 0
2.089 1 12,000 0 12,000 0
2.090 324 9,194,000 5,470,000 71,000 3,653,000
2.091 1 200,000 0 200,000 0
2.100 137 3,132,000 2,433,000 0 699,000
2.105 1 15,000 0 15,000 0
2.108 1 6,000 0 6,000 0
2.110 45 189,000 0 0 189,000
2.125 1 1,750,000 0 1,750,000 0
TOTAL 2,689 73,156,000 45,635,000 2,841,000 24,680,000
 
 
pharoah88
    23-Sep-2010 20:45  
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Thu: 23 SEP 2010  CLOSING

after  330pm  kInder playtImes

 

17:05:03 2.070 910,000 Bought From Seller


15:13:50 2.080 1,294,000 Sold To Buyer


15:06:35 2.080 3,088,000 Sold To Buyer


14:47:43 2.080 1,300,000 Bought From Seller
 
 
pharoah88
    23-Sep-2010 20:30  
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Thu: 23 SEP 2010  CLOSING

e Genting HK US$ S21 i -- USD 0.500
-0.015 -2.9 67,589,000 5,167,000 0.500 0.505 1,430,000 0.515 0.515 0.520 0.495   M    
GENTING BHD 3182 i CD MYR 9.930
-0.450 -4.3 6,557,400 141,400 9.930 9.980 5,000 10.360 10.380 10.360 9.880 --
GENTING MYS BHD 4715 i CD MYR 3.420
-0.080 -2.3 10,771,500 62,700 3.420 3.430 26,100 3.500 3.500 3.540 3.400 --
Genting SP G13 i -- SGD 2.070
-0.030 -1.4 73,158,000 6,229,000 2.060 2.070 1,882,000 2.100 2.100 2.110 2.060   M    
GentingSMBLeCW120402 J2UW i -- SGD 0.255
-0.015 -5.6 50,000 15,000 0.255 0.280 20,000 0.255 0.270 0.255 0.255   M    
GentingSMBLeCW130103 L2PW i -- SGD 0.210
-0.005 -2.3 98,000 100,000 0.160 0.225 25,000 0.215 0.215 0.215 0.210 --
GentingSMBLeCW130104 L7KW i -- SGD 0.170
-0.005 -2.9 585,000 15,000 0.160 0.195 10,000 0.170 0.175 0.170 0.170 --
GentingSMBLeCW130603 L0QW i -- SGD 0.270
-0.020 -6.9 50,000 100,000 0.210 0.315 8,000 0.285 0.290 0.285 0.270   M
 

 
pharoah88
    23-Sep-2010 20:18  
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Stock Code i Rmk Ccy Last $Chng %Chng Vol Buy Vol Buy Sell Sell Vol Open Previous Day Hi Day Lo Ind
GMG 5IM i -- SGD 0.285
+0.015 +5.6 188,943,000 3,738,000 0.280 0.285 683,000 0.275 0.270 0.300 0.275   M    
UMS 558 i -- SGD 0.480
+0.015 +3.2 88,014,000 1,512,000 0.480 0.485 392,000 0.470 0.465 0.505 0.470 C,M    
Adventus 5EF i -- SGD 0.060
+0.005 +9.1 76,628,000 9,190,000 0.060 0.065 3,641,000 0.075 0.055 0.080 0.060 C,M    
Genting SP G13 i -- SGD 2.070
-0.030 -1.4 73,158,000 6,229,000 2.060 2.070 1,882,000 2.100 2.100 2.110 2.060   M    
ChinaNTown D4N i -- SGD 0.150
+0.010 +7.1 70,308,000 8,467,000 0.145 0.150 7,478,000 0.140 0.140 0.155 0.135   M    
e Genting HK US$ S21 i -- USD 0.500
-0.015 -2.9 67,589,000 5,167,000 0.500 0.505 1,430,000 0.515 0.515 0.520 0.495   M    
PLife REIT C2PU i -- SGD 1.580
-0.090 -5.4 64,145,000 203,000 1.580 1.590 275,000 1.600 1.670 1.620 1.570 C,M    
ChinaOilFld DT2 i -- SGD 0.120
+0.010 +9.1 59,131,000 430,000 0.120 0.125 29,000 0.115 0.110 0.140 0.110   M    
CoscoCorp F83 i -- SGD 1.850
+0.080 +4.5 57,061,000 518,000 1.840 1.850 595,000 1.790 1.770 1.880 1.770 C,M   
 
 
iPunter
    23-Sep-2010 20:15  
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If one must need faith,

    it is best to have faith in the chart..

        rather than divine blessing..

           Because for what you know,

             the divine one may not want you to play shares.. Smiley
 
 
sinetic8
    23-Sep-2010 20:14  
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   (From THE WALL STREET JOURNAL) 
   By John Jannarone 

[Financial Analysis and Commentary]

 

Leaving Las Vegas usually pays off.

That's even true of casino giant Las Vegas Sands, which apparently decided to diversify away from the Strip just in time. In 2006, when Vegas was booming, Sands won rights to build a multibillion-dollar casino in Singapore, where gambling was previously forbidden. Not long after, investors began to panic over Sands' leverage, and exposure to Vegas, at one point sending its shares down 99% from their 2007 peak.

But the gamble on the equator has begun to pay off. Sands shares have more than doubled this year, with much of the gain coming since the Singapore casino opened in April. Based on July's figures, the Marina Bay Sands casino is earning an annualized $1 billion of earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. That has helped boost consensus 2011 Ebitda estimates for the whole company to $2.4 billion, from $1.7 billion a year ago.

The house odds in Singapore are tough to beat. Sands and Genting Singapore each have exclusive rights to operate a casino on the island for ten years without competition. The two casinos are on track to be the world's most profitable next year. This success reflects more than novelty value. History shows gamblers in the region tend to stick to their habits, through thick and thin. Genting Malaysia has seen gambling revenue at its Malaysia operations rise between 2004 and 2009 at a 15% annualized rate.

Singapore has other advantages. The country has spent decades developing travel, business and tourist infrastructure. It is likely no coincidence that Singapore attracts gamblers from places like China, even though the gambling Mecca of Macau is much closer. Chinese visitors rose 63% in July from a year earlier, says Singapore's tourism board.

One risk is the Singapore government introduces rules that stifle the casino business. The government is keen to limit crime rates and gambling addiction among its citizens. But so far, government has targeted restrictions at low-income locals, which only account for a few percentage points of gambling revenue. Even tighter restrictions likely wouldn't be a catastrophe.

The greater risk is a sharp economic slowdown that crimps regional tourism. But Sands deserves extra points for its Singapore diversification, which may account for half its profit next year. Rivals Wynn Resorts and MGM Resorts International have made progress in Macau, where competition is fierce. J.P. Morgan's Joseph Greff estimates Sands has an enterprise value of 13.9 times 2011 Ebitda, compared with 11.1 times for Wynn and 12.5 times for MGM.

While it's tempting to choose the cheaper stock, Sands' growth potential is worth the extra chips.

 

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sinetic8      ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 20:09) Posted:

like one of the forumers said below. now its the battle of fear and faith. so to all bros out there, which side  are you on? I'm at the faith side. 

 
 
sinetic8
    23-Sep-2010 20:09  
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like one of the forumers said below. now its the battle of fear and faith. so to all bros out there, which side  are you on? I'm at the faith side. 
 
 
iPunter
    23-Sep-2010 20:07  
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If you entered @2.02, what is your cut-loss point, if any?

   Or hold till it recovers? Smiley



cannotfind      ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 19:45) Posted:

So put an order at 2.02 tomorrow. Will be ok. See LVS shares. It is going up. Got 2 casinos. 1 up, 1 down to balance the equilibrium. Like yin and yang.

bishan22      ( Date: 23-Sep-2010 18:49) Posted:

Today another black candle, now 3 in a row. Next support may be 2.00. Smiley


 
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