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stockmarketmind ( Date: 22-Jun-2011 08:02) Posted:
| What's my entry point if I use FA? |
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There's really no such thing as "
using FA" ...
Since solid stocks can also go up and
down like nobody's business.
But one can
use a stock chart as an investment tool...
stockmarketmind ( Date: 22-Jun-2011 08:02) Posted:
| What's my entry point if I use FA? |
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What's my entry point if I use FA?
PE are last year number, and shipping is rather volatile these few years. At some point in time, they will need to issue rights again to fund the purchase.
ckhpaul ( Date: 19-Jun-2011 23:02) Posted:
Be careful of NOL, it is trading as Value Stock, once it reached below 1.60 (Below NAV) with PE 6.6x. I have uploaded FA and TA for this stock - however, from TA, it still shown signs of weakness. I have advised people to short at 1.90 but now it is below 1.60 (Discount NAV) - down side should be support by fundamental.
Read my ckhpaul.blogspot.com
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The rebound starts!
NOL: DBSV maintains Hold with $1.55 TP. House expect no recovery in freight rates yet as we approach peak season and expect losses to continue in 2Q11, although note that value could be emerging given recent underperformance. Add that annual Transpac rate negotiations will likely result in flat or slightly lower rates and there is no sign yet of a peak-season driven vol recovery either….
2Q11 will likely be another lossmaking qtr for NOL, and industry at large, athough 3Q11 earnings should benefit from peak season surcharges, visibility remains poor at this point. At current prices, NOL is trading close to or below book value, which house feel is near the floor of its trading band, given that huge losses reminiscent of the recent shipping crisis in FY09 are unlikely to be repeated.
thanks paul!!
Be careful of NOL, it is trading as Value Stock, once it reached below 1.60 (Below NAV) with PE 6.6x. I have uploaded FA and TA for this stock - however, from TA, it still shown signs of weakness.
I have advised people to short at 1.90 but now it is below 1.60 (Discount NAV) - down side should be support by fundamental.
Read my ckhpaul.blogspot.com
Bearing the inevitable 'hardship' in the stock market
is
only for those who are rich enough to afford the huge losses freqquently encountered in a prolonged downtrend.
For the ordinary person, blindly following such a suggestion
can be disastrous to their lives and well-being in the real world...
stockmarketmind ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 20:46) Posted:
Totally agree, no pain no gain. To make it, you need to go through hardship and periods of agony before you will see the light.
iPunter ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 16:10) Posted:
Sifu is right... :)
Stock play is life... it can be fun, it can be also be hell...
depending on how one plays the market.
but in the end, it is those who can afford to
lose the most that benefit the most...
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Totally agree, no pain no gain. To make it, you need to go through hardship and periods of agony before you will see the light.
iPunter ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 16:10) Posted:
Sifu is right... :)
Stock play is life... it can be fun, it can be also be hell...
depending on how one plays the market.
but in the end, it is those who can afford to
lose the most that benefit the most...
stockmarketmind ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 14:25) Posted:
| That's what makes trading so fun. If everyone is the same, there would be no one buying and selling. |
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Sifu is right...
:) Stock play is life... it can be fun, it can be also be hell...
depending on how one plays the market.
but in the end, it is those who can afford to
lose the most that benefit the most...
stockmarketmind ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 14:25) Posted:
| That's what makes trading so fun. If everyone is the same, there would be no one buying and selling. |
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That's what makes trading so fun. If everyone is the same, there would be no one buying and selling.
Betting at the top (peak) of a downtrend
is much more sensible than betting on a
continuing downtrend (more risky)...
doji yesterday with indicators os offer turning point opportunity
but chance was dashed on friday with a
bearish engulfing candle
price need to break strongly above 1.57 for upward hope
else any red candle next monday probably bring it lower to
1.35
learner view only...hehe
stockmarketmind ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 00:49) Posted:
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Do you not agree that one can also
invest (ie.sell) in a downtrend?...
stockmarketmind ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 11:52) Posted:
I am not speculating, I am investing. I don't bet because that's like throwing money in the drain. I follow the trend and enter when big players enter and exit when they exit.
iPunter ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 10:04) Posted:
" Bet" means just that.
Any speculative activity is essentially a bet.
Whether one perceives the next move as a
90% probability, or higher, one cannot
know for sure. And this is where the
practice of cutting loss comes in.
By the way, mindless gambling is
very different from betting.
Stock bettting is much, much
more demanding than gambling...
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I am not speculating, I am investing. I don't bet because that's like throwing money in the drain. I follow the trend and enter when big players enter and exit when they exit.
iPunter ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 10:04) Posted:
" Bet" means just that.
Any speculative activity is essentially a bet.
Whether one perceives the next move as a
90% probability, or higher, one cannot
know for sure. And this is where the
practice of cutting loss comes in.
By the way, mindless gambling is
very different from betting.
Stock bettting is much, much
more demanding than gambling...
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" Bet" means just that.
Any speculative activity is essentially a bet.
Whether one
perceives the next move as a
90% probability, or higher,
one cannot know for sure. And this is where the
practice of cutting loss comes in.
By the way, mindless gambling is
very different from betting.
Stock bettting is
much, much more demanding than gambling...
Don't bet! If you bet, it is no different from gambling. Be a swing investor.
I agree no one can tell tomorrow, however if you understand rallies and reaction and what drive big interest players, you will know why NOL is due for a rally.
If you continue watching, no action will be taken, and once you took an action after you decide, price already soar.
Ronald K
iPunter ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 08:51) Posted:
Actually no one knows.
It may be a long-term downtrend (the market or a stock).
It may be a tech rebound. It may be a trend reversal.
It an be anything. No one can tell tomorrow.
Thus, all one can do is watch the outcome
as the market unfolds. All is betting...
Hulumas ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 08:43) Posted:
| I am afraid long term down trend |
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Actually
no one knows.
It may be a long-term downtrend (the market or a stock).
It may be a tech rebound. It may be a trend reversal.
It an be anything. No one can tell tomorrow.
Thus, all one can do is watch the outcome
as the market unfolds. All is betting...
Hulumas ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 08:43) Posted:
I am afraid long term down trend.
stockmarketmind ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 00:49) Posted:
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I am afraid long term down trend.
stockmarketmind ( Date: 18-Jun-2011 00:49) Posted:
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