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jasonrxz
    03-Apr-2008 17:58  
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Jobless claim have always been a big issue in States... just pray heard that the index will fall into the expectations of those analysists lor....

 

Saw from the economic calender.. there will be a FED meeting next tuesday on 8th? that will be the critical one rather than those coming out this week which left 2 trading days...

 

Again... think alot of us will not wish to hold stocks over the weekend right??? Tomorrow might be a good chance seeing that today will be a green closing.. Hope i am right////.....

 

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freeme
    03-Apr-2008 17:50  
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Nowadays, big writedown = gd news leh.. different from a few months ago.

Now ppl see it as the bank are honest about their sub prime loses, and investors cheerz.. really hard to please the market..

Tonite got jobless claim.. should be not gd i guess.. so dji will be +/- 1%
 
 
cyjjerry85
    03-Apr-2008 17:43  
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see the Europe market now...bad news also unmovable...record in writedowns but yet like nothing...
German Bank BayernLB Reports Record EU4.3 Billion in Writedowns


By Aaron Kirchfeld

April 3 (Bloomberg) -- Bayerische Landesbank, Germany's second-biggest state-owned bank, reported a record 4.3 billion euros ($6.7 billion) in writedowns as the contagion from the subprime-market collapse spreads to the country's Landesbanks.

Profit fell to 175 million euros last year from 989 million euros in 2006, the Munich-based bank said in a statement today. BayernLB and its owners agreed to cover as much as 6 billion euros in possible losses from 24 billion euros in assets that will be shifted to a new finance affiliate.

BayernLB's losses from the credit-market slump bring total writedowns at Germany's state-owned banks to more than 11 billion euros. The financial crisis cost Chief Executive Officer Werner Schmidt and the chief risk officer their jobs. Smaller rival WestLB AG yesterday reported its first loss in three years after 2.01 billion euros in markdowns.

``The main problem is no one can tell today how the market will develop in the future,'' said new CEO Michael Kemmer, who replaced Schmidt this month. The bank is unable to estimate how much more it will have to write down, he said.

To contact the reporters on this story: Aaron Kirchfeld in Frankfurt at akirchfeld@bloomberg.net Last Updated: April 3, 2008 05:02 EDT
 

 
cyjjerry85
    03-Apr-2008 17:20  
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now also dunno how such a news will react already...bad news still got rally...maybe after seeing this news...US markets cheong higher tonight...darnz unpredictable these days...

now Soros talking about current financial crisis is the worst since Great Depression...more market declines?when we thought we r on the verge on rebounding back up with enthusiasm 
 
 
tanglinboy
    03-Apr-2008 16:14  
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Soros Sees Additional Market Declines After Temporary Reprieve


By Katherine Burton


April 3 (Bloomberg) -- Billionaire George Soros called the current financial crisis the worst since the Great Depression and said markets will fall more this year after a brief rebound.

``We had a good bottom,'' Soros said yesterday in an interview in New York, referring to the rally in stocks and the dollar after JPMorgan Chase & Co. agreed to buy Bear Stearns Cos. on March 17. ``This will probably not prove to be the final bottom,'' he said, adding the rebound may last six weeks to three months as the U.S. moves closer to a recession.

Last summer, worried about market disruptions that started with rising subprime-mortgage defaults, Soros, 77, returned to a more active role in managing the $17 billion Quantum Endowment Fund, whose profits pay for his philanthropic projects. Quantum returned an average of 30 percent a year before Soros started using outside managers in 2000 for much of his money.

He also decided to write a book, his 10th, ``The New Paradigm for Financial Markets'' (Public Affairs, 2008). Released today online, the book explains the causes of the current meltdown, a crisis he says has been in the making since 1980, and the trades he put in place this year to protect his wealth, much of it in Quantum.

Soros has bet on declines in the dollar, 10-year Treasuries and U.S. and European stocks. He expected foreign currencies to rise, as well as Chinese and Indian equities. The latter bet helped Quantum return 32 percent in 2007. Quantum's returns this year have ranged from up 3 percent to down 3 percent.

`Heightened Uncertainty'

The euro has climbed 7.5 percent against the dollar this year and the Japanese yen has gained 9.1 percent. These and other currencies may continue to strengthen, he said.

``There is an increasing unwillingness to hold dollars, though there's a lack of suitable alternatives,'' he said. ``It's a period of heightened uncertainty.''

Federal Reserve officials dropped their benchmark interest rate 2 percentage points this year to 2.25 percent, and Soros doesn't see that they can lower the rate much further, given the weak dollar.

``We are close to the limit,'' he said.

As for his wagers on developing markets, Soros hasn't abandoned his holdings in India, even with the 22 percent drop in the benchmark Indian index this year.

``The fundamentals remain good,'' he said. He is less certain about what will happen to Chinese H shares, which trade in Hong Kong.

Credit-Default Swaps

Credit default swaps -- a way to bet on the creditworthiness of a company -- may be the next crisis area because the market is unregulated, and it's impossible to know whether counterparties can meet their obligations in the event of a bond default. The market has a notional value of about $45 trillion -- or about half the total wealth of U.S. households.

Soros recommends the creation of an exchange with a sound capital structure and strict margin requirements, where current and future contracts could be traded.

The cause of the current troubles dates back to 1980, when U.S. President Ronald Reagan and U.K. Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher came to power, Soros said. It was during this time that borrowing ballooned and regulation of banks and financial markets became less stringent. These leaders, Soros said, believed that markets are self-correcting, meaning that if prices get out of whack, they will eventually revert to historical norms. Instead, this laissez-faire attitude created the current housing bubble, which in turn led to the seizing up of credit markets and the demise of Bear Stearns, Soros said.

To avoid a super-bubble in the future, Soros said banks must control their own borrowing. They must also curtail lending to clients such as hedge funds by demanding greater collateral and margin requirements on loans.

Asked if such moves would make it impossible to achieve returns like those of his pre-2000 days, Soros laughed.

``Since I'm designing these regulations, they would not hurt me,'' he said. ``We made direction bets but we haven't used leverage'' like the $25-to-$1 borrowing that brought down John Meriwether's Long-Term Capital Management LLC in 1998.

 
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