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alto26
    16-Aug-2006 17:40  
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I did not went in when it drop yesterday, but like they say, good or bad, no one knows, it came back today. wondering if it is a good time to enter.
 
 
alto26
    15-Aug-2006 17:15  
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Seems like no upside after results announced. I was thinking of getting in yesterday, thank God did  not.
 
 
teeth53
    20-Jul-2006 18:22  
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Merrill lynch  report is still valid till now, so having a px targetof $1.26 is still on, finishing 1st on top vol of 63.5mil, +7cents or +9% to $0.845 
 

 
Nostradamus
    16-Jul-2006 20:35  
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China is set to spend US$200 b on renewable energy over the next 15 years. Chinese and foreign firms are erecting 40-storey wind turbines, installing solar panels, and conducting tests on corn for biofuel. China Sun will benefit from corn-based biofuel.
 
 
Nostradamus
    08-Jul-2006 21:24  
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Merrill Lynch report also noted that the company is exploring potential acquisitions to expand into higher-value starch sweeteners.
 
 
teeth53
    06-Jul-2006 20:00  
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ChinaSun look likely to test one dollars after din dong din dong, after taken profit and after flashing out profit takers. house trader may target it after don no liao price will head North or South!!!.
 

 
mamasan
    05-Jul-2006 21:42  
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rotational play, from A to Z, or from Z to A? clockwise or counter-clockwise ? or random ?
 
 
teeth53
    05-Jul-2006 21:39  
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Next target is FabChem liao.
 
 
teeth53
    05-Jul-2006 21:38  
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On profit taking today.
 
 
Nostradamus
    05-Jul-2006 20:47  
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Merrill Lynch has a price target of $1.26. Merrill estimated that demand for corn starch and modified starch will grow at 15% and 10% respectively, while China Sun's new production capacity will boost earnings.
 

 
mamasan
    05-Jul-2006 07:35  
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analysts visited Luzhou in Liaoning...
 
 
teeth53
    04-Jul-2006 18:58  
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With a 20% profit, tmr can see a little in profit taking liao. I am oso sure ppl took profit today. Just wondering which 2nd China stocks will ML cover this time around, isit china milk, China Ess..,China Petro, Hengxin, Celestial, Luzhou,  Jiutian, SunEast or even chnia paper and so on........Have a good guess, guess rite, no px yah...
 
 
teeth53
    04-Jul-2006 18:49  
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ChinaSun started very bright and sunset oso very bright due to Merrill Lynch Shanghai-based stock delicated to monitoring all sgx-listed china stocks. It very 1st coverage is on China Sun (more to follow up) , a buy call with a target px of $1.26 cts.
 
 
mamasan
    04-Jul-2006 15:43  
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profit taking starting now.. also short covering.. how will it end ? may be 78 cts.
 
 
mamasan
    04-Jul-2006 13:39  
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dong fang hong, tai yang shen, zhong guo zu le ge mao ze dong..
 

 
idumall
    04-Jul-2006 12:51  
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Temasek is probably behaving like overnight rich -throwing money at around rather than truly understanding what they are going into and developing an acumen for good ideas.
 
 
sanye2006
    04-Jul-2006 12:24  
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Wah, Sun is impressive today!

Anyone knows why the big rise today?
 
 
mamasan
    04-Jul-2006 09:38  
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sunrise, not sunset. ..
 
 
zhuge_liang
    28-Jun-2006 10:43  
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But unlike corn-based ethanol, cellulosic ethanol can be made from a variety of things that might otherwise be considered waste - sewage sludge, switchgrass, plant stalks, trees, even coal - virtually anything that contains carbon.

Ashworth said there are an estimated one billion tons of such material available in the U.S. every year, enough for 100 billion gallons of ethanol.

While it's not feasible to actually go out and collect every ounce of that one billion tons, he said it's not unreasonable to expect ethanol to replace 40 billion gallons of gasoline in the near future.

"There's a lot of venture capitol out there that's willing to invest in cellulosic ethanol," he said. "You're likely to see some plants built in the next 12 to 18 months."

Entrepreneurs are in fact pressing ahead with ambitious plans. "We know the technology is proven," said Jim Stewart, a spokesman for Bioengineering Resources Inc., or BRI, an Arkansas-based biofuel outfit. "It's at the point of commercialization."

Stewart said BRI uses a patented bacterial culture to transform organic matter into ethanol, and can produce a gallon of it at a fourth the retail cost of a gallon of gas.

He said the company plans to have 4 plants operating commercially within the next 16 to 18 months, but some industry-watchers believe it will be at least several years before cellulosic ethanol production will become commerically viable.

Vancouver-based Syntec Biofuel uses a different process to make ethanol. It turns the organic matter into gas and then moves the gas over a metal catalyst, which then turns it into liquid fuel. But the end result is the same.

Syntec hopes to have a full-scale plant up and running in three years, then plans to make most of its money by selling the plant's design to outside producers.

Company spokesman Jeff Eltom touted the efficiency of Syntec's process, saying it plans to get 10 units of energy out of every one unit they put in.

"We're not going to totally replace gasoline," said Eltom. "But we can take a big chunk out of what we import and become more energy efficient."

Eltom's comment reflects the conventional wisdom in the alternative energy field: As the shift is made from fossil fuels to other options, it won't be any one single thing that meets the world's energy needs, but rather a mix of sources that will do so.

Still, not everyone believes cellulose ethanol will be part of that mix in the near term.

When the U.S. Energy Information Administration released its long term world energy outlook earlier this week, it projected a surge in U.S. oil consumption over the next 25 years, mostly due to transportation needs.

The agency said it does take new technologies into account when making its predictions, but that it believes cellulose ethanol is still too expensive to compete in the market place with corn ethanol and gasoline.

"It would take a breakthrough in the costs," said Andy Kydes, a forecaster at EIA. "It could happen, and we have hopes for it, but right now it's not on our radar."
 
 
zhuge_liang
    28-Jun-2006 10:39  
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Last month Goldman Sachs, the world's largest investment bank, poured US$27 million into Iogen, a Canadian-based biotech specializing in ethanol made from cellulose.

It used to be thought that this fuel, which some argue has the potential to replace more than two thirds of all gasoline used in the U.S., was decades away from commercial viability.

But high gas prices, a touch of technical innovation, and a healthy dose of capital may move that date up.

"There are a lot of people who think the technology is there," and could be competitive even if oil prices return to US$30 a barrel, said Greg Bohannon, a managing partner at Greenrock Capital, a California-based private equity fund that focuses on renewable energy. "Why would Goldman Sachs invest in a company that's not going to be commercially viable for 10 years? Chances are, they didn't.

Most ethanol currently produced in the U.S. is made from corn kernels.

Its benefits have been well documented. Ethanol is clean burning. It's renewable. And it costs about US$1 a gallon to produce. Existing cars can run on 10% ethanol with no modifications, and they'd need only about US$100 worth of tinkering to be 85% ethanol powered. And, perhaps most importantly, it's domestically produced.

But there are a few major problems with corn-based ethanol.

First, it takes a lot of energy to make it. According to the Department of Energy, most studies put the ratio as low as 1:1.4 - meaning that for every one unit of energy spent, only 1.4 units of ethanol energy are created. Indeed, there are some camps who believe producing corn-based ethanol actually results in a net loss of energy.

Second, an expensive infrastructure would need to be built if people started using mostly ethanol in their vehicles, since ethanol is water soluble and the existing pipelines and filling station equipment for gasoline are not completely water tight.

Third, there's not enough corn available. John Ashworth, a biomass expert at the Department of Energy's National Renewable Energy Laboratory, said corn could only supply about 12 to 18 billion gallons of ethanol a year, or about 10% of the nation's 140 billion gallon-a-year gasoline habit.

After that, ethanol would start to run up the price of corn, raising the cost of everything from eggs to Coca Cola. Of course the same problem would emerge with ethanol made with sugarcane or soy or any other food crop.
 
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