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hotstock
    27-Feb-2009 16:26  
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Whatever NAV or what it is very static....

 

Market value is more realistic but it is difficult to manage. Assets price goes up and down (see our property and our property counters). The real NAV is the market value . If the share price come down so much it means to hint the market value (dynamic NAV) is also down. If u continue to keep faith with the static NAV, u will be run down.

 

Do not use NAV and Share price to equate a share is cheap. It will be cheaper. Why ppl keep feeding us with those ratio is because it makes sense. It seems logic. but it is really wrong. This can only be used when the bulls are around not this time....
 
 
AnthonyTan
    27-Feb-2009 16:10  
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I agree with this saying "Bear market never last but fundamental do"
 
 
Andrew
    27-Feb-2009 10:55  
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I also like to look at NAV and NTA when buying stock.  But have stop since lehman.

I have notice that there is a big gap in share price and the NTA/NAV and across many companies.  This may implied that asset has become very difficult to value.

For example, you may value your factory at 1M based on valuation from third party, but if you try to get a real buyer, you may get a much lower price....say...for example 600K.

And this gap is opening up.

 



AnthonyTan      ( Date: 27-Feb-2009 10:22) Posted:



According to Shares Investment ,NAV S$0.456, PE 3.9 Yield 5.4

Now trading at 0.15, is it well below NAV.Is it true that if somebody take over the company, they can make 200% profit by disposing the co. assets.

 

 
Andrew
    27-Feb-2009 10:47  
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For Synear, for the whole of last year, profit has been dripping.  Q2 yoy -52%,  Q3 -54% and Q4 -80%.  The effect of the crisis start after Lehman, so the full year do not reflect that.

Should we complete the line, Synear may even report loss.

The next thing is on the 845M RMB, they ended the year with 1.9B RMB in cash.  So the burn rate is 1.1B RMB per year.  Which is higher than 845M they currently have.

Their trade receivable is also going up from 320M to 485M RMB.  Remember, they are selling goods with short expiry date, non-durable goods.  Not like sport shoe.....

They did not pay div this time round, and there is a witch hunt going on because of the Fiberchem Fiasco.  Ferrorchina imploded recently. All on an overnight basis.  Has added concern on the corporate goverance. 

The only comfort is that they have no debt.

Was vested.



AnthonyTan      ( Date: 27-Feb-2009 09:38) Posted:



Reported full-year net profit of RMB222.3 million amidst challenging conditions.

The group is currently in a net cash position.

Cash and bank balances of RMB 845.0 million

 

 
 
DnApeh
    27-Feb-2009 10:43  
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OK. i take this as buy. LOL!



dvdtsk      ( Date: 27-Feb-2009 10:29) Posted:

27 Feb 2009 10:25 MPST *DJ Synear Food Downgraded To Hold From Buy By UOB-KH

 

 

 

27 Feb 2009 10:26 MPST *DJ Synear Food Fair Value Cut To S$0.14 From S$0.37 By UOB-KH

 
 
AnthonyTan
    27-Feb-2009 10:39  
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I am going to invest in this co:-

1.Trading price $0.15 is ok.Within UOB-KH fair value. 1 cent more

2.Divident payout is good

3.Co. expanding in vast market

4. Bullish on China.
 

 
dvdtsk
    27-Feb-2009 10:29  
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27 Feb 2009 10:25 MPST *DJ Synear Food Downgraded To Hold From Buy By UOB-KH

 

 

 

27 Feb 2009 10:26 MPST *DJ Synear Food Fair Value Cut To S$0.14 From S$0.37 By UOB-KH
 
 
Hulumas
    27-Feb-2009 10:26  
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Yes, if only you are able to buy all market floating shares at the same price i.e. Sgd. 0.15 also the NAV figure is reliable, static and practically true!!!

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 27-Feb-2009 10:22) Posted:



According to Shares Investment ,NAV S$0.456, PE 3.9 Yield 5.4

Now trading at 0.15, is it well below NAV.Is it true that if somebody take over the company, they can make 200% profit by disposing the co. assets.

 
 
AnthonyTan
    27-Feb-2009 10:22  
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According to Shares Investment ,NAV S$0.456, PE 3.9 Yield 5.4

Now trading at 0.15, is it well below NAV.Is it true that if somebody take over the company, they can make 200% profit by disposing the co. assets.
 
 
DnApeh
    27-Feb-2009 10:11  
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WHY?

Hulumas      ( Date: 27-Feb-2009 09:56) Posted:

WORTH.

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 26-Feb-2009 12:20) Posted:

I intend to buy this counter at 15 cents.Is it worth 15 cents per share.Any possibility of  going down to 10 cents.Any comments appreciated.Thks.


 

 
Hulumas
    27-Feb-2009 09:56  
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WORTH.

AnthonyTan      ( Date: 26-Feb-2009 12:20) Posted:

I intend to buy this counter at 15 cents.Is it worth 15 cents per share.Any possibility of  going down to 10 cents.Any comments appreciated.Thks.

 
 
AnthonyTan
    27-Feb-2009 09:38  
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Reported full-year net profit of RMB222.3 million amidst challenging conditions.

The group is currently in a net cash position.

Cash and bank balances of RMB 845.0 million

 
 
 
AnthonyTan
    26-Feb-2009 13:48  
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Tkhs Andrew , anyway I will wait and see the results before further action.
 
 
Andrew
    26-Feb-2009 12:38  
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Synear is releasing results soon, why not wait after the event ?

Also, S-stocks has somewhat been shaken by the Fibechem incident, ChinaHX is being quiry by SGX over the execess trade receivable. 1.55B RMB but collected back 50M RMB.

Was vested.

 



AnthonyTan      ( Date: 26-Feb-2009 12:20) Posted:

I intend to buy this counter at 15 cents.Is it worth 15 cents per share.Any possibility of  going down to 10 cents.Any comments appreciated.Thks.

 
 
AnthonyTan
    26-Feb-2009 12:20  
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I intend to buy this counter at 15 cents.Is it worth 15 cents per share.Any possibility of  going down to 10 cents.Any comments appreciated.Thks.
 
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