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cyjjerry85
    21-Jan-2008 17:55  
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the nick "handon" sounds like an army camp in singapore... "Hendon Camp"...if u know what camp this is...u shld understand it's powerful significance yea~ =)
 
 
limhpp
    21-Jan-2008 16:12  
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What do you mean handon?

 
 
 
handon
    21-Jan-2008 16:12  
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unless BB borrow scripts... else drama should end 1.36.... Smiley
 

 
handon
    21-Jan-2008 14:19  
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may stand at 1.36.... Smiley
 
 
elfinchilde
    11-Jan-2008 15:15  
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no prob huatah. if you actually do manage to huat ah, ya can buy me a drink!

hahahahahhaha. :P good luck anyhow. tough market this Q. think safety and capital protection first.
 
 
huatah
    11-Jan-2008 15:10  
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tks elf..

Cheers.. hopefully i dun need to hit first strike nor the second one.. tks tks tks..
 

 
elfinchilde
    11-Jan-2008 15:07  
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this one goes out to huatah... :P

yzj:

support is at ~1.74. doesn't look like it's going to hold tho. chart-wise, it has formed a M top, with lower low definitive.

If you're caught and not worth to cut loss (altho for me, i usu choose cut), then the first strike is ~1.6, second at ~1.34-1.4.

Go slow for DCA! don't whack all at one shot pls...live chicken, not dead tiger!

good luck! Smiley 
 
 
ihatcoy
    09-Jan-2008 17:01  
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Had Buy up xx lots @1.89.
Selling to me Philip Securities. Small Player.
 
 
ygc91285
    02-Jan-2008 23:14  
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This contract win is remarkable...personally i think this counter is one of the few counters that will out perform in 2008. increase my lot tomorrow.
 
 
idesa168
    02-Jan-2008 19:01  
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oh...this contract value for Dec includes Cosco's...paiseh.
 

 
idesa168
    02-Jan-2008 18:50  
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December 2007 contract secured amounting to US$1,269 Billion for 20 vessels. This is a substantial amount in contract value to the whole of 2007 of US$4.974 Billion for 107 vessels. I dun see any reason for YZJ not to cheong tomorrow. vested...... http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_0A4DA7A1F46E424C482573C4002DDC35/$file/1077821_3.pdf?openelement
 
 
elfinchilde
    02-Jan-2008 14:42  
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not looking good. too many large sells. approx 3:2 outweigh sell to buy overall (9099 vs 6100 k lots as of now).

wld actually recommend a cut, lkg at across the board, dow futures and dollar/yen pair.

just my personal opinion; caveat emptor. not vested, and i don't do shorts either.  
 
 
huatah
    02-Jan-2008 11:32  
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Tks Elf.. as usual..u r veri helpful. Pension.. few thousands lot... hmm... typo error gua... mayb brought 5lots = 5000Shares lar.. = abt 10k. If 1000 lots... Wow.. Pension.. no need to trade liao..Can retire man.. Heehee.. Me dun trade US market.. simply take DJ as Macro view.. Cheers
 
 
elfinchilde
    02-Jan-2008 11:18  
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hi huatah and stockhunter,

for yzj trades (as opposed to buy and hold) specifically, i use MA cross at 3 and 8 days, as well as williams and MFI to determine buy or not.

stock is volatile by nature (ie, large intraday range usually), so the crosses have to be short. to counteract the false buy signals, use MFI and williams to determine. stock is currently range bound.

i don't usually use stochs, but if i do, it's just to see the trend (so yes, set at 5 and 3). don't play US stocks, only watch the dow as macro trend. STI i follow sporeguy's and cashiertan's reading. hehe.

vol traded on the 31st was 9535k. if pension did indeed buy a few thousand lots on the 31st, then he'd have singlehandedly accounted for more than 50% of the buys that day.
 
 
Pension
    31-Dec-2007 14:31  
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juz load a few thousand lot today, this counter will uptrend when the market open in 2008.
 

 
stockhunter
    31-Dec-2007 09:46  
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Hi ELF,
Would like to know how you set up for your TA if you did. Do you use MACD and Slow Stochastic?
I observed that normal site provide 5%K/3%D automatically, but I do consider using 10%K/15%D for some US stock, not sure which set up is more accurate. In terms of MA crossing, do you also use all 20, 50, 200 day MA?
Thanks for teaching in advance :P.
 
 
huatah
    31-Dec-2007 08:11  
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Hi Elf.. tks for your valuable information shared.

Happy New Year to you in advance.
 
 
elfinchilde
    30-Dec-2007 16:05  
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beg to differ from pension. if you are a real tech player, you would not be "too late" to cut loss because whatever signals you use, if read accurately and emotionlessly, will tell you when to stop loss. a cut is a cut. if one chooses to hold beyond the signal on a dip, then, that is emotional trading, it's not technical analysis.

not necessary to adopt long term position using TA. it depends on whether one is doing intraday trading, momentum, or longer term trend (which could be from a few weeks to a few months, depending on how one chooses to trade).

there's no fixed period or fixed indicator, it all depends on what one chooses to use and if one can follow his/her own rules.  

for those in this baby: yzj is rather weak. has been having lower highs and lower lows (altho the lows just ping off at equal level): proof: low on 20 Nov = 1.86, subseq high = 2.19 on dec 7; next low = 1.85 on dec 19, high = 2.05 on dec 27th. the saving grace is that vol is low.

if drop below 1.77, cut. note: chaikin and a/d not very accurate for this counter. candlesticks (for scalp) and MAcross may be better.

FA-wise, yzj is a growth counter, not a value counter.
 
 
Pension
    29-Dec-2007 10:44  
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a contra trader and long term trader see and react to situation differently, today i call buy and next day i call sell depending on few factors affecting the market sentiment. many small time investors had based on t.a and f.a, what happen recently, all licking wound when the market plunge, they juz too late to cut loss. sti can plunge for more than 200 points within few days. if u wish to depend on t.a and f.a, u must adopt long term position. analyst call for buy call at $2.80, they did not tell u when this counter can reach $2.80? this counter has good f.a, eveyone know about that. when market is good, this counter will move up and when market is bad, it will fall accordingly. btw t.a and f.a did not factor in carry trade and sub prime loan, next is credit card woe etc. to be a good trader, u need to be very discipline, emotionless and plan ur move when to take profit and cut loss.
 
 
huatah
    29-Dec-2007 10:13  
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Pension.. i m pretty confident wif the YZJ from beginning and towards 2008 based on FA.. mayb by now.. if u view from TA prospective.. u should agree too..

btw.. like u said.. dun go against the wave.. so r u goin against tis counter wave?
 
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