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i can see you are really scared ... until you spell wrongly what is " bunky jump" . i also wondering why so many sell this stock 10.2cts leh ... is it the rubber kenah stuck. 

TheWolfman      ( Date: 01-Nov-2012 20:23) Posted: This stock does a bunky jump, anyone know what happen?

 

This stock does a bunky jump, anyone know what happen? 

 

rubber prices rallied close to 5%..

beneficiaries for higher rubber prices are Sri trang and GMG..

gd luck dyodd

 

Ha Ha, somebody must have short this counter.......

Synthetic rubber made up of natural rubber blended with compounds supplied by company such as Monsato.  In other words natural rubber is absolutely necessarily as one of the components to complete the process. 

Most of the day to day items are produced with just natural rubber e.g glove.

 

 

I have read all arguments and my opinion is that Bop is correct in many aspect of synthetic rubber being in some form of competition with natural rubber.  I think you have not read the postings where he pasted the articles of natural vs synthetic rubber and the scientific aspects (names and componds).  Furthermore the ones misleading us are you Tianci and Papaya face.  The reasons are quite obvious.  First Tianci tarok Bop saying he did not understand rubber, and then later stated that maybe in the future synthetic R could substitute the natural ones, which was exactly what had happened in the past.  Bop pointed out in bold print at the article that synthetic rubber was used for tires in the earlier days but not nowadays.  So Bop was correct. Probably Tianci tried to impressed that he knew alot, but not so lah from what he himself contracted himself shown.

I am quite sure that Bop was right because the nature of synthetic rubber was that it was meant not to change shape too much, among one of its properties.    Probably using synthetic rubber  might be more costlier instead of cheaper since much more works are added in the process.  But whatever, I am vested in GMG and making alot of money now.  Have sold for some profits too.  Waiting for the next move.  Cheers..

 

Out with profits for the second round, GMG just brokeout.

http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.sg/2012/08/gmg-art-of-no-volume.html 

 

Out with a small profits in GMG first.

http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.sg/2012/08/gmg-profit-for-confidence.html 

 

To better have a feel of  the demand and supply of natural rubber, go to SGX website All-in-Info  and refer to GMG Global's recent  announcement  on its results. The Presentation slides for 2Q12 results  broadcast on 26/7/12 has the statistics.  This wll show that there will always be a requirement/demand for Natural Rubber. Natural Rubber CANNOT BE 100%  substituted by synthetic rubber.  For info, formula in the compound used in making synthethic rubber includes a natural rubber component.  The current uptrend in oil price  will also have an impact on rubber prices.        

Other notable point  for GMG is its aim  to increase  target output  to 450,000 mt by 2014. This is more than double  FY11's output of 206,947 mt.  Therefore expect earnings to continue rising.

Technically, charts also looks good for more upside. Good luck and stay vested.

 

Hi Papayaface, tks for your understanding.

He was trying to mislead people with misinformation.  Hence the need to correct what was clearly incorrect.  There are many products with applications that require to be made with natural rubber as synthetic rubber is not the best form of raw materials to be used.    As an example, abrasive resistant properties such as the shoe or conveyor sheets, bridge bearings (very noticeable are the elevated highway bridges in Thailand) clearly requires to be made with natural rubber. 

Cost of compounding synthetic rubber rises in tandem with the price of oil. 

 

When not able to offer sound argument, yet resort to name calling is the hallmark of an uncultured person. 

 

 

papayaface      ( Date: 19-Aug-2012 09:49) Posted: Agreed with you totally Tianchi. Natural rubber has its own unique qualities which synthetic rubber cannot completely replace for certain uses.  Otherwise all tyres would be made of 100% synthetic rubber by now. Does he know how  the compound is made? Bopanha is obviously trying to talk the price down cos of his bleeding shorts.  You were not talking about comparing natural and synthetic price anyway?  He's obviously confused and trying to impress wrongly.   Tianchi      ( Date: 19-Aug-2012 00:56) Posted: My suggestion is avoid reading from internet and take the information at face value.  Somebody who knows about rubber would know that in a variety of instances, natural rubber application does not really compete with synthetic rubber services.    Each is made for a specific working parameter and under those circumstances, how can they possibly compete?  Neither can you simply substitute it if the services are not the same.

 

Agreed with you totally Tianchi. Natural rubber has its own unique qualities which synthetic rubber cannot completely replace for certain uses.  Otherwise all tyres would be made of 100% synthetic rubber by now. Does he know how  the compound is made? Bopanha is obviously trying to talk the price down cos of his bleeding shorts.  You were not talking about comparing natural and synthetic price anyway?  He's obviously confused and trying to impress wrongly.  

Tianchi      ( Date: 19-Aug-2012 00:56) Posted: My suggestion is avoid reading from internet and take the information at face value.  Somebody who knows about rubber would know that in a variety of instances, natural rubber application does not really compete with synthetic rubber services.    Each is made for a specific working parameter and under those circumstances, how can they possibly compete?  Neither can you simply substitute it if the services are not the same.   Bopanha      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 10:47) Posted: Honestly rubber products have been over the years replaced by synthetic products.  The only thing they haven't replaced with are the rubber tyres. Because of fact scarcely people are tapping rubber nowadays, rubber will become a rare produce in the near future.  Rubber tappers are going for better paid jobs in other industries.  In actual fact rubber will become more and more expensive, that is why our car tyres are costing us a bomb.  Previously I could have 4 tyres for less than $300 bucks, but now prices are getting more than triple for continental ones and about double for Japanese ones.  Chinese tyres are still quite cheap though. All said, by right GMG is a bit cheap at current price.  I believe it is a good buy.  Lol.

 

Good morning, today is Sunday and I woke up early as usual to find your reply astonishing.

Your mind is quite narrow as you have a narrow scope of knowledge, even if you think you are a rubber expert. Forumers would surely like to know if you have written anything on rubber that would like to supersede the knowledge presently available in commonplace? That is since you asked not to gather knowledge from internet? I see you coming back to SJ after a lapse of more than two years, trying to take some pot shots or trying to introduce a subject that you probably narrowly know about. My advice to you is not to anyhow make comments on something simply to digress. Any alternative uses of anything in use would surely affect a price of that original matterial or goods that directly or indirectly competes. For example newspapers and social media coffee and tea etc even if these products are not in real competition, say natural gas and kerosene. The extent of price being affected may not be significant though in some situation. You are saying synthetic rubber price could not affect latex rubber maybe because you think apple price cannot be compared with orange price just since you are not talking about fruits? Quite curious where do you study your economics? 

Tianchi      ( Date: 19-Aug-2012 00:56) Posted: My suggestion is avoid reading from internet and take the information at face value.  Somebody who knows about rubber would know that in a variety of instances, natural rubber application does not really compete with synthetic rubber services.    Each is made for a specific working parameter and under those circumstances, how can they possibly compete?  Neither can you simply substitute it if the services are not the same.   Bopanha      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 10:47) Posted: Honestly rubber products have been over the years replaced by synthetic products.  The only thing they haven't replaced with are the rubber tyres. Because of fact scarcely people are tapping rubber nowadays, rubber will become a rare produce in the near future.  Rubber tappers are going for better paid jobs in other industries.  In actual fact rubber will become more and more expensive, that is why our car tyres are costing us a bomb.  Previously I could have 4 tyres for less than $300 bucks, but now prices are getting more than triple for continental ones and about double for Japanese ones.  Chinese tyres are still quite cheap though. All said, by right GMG is a bit cheap at current price.  I believe it is a good buy.  Lol.

 

My suggestion is avoid reading from internet and take the information at face value.  Somebody who knows about rubber would know that in a variety of instances, natural rubber application does not really compete with synthetic rubber services.    Each is made for a specific working parameter and under those circumstances, how can they possibly compete?  Neither can you simply substitute it if the services are not the same.

 

Bopanha      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 10:47) Posted: Honestly rubber products have been over the years replaced by synthetic products.  The only thing they haven't replaced with are the rubber tyres. Because of fact scarcely people are tapping rubber nowadays, rubber will become a rare produce in the near future.  Rubber tappers are going for better paid jobs in other industries.  In actual fact rubber will become more and more expensive, that is why our car tyres are costing us a bomb.  Previously I could have 4 tyres for less than $300 bucks, but now prices are getting more than triple for continental ones and about double for Japanese ones.  Chinese tyres are still quite cheap though. All said, by right GMG is a bit cheap at current price.  I believe it is a good buy.  Lol. rutheone1905      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 10:23) Posted: oic maybe tat the reason for chiong but just be careful becos those sources tat provide me info r all after my $$$ so i know it maybe just a trap.  i monitor rubber price becos my cars change tires always pinch my heart damn expensive few months ago, so i got this habit of monitoring rubber price lor.

 

There are many other applications that are best served with the use of natural rubber as opposed to compounded rubber.    It may be due to technical requirement of that particular application or it may be due to cost reason.    Fender   for jetty is one example that is more logical to use natural rubber.  Another example is bridge bearing etc

For oil resistant, yes, it is better to use synthetic rubber and here again there are different types for resistant for different aromatic content.  What about blasting application?  Or super heated steam?

My earlier comment was to correct misconception that synthetic rubber can  automatically be  substituted for natural rubber.    Maybe one day perhaps, but that would still be a long way away.

Have a good evening.

Vested in GMG

Bopanha      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 22:43) Posted: Natural vs synthetic rubber  Natural rubber, coming from  latex, is mainly poly-cis-isoprene  containing traces of impurities. Although it exhibits many excellent properties, natural rubber is often inferior to synthetic rubbers, especially with respect to its thermal stability and its compatibility with petroleum products. Synthetic rubber is made by the polymerization of a variety of petroleum-based precursors called  monomers. The most prevalent synthetic rubbers are  styrene-butadiene rubbers  (SBR) derived from the copolymerization of  styrene  and  1,3-butadiene. Other synthetic rubbers are prepared from  isoprene  (2-methyl-1,3-butadiene),  chloroprene  (2-chloro-1,3-butadiene), and  isobutylene  (methylpropene) with a small percentage of isoprene for  cross-linking. These and other monomers can be mixed in various proportions to be  copolymerized  to produce products with a range of physical, mechanical, and chemical properties. The monomers can be produced pure and the addition of impurities or additives can be controlled by design to give optimal properties. Polymerization of pure monomers can be better controlled to give a desired proportion of  cis  andtrans  double bonds. Tianchi      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 21:00) Posted: Clearly you do know understand what is the different between synthetic rubber and natural rubber.    Synthetic rubbers are compounded rubber and are used for different application to that of natural rubber.

 

Have built up some shorts on this counter, but may cover soon my 50 lots on borrowed shares.

 

In 1879, Bouchardat created one form of synthetic rubber, producing a polymer of isoprene in a laboratory.[citation needed] The expanded use of motor vehicles, and particularly motor vehicle tires, starting in the 1890s, created increased demand for rubber. In 1909, a team headed by Fritz Hofmann, working at the Bayer laboratory in Elberfeld, Germany, also succeeded in polymerizing methyl isoprene, the first synthetic rubber.[2] Methyl isoprene is 2,3-dimethylbuta-1,3-diene.[3] The Russian scientist Sergei Vasiljevich Lebedev created the first rubber polymer synthesized from butadiene in 1910. This form of synthetic rubber provided the basis for the first large-scale commercial production, which occurred during World War I as a result of shortages of natural rubber. This early form of synthetic rubber was again replaced with natural rubber after the war ended, but investigations of synthetic rubber continued. Russian American Ivan Ostromislensky did significant early research on synthetic rubber and a couple of monomers in the early 20th century. Political problems that resulted from great fluctuations in the cost of natural rubber led to the enactment of the Stevenson Act in 1921. This act essentially created a cartel which supported rubber prices by regulating production (see OPEC), but insufficient supply, especially due to wartime shortages, also led to a search for alternative forms of synthetic rubber. By 1925 the price of natural rubber had increased to the point that many companies were exploring methods of producing synthetic rubber to compete with natural rubber. In the United States, the investigation focused on different materials than in Europe, building on the early laboratory work of Nieuwland.

 

Synthetic rubber

 

Natural vs synthetic rubber 

Natural rubber, coming from  latex, is mainly poly-cis-isoprene  containing traces of impurities. Although it exhibits many excellent properties, natural rubber is often inferior to synthetic rubbers, especially with respect to its thermal stability and its compatibility with petroleum products.

Synthetic rubber is made by the polymerization of a variety of petroleum-based precursors called  monomers. The most prevalent synthetic rubbers are  styrene-butadiene rubbers  (SBR) derived from the copolymerization of  styrene  and  1,3-butadiene. Other synthetic rubbers are prepared from  isoprene  (2-methyl-1,3-butadiene),  chloroprene  (2-chloro-1,3-butadiene), and  isobutylene  (methylpropene) with a small percentage of isoprene for  cross-linking. These and other monomers can be mixed in various proportions to be  copolymerized  to produce products with a range of physical, mechanical, and chemical properties. The monomers can be produced pure and the addition of impurities or additives can be controlled by design to give optimal properties. Polymerization of pure monomers can be better controlled to give a desired proportion of  cis  andtrans  double bonds.

Tianchi      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 21:00) Posted: Clearly you do know understand what is the different between synthetic rubber and natural rubber.    Synthetic rubbers are compounded rubber and are used for different application to that of natural rubber.        Bopanha      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 10:47) Posted: Honestly rubber products have been over the years replaced by synthetic products.  The only thing they haven't replaced with are the rubber tyres. Because of fact scarcely people are tapping rubber nowadays, rubber will become a rare produce in the near future.  Rubber tappers are going for better paid jobs in other industries.  In actual fact rubber will become more and more expensive, that is why our car tyres are costing us a bomb.  Previously I could have 4 tyres for less than $300 bucks, but now prices are getting more than triple for continental ones and about double for Japanese ones.  Chinese tyres are still quite cheap though. All said, by right GMG is a bit cheap at current price.  I believe it is a good buy.  Lol.

 

Clearly you do know understand what is the different between synthetic rubber and natural rubber.    Synthetic rubbers are compounded rubber and are used for different application to that of natural rubber.     

 

Bopanha      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 10:47) Posted: Honestly rubber products have been over the years replaced by synthetic products.  The only thing they haven't replaced with are the rubber tyres. Because of fact scarcely people are tapping rubber nowadays, rubber will become a rare produce in the near future.  Rubber tappers are going for better paid jobs in other industries.  In actual fact rubber will become more and more expensive, that is why our car tyres are costing us a bomb.  Previously I could have 4 tyres for less than $300 bucks, but now prices are getting more than triple for continental ones and about double for Japanese ones.  Chinese tyres are still quite cheap though. All said, by right GMG is a bit cheap at current price.  I believe it is a good buy.  Lol. rutheone1905      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 10:23) Posted: oic maybe tat the reason for chiong but just be careful becos those sources tat provide me info r all after my $$$ so i know it maybe just a trap.  i monitor rubber price becos my cars change tires always pinch my heart damn expensive few months ago, so i got this habit of monitoring rubber price lor.

 

Honestly rubber products have been over the years replaced by synthetic products.  The only thing they haven't replaced with are the rubber tyres. Because of fact scarcely people are tapping rubber nowadays, rubber will become a rare produce in the near future.  Rubber tappers are going for better paid jobs in other industries.  In actual fact rubber will become more and more expensive, that is why our car tyres are costing us a bomb.  Previously I could have 4 tyres for less than $300 bucks, but now prices are getting more than triple for continental ones and about double for Japanese ones.  Chinese tyres are still quite cheap though.

All said, by right GMG is a bit cheap at current price.  I believe it is a good buy.  Lol.

rutheone1905      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 10:23) Posted: oic maybe tat the reason for chiong but just be careful becos those sources tat provide me info r all after my $$$ so i know it maybe just a trap.  i monitor rubber price becos my cars change tires always pinch my heart damn expensive few months ago, so i got this habit of monitoring rubber price lor.   Bopanha      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 10:09) Posted: I heard they are starting an exchange to trade rubber.  When I was younger, I used to hear the radio, announcing the rubber prices.  Nowadays seems rubber got no market?

 

oic maybe tat the reason for chiong but just be careful becos those sources tat provide me info r all after my $$$ so i know it maybe just a trap. 

i monitor rubber price becos my cars change tires always pinch my heart damn expensive few months ago, so i got this habit of monitoring rubber price lor.

 

Bopanha      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 10:09) Posted: I heard they are starting an exchange to trade rubber.  When I was younger, I used to hear the radio, announcing the rubber prices.  Nowadays seems rubber got no market? rutheone1905      ( Date: 17-Aug-2012 09:45) Posted: yesterday received multiple " sources" feeds saying GMG gonna to chiong in recent days. when i check up the rubber price, sadly its is plummeting. GMG price correlates very closely to rubber price. so i would like ppl eyeing GMG to go carefully, it may be a false info before a massive sell down due to suppress rubber price going forward.