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Rosesyrup
    05-Nov-2013 14:51  
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Wah thanks for the notification ah....I never even notice. Ok come we hold tight. No 3 bucks no sell.

Solidsnake      ( Date: 05-Nov-2013 14:50) Posted:

Lai liao...

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 04-Nov-2013 21:47) Posted:



Relax. Hold. Will go up one.

Currently lack liquidility and big players in the market.

Small players all going for pennies stocks only


 
 
Solidsnake
    05-Nov-2013 14:50  
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Lai liao...

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 04-Nov-2013 21:47) Posted:



Relax. Hold. Will go up one.

Currently lack liquidility and big players in the market.

Small players all going for pennies stocks only.

Myabaang      ( Date: 04-Nov-2013 21:24) Posted:

to be exact, LKY is willing to protect the aviation hub at the expense of SIA, whilst, in sea port realm, the through put produced  by NOL is critical as it is strengthening the competitive advantage of Singapore as a leading port


 
 
Rosesyrup
    04-Nov-2013 21:47  
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Relax. Hold. Will go up one.

Currently lack liquidility and big players in the market.

Small players all going for pennies stocks only.

Myabaang      ( Date: 04-Nov-2013 21:24) Posted:

to be exact, LKY is willing to protect the aviation hub at the expense of SIA, whilst, in sea port realm, the through put produced  by NOL is critical as it is strengthening the competitive advantage of Singapore as a leading port.

sgng123      ( Date: 01-Nov-2013 12:15) Posted:

Agreed Singapore government had poured in US4Billion dollars for fleet renewal program, as usual those big ticket purchase always yield result in long term as per Singapore norm. SIA also another big support from government US$17 Billion for fleet renewal and changi airport renewal. Singapore is trading, financial and commerce city, investing in logistic/financial/transportation stock could never go wrong always got ah gong backing.


 

 
Myabaang
    04-Nov-2013 21:24  
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to be exact, LKY is willing to protect the aviation hub at the expense of SIA, whilst, in sea port realm, the through put produced  by NOL is critical as it is strengthening the competitive advantage of Singapore as a leading port.

sgng123      ( Date: 01-Nov-2013 12:15) Posted:

Agreed Singapore government had poured in US4Billion dollars for fleet renewal program, as usual those big ticket purchase always yield result in long term as per Singapore norm. SIA also another big support from government US$17 Billion for fleet renewal and changi airport renewal. Singapore is trading, financial and commerce city, investing in logistic/financial/transportation stock could never go wrong always got ah gong backing.

 
 
Lucky03
    04-Nov-2013 09:38  
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From Dr YC Chan Oct 2013 issue which mentioned NOL in the end of the report -

Dear Friends
After US Fed?s meeting on 30 October, matters relating to bond purchases and extremely low interest rate remained status quo. US Stocks however, dipped after hitting new high. The reaction is not unusual after short selling on good news. Before the good news was announced, the stock markets went up, which means the concluded result was expected by the markets.
Since the Fed?s market withdrwal forenounced in May this year, US stocks have dropped 3 times, conspicuously to rock bottom: 1 time in mid June 2 time end of August 3 time early October. The withdrawal does not happen this time round, but it will definitely happen in time to come. Thus I believe US stocks will repeatedly go up and down under the shadow of market withdrawal influence.

For the short term, US stocks will move independently depending on the performance of invidual listed companies. The local market should have its focus on the Third Plenary Session of the Chinese Communist Party and the the People?s Bank?s money supplies. US Fed will have another meeting in December. It should be the last meeting attended by the incumbent Chairman Bernanke who initiated the Quantitative Easing Monetary Policy (QE) of the US. Morally Bernanke should not simply leave as it is. Thus I am somewhat concern the December meeting might unexpectedly start to withdraw from the markets prior to Bernanke?s departure, and to let him handle the post withdrawal issues.

In December US Republican Party and the Democratic Party will negotiate once again on US national debt ceiling issue. The October 17 agreement was to push back the issue for 3 months Republicans will keep using the debt ceiling issue to force Obama to cut governmental expenditures. In September this year, US financial expenditures were surprisingly in black with some surpluses. I believe this could be the result of the Republicans? past successful automatic deficit reduction budget plan. In fact, if Obama would follow Clinton not spending frivolously, US tax revenue would exceed expenditure with no deficit, and the debt ceiling issue would not have happened.
Awhile ago, the share price of SkyOne Holdings plummeted. Since large numbers of dragon stocks and those Singapore companies with investments in China public listed in Singapore, problems often surface due to relatively poorer corporate governance in China. On the othe hand, there could be some people, reporters in particular, having received money from a 3 party,
purposefully spread unfavourable faked news of a company to let its share price drop, so that the 3 party who pay the money make profit from short selling prior to the faked news. Lately the Chinese Public Security Authorities arrest a Guangzhou New Express (广 州 新 快 报 )reporter suspected of spreading unfavourable faked news of Hong Kong listed Zoomlion (中 联 重 科 ).
How to we tackle this kind of problems?

The only way is to deversify your investments. Be wary of those manipulated dragon stocks. Do not over panic, search into the sources of the news to see if it is from some ones with motives spreading rumours.

NOL has turned around in 3
quarter. The worst senario of freight forwarders should be over.
 
 
banana
    02-Nov-2013 17:11  
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sorry wrong post

banana      ( Date: 02-Nov-2013 17:10) Posted:

u really knw hw to copy and paste!

 

 
banana
    02-Nov-2013 17:10  
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u really knw hw to copy and paste!
 
 
Lucky03
    02-Nov-2013 00:56  
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Spain's Outlook Changed to Stable From Negative by Fitch

sgng123      ( Date: 01-Nov-2013 16:24) Posted:

SCFI soars 240pt again another US$1000 GRI successful very kelong thing. Carriers controls the market and when they get enough market share and kick out the weak players, they would gang up and push rate very high to recover 3 years of loss. watch it. low season still can get very big gri through, very shady business environment not open no transparency. Ship price can swing very wild when world economy recovers.

 
 
Bluevaio
    01-Nov-2013 16:51  
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Friend u r 100% right. See who created cars, computers, phones, and etc....? The ang mo ! They open their factories in asia, we manufacture for them, and then they sell back to us . Who got the money? Funny right? 

Hawkeye      ( Date: 31-Oct-2013 13:14) Posted:



The reality is Asians are all Slaves.

We work hard to make good stuffs for the Whiteman who are so smart that they create something called money to pay us and IOU.

We keep those IOU and keep working very hard to make good things for them.

They only need to print paper to pay us for it and have nice good life with good quality of life and

We Asians are so stupid that we keep working hard and keep those paper money in the bank and being so happy about it without enjoying the life.

So Trading the Best no need to work and just make money and quicky spend to enjoy life.

Dont follow the Goverment and Asians in particular

Ha Ha Ha Ha

sgng123      ( Date: 31-Oct-2013 11:53) Posted:

this is realty guys if not for fed reserve QE, the whole world would be in depression. Just need to see the weak global demand for good and u know. If next year US and Europe economy do not recover and fed reserve pull out, worldwide market crash STI can sliced in half to 1500.


 
 
sgng123
    01-Nov-2013 16:24  
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SCFI soars 240pt again another US$1000 GRI successful very kelong thing. Carriers controls the market and when they get enough market share and kick out the weak players, they would gang up and push rate very high to recover 3 years of loss. watch it. low season still can get very big gri through, very shady business environment not open no transparency. Ship price can swing very wild when world economy recovers.
 

 
heisuke
    01-Nov-2013 15:58  
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i wish it can really go up to $2 :)

Hawkeye      ( Date: 01-Nov-2013 12:36) Posted:



BB is GIC - 150+billion and Temasek - 200 +billion

Most NOL shares is hold by BB. Not much floating. One sneeze NOL price go up to $2.00 liao

Ah Gong says work hard dont just get money from share market, that is why NOL is still at 1.05 to 1.08

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 31-Oct-2013 22:22) Posted:



Doesn't matter whether profit low or high, above or below expectation. The fact that NOL is finally able to produce OPERATING profit after 4 years of operating losses, prove the viability of this business. And the quarter report is already good enough to give certainty over future cashflow and profit which would be translated into present  share price.

Sure have other  BBs who know how to appreciate the potential of this counter


 
 
ascend88
    01-Nov-2013 15:12  
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yes....ah kong company.... and ah kong will not come in...just for u and me....

but once ah kong wants money....and he will come in.....at that time u will not know what hit u....

ride the wave....good luck bro...

Hawkeye      ( Date: 01-Nov-2013 12:36) Posted:



BB is GIC - 150+billion and Temasek - 200 +billion

Most NOL shares is hold by BB. Not much floating. One sneeze NOL price go up to $2.00 liao

Ah Gong says work hard dont just get money from share market, that is why NOL is still at 1.05 to 1.08

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 31-Oct-2013 22:22) Posted:



Doesn't matter whether profit low or high, above or below expectation. The fact that NOL is finally able to produce OPERATING profit after 4 years of operating losses, prove the viability of this business. And the quarter report is already good enough to give certainty over future cashflow and profit which would be translated into present  share price.

Sure have other  BBs who know how to appreciate the potential of this counter


 
 
Hawkeye
    01-Nov-2013 12:36  
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BB is GIC - 150+billion and Temasek - 200 +billion

Most NOL shares is hold by BB. Not much floating. One sneeze NOL price go up to $2.00 liao

Ah Gong says work hard dont just get money from share market, that is why NOL is still at 1.05 to 1.08

Rosesyrup      ( Date: 31-Oct-2013 22:22) Posted:



Doesn't matter whether profit low or high, above or below expectation. The fact that NOL is finally able to produce OPERATING profit after 4 years of operating losses, prove the viability of this business. And the quarter report is already good enough to give certainty over future cashflow and profit which would be translated into present  share price.

Sure have other  BBs who know how to appreciate the potential of this counter.

sgng123      ( Date: 31-Oct-2013 22:13) Posted:

It is 2009 all over again low freight rate and low growth. Hope 2014 would be another 2010 with world economy recover for good. So much central bank easing for the last 2 years and inflation remain low, slow growth all due to political uncertainty in US and Europe.


 
 
sgng123
    01-Nov-2013 12:15  
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Agreed Singapore government had poured in US4Billion dollars for fleet renewal program, as usual those big ticket purchase always yield result in long term as per Singapore norm. SIA also another big support from government US$17 Billion for fleet renewal and changi airport renewal. Singapore is trading, financial and commerce city, investing in logistic/financial/transportation stock could never go wrong always got ah gong backing.
 
 
Rosesyrup
    31-Oct-2013 22:22  
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Doesn't matter whether profit low or high, above or below expectation. The fact that NOL is finally able to produce OPERATING profit after 4 years of operating losses, prove the viability of this business. And the quarter report is already good enough to give certainty over future cashflow and profit which would be translated into present  share price.

Sure have other  BBs who know how to appreciate the potential of this counter.

sgng123      ( Date: 31-Oct-2013 22:13) Posted:

It is 2009 all over again low freight rate and low growth. Hope 2014 would be another 2010 with world economy recover for good. So much central bank easing for the last 2 years and inflation remain low, slow growth all due to political uncertainty in US and Europe.

 

 
sgng123
    31-Oct-2013 22:13  
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It is 2009 all over again low freight rate and low growth. Hope 2014 would be another 2010 with world economy recover for good. So much central bank easing for the last 2 years and inflation remain low, slow growth all due to political uncertainty in US and Europe.
 
 
Lucky03
    31-Oct-2013 16:17  
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Buy for future. I believe NOL may see its worst. Bet on Europe recovery.

WanSiTong      ( Date: 31-Oct-2013 14:13) Posted:



Neptune Orient Lines - No respite from freight rate woes

Written By Stock Fanatic on Thursday, October 31, 2013

? Rate restorations on Asia-Europe in June-July helped container liner division to break even in 3Q13


? But results still slightly below as Intra-Asia rates plunged owing to capacity cascading from mainlanes

? Current spot rates on Asia-Europe are back at panic levels again , but no major capacity reduction measures seen

? Maintain HOLD with TP adjusted to S$1.10

Highlights
Muted peak season, as expected. NOL reported headline net profit of US$20m in 3Q13, compared to our expectations of about US$12m, but this includes about US$34m realized forex gains, and hence results are slightly worse than expected. Liner volumes were down 5% y-o-y, and interestingly 5% q-o-q as well, despite it being the traditional peak season.

Intra-Asia volumes were the worst affected (down 12% q-o-q) as were Intra-Asia rates (down 7% q-o-q), possibly due to the cascading of capacity from the mainlanes. Asia-Europe rates recovered on average by 10% q-o-q as a result of the rate restoration programmes in June-July, and combined with NOL?s cost control measures, resulted in better operating performance compared to 2Q. However, profits are likely to be short-lived, as we explain below.

Our View
Rates are quickly back to the bottom. We had highlighted earlier that we do not expect the July rate increases to stick beyond 3Q. As it turned out, spot Asia-Europe rates started falling sharply from end-August and at US$661/ TEU now, are down 60% since early August. The rate plunge is largely due to carriers? failure to keep capacity in check, with the introduction of new 13,000-18,000 TEU ships in the last few months.

Though liners have variously announced rate increases ranging from US$600-1,000 per TEU from 1st November, we expect the impact to be short-lived, as no capacity reduction measures for the low season has been announced, unlike last year, when Maersk, G6 and CKYH Alliances had taken off loops.



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Unfavourable demand-supply dynamics continue to persist. We keep our numbers relatively unchanged and maintain our HOLD call on the stock, with an adjusted TP of S$1.10, pegged to 1.0x FY14P/BV. Despite hopes of a slow economic recovery, we do not think NOL will be able to achieve normalised returns before FY15, given the influx of capacity still scheduled to enter the industry, going forward. (Read Report)




 
 
WanSiTong
    31-Oct-2013 14:13  
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Neptune Orient Lines - No respite from freight rate woes

Written By Stock Fanatic on Thursday, October 31, 2013

? Rate restorations on Asia-Europe in June-July helped container liner division to break even in 3Q13


? But results still slightly below as Intra-Asia rates plunged owing to capacity cascading from mainlanes

? Current spot rates on Asia-Europe are back at panic levels again , but no major capacity reduction measures seen

? Maintain HOLD with TP adjusted to S$1.10

Highlights
Muted peak season, as expected. NOL reported headline net profit of US$20m in 3Q13, compared to our expectations of about US$12m, but this includes about US$34m realized forex gains, and hence results are slightly worse than expected. Liner volumes were down 5% y-o-y, and interestingly 5% q-o-q as well, despite it being the traditional peak season.

Intra-Asia volumes were the worst affected (down 12% q-o-q) as were Intra-Asia rates (down 7% q-o-q), possibly due to the cascading of capacity from the mainlanes. Asia-Europe rates recovered on average by 10% q-o-q as a result of the rate restoration programmes in June-July, and combined with NOL?s cost control measures, resulted in better operating performance compared to 2Q. However, profits are likely to be short-lived, as we explain below.

Our View
Rates are quickly back to the bottom. We had highlighted earlier that we do not expect the July rate increases to stick beyond 3Q. As it turned out, spot Asia-Europe rates started falling sharply from end-August and at US$661/ TEU now, are down 60% since early August. The rate plunge is largely due to carriers? failure to keep capacity in check, with the introduction of new 13,000-18,000 TEU ships in the last few months.

Though liners have variously announced rate increases ranging from US$600-1,000 per TEU from 1st November, we expect the impact to be short-lived, as no capacity reduction measures for the low season has been announced, unlike last year, when Maersk, G6 and CKYH Alliances had taken off loops.



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Unfavourable demand-supply dynamics continue to persist. We keep our numbers relatively unchanged and maintain our HOLD call on the stock, with an adjusted TP of S$1.10, pegged to 1.0x FY14P/BV. Despite hopes of a slow economic recovery, we do not think NOL will be able to achieve normalised returns before FY15, given the influx of capacity still scheduled to enter the industry, going forward. (Read Report)



 
 
Hawkeye
    31-Oct-2013 13:14  
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The reality is Asians are all Slaves.

We work hard to make good stuffs for the Whiteman who are so smart that they create something called money to pay us and IOU.

We keep those IOU and keep working very hard to make good things for them.

They only need to print paper to pay us for it and have nice good life with good quality of life and

We Asians are so stupid that we keep working hard and keep those paper money in the bank and being so happy about it without enjoying the life.

So Trading the Best no need to work and just make money and quicky spend to enjoy life.

Dont follow the Goverment and Asians in particular

Ha Ha Ha Ha

sgng123      ( Date: 31-Oct-2013 11:53) Posted:

this is realty guys if not for fed reserve QE, the whole world would be in depression. Just need to see the weak global demand for good and u know. If next year US and Europe economy do not recover and fed reserve pull out, worldwide market crash STI can sliced in half to 1500.

 
 
sgng123
    31-Oct-2013 11:53  
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this is realty guys if not for fed reserve QE, the whole world would be in depression. Just need to see the weak global demand for good and u know. If next year US and Europe economy do not recover and fed reserve pull out, worldwide market crash STI can sliced in half to 1500.
 
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