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iPunter
    16-Sep-2009 10:23  
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[... Once the trend ends, investors should just cash out....]

Good advice, but the problem is it's near impossible to get hot frogs to agree...

They need a real slow cooling... until it's too late... hehehe... Smiley
 
 
iPunter
    16-Sep-2009 10:11  
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Be prepared to get rotten eggs thrown at you when you try to be genuinely helpful and do good...

This is a fact of life... Smiley



richtan      ( Date: 16-Sep-2009 10:00) Posted:



From http://skybach.wordpress.com/

Trend Following = Buy and Hold + Sell



The typical “investors” will adopt a buy and hold strategy.

Such a strategy develops because from literature and common speak, “investors” are seen as having little involvement in the market after having done their “research”.

On top of that, from some other sources, Technical Analysis is often frowned upon because it is often associated with intraday traders, quick and dirty money, complex, unreliable and bankruptcy in the end.

These 2 main misconceptions and misinformation has led many people to adopt extreme ends of fundamental analysis and technical analysis.

it is the former. “Investors” adopting the buy and hold strategy are usually “losers” with no sell strategy. The main purpose of being in the market is to make money. Without a sell strategy, the “loser” usually sells when their investments shows a fundamental change, which usually is known after their investment has shown a loss.

Fundamental analysis is ideal for stock picking, but take those research material with a pinch of salt. Technical analysis is still needed to verify that the stock is moving.

Likewise, technical analysis is also needed to inform the investor that the stock has stopped moving for the long term. It is only this way that the long term investor is able to cash out before the investment becomes a liability.

Technical Analysis need not be complex. The complexity is often increased with increased usage of indicators and constant switching between them. Technical analysis can be simple if one limits to not more than 5. Personally I will recommend at most 3 that you are most comfortable with and master them. Simple charting like trendline drawing, identification of support and resistance level is more than enough for the average investors.

Technical Analysis need not be for the short haul and can be used for medium to long term.

Whether it is short term depends on whether the stock is a good trending stock. If a stock oscillates, using Technical Analysis will certainly give alot of buy and sell signals.

A good trending stock will usually dip very little in a market correction. Therefore investors should do a final round of filtering based on their trend. Once the trend ends, investors should just cash out.


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richtan
    16-Sep-2009 10:00  
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From http://skybach.wordpress.com/

Trend Following = Buy and Hold + Sell



The typical “investors” will adopt a buy and hold strategy.

Such a strategy develops because from literature and common speak, “investors” are seen as having little involvement in the market after having done their “research”.

On top of that, from some other sources, Technical Analysis is often frowned upon because it is often associated with intraday traders, quick and dirty money, complex, unreliable and bankruptcy in the end.

These 2 main misconceptions and misinformation has led many people to adopt extreme ends of fundamental analysis and technical analysis.

it is the former. “Investors” adopting the buy and hold strategy are usually “losers” with no sell strategy. The main purpose of being in the market is to make money. Without a sell strategy, the “loser” usually sells when their investments shows a fundamental change, which usually is known after their investment has shown a loss.

Fundamental analysis is ideal for stock picking, but take those research material with a pinch of salt. Technical analysis is still needed to verify that the stock is moving.

Likewise, technical analysis is also needed to inform the investor that the stock has stopped moving for the long term. It is only this way that the long term investor is able to cash out before the investment becomes a liability.

Technical Analysis need not be complex. The complexity is often increased with increased usage of indicators and constant switching between them. Technical analysis can be simple if one limits to not more than 5. Personally I will recommend at most 3 that you are most comfortable with and master them. Simple charting like trendline drawing, identification of support and resistance level is more than enough for the average investors.

Technical Analysis need not be for the short haul and can be used for medium to long term.

Whether it is short term depends on whether the stock is a good trending stock. If a stock oscillates, using Technical Analysis will certainly give alot of buy and sell signals.

A good trending stock will usually dip very little in a market correction. Therefore investors should do a final round of filtering based on their trend. Once the trend ends, investors should just cash out.


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iPunter
    09-Sep-2009 06:29  
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There's no way a person can be so unemotional as long as he/she is attached to (and think of)  a stock's 'good' fundamentals.

The only way to tell a stocks fundamentals is 'good' or 'bad' or otherwise is the price., nothing else.

Price is everything!...and the only thing!  Smiley
 
 
richtan
    09-Sep-2009 01:00  
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Stop Making Emotional Decisions With Your Investments

Three Ways to Stop Making Emotional Decisions With Your Investments
by Marc Lichtenfeld, Advisory Panelist

Highlights in this issue:

  • Why you should remember this line from Robert De Niro when investing.
  • It's tough to separate sentiment from reality when investing in this sector.
  • Three ways in which you can separate emotion from reality.

Dear Investment U Reader,

"You think they're your friends, but they're not your friends."

This was the frequent refrain from a landlord I had while in college. He was warning us on the danger of throwing parties and inviting people who we considered friends, but would think nothing of trashing the place.

I guess it's not surprising that renting his house to college kids made him a little paranoid. He often showed up at random times to make sure there was no revelry taking place. Once, he chased away some of my buddies as we were watching "Monday Night Football" (I guess the keg in the corner didn't help our argument).

This no-nonsense, unattached attitude is the perfect way to approach the stock market and your investments. After all, most investors have had stocks that we thought were our friends, but that ultimately turned on us and caused pain.

The trick is to not become emotionally attached to them.

This is easier said than done, so if you find yourself hanging onto stocks for too long, or investing more with hope and emotion than sound reasoning, allow me to give you some tips...

When it Comes to Emotions, Adopt the "Heat Mentality"

I was fortunate that my stock market education started at a trading desk, where we executed trades according to how the market and stocks were performing. Period. Nobody cared if the stock had a low P/E ratio... whether the company had the next great biotech drug... or was run by a terrific management team.

To us, stocks merely represented three or four letter symbols. That's it. In some cases, I didn't even know the names of the companies and couldn't have told you much about their businesses.

Sounds a bit clinical, doesn't it?

It was. And it served me well. I learned that you shouldn't get emotional about stocks. They're simply investment vehicles in which to park your money. Granted, you can be in a stock for five minutes or 20 years, but you should never form a relationship with them.

As Robert De Niro's character said in the movie, "Heat": "Don't allow yourself to get attached to anything you cannot walk away from in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."

Think about it. Many of us have owned a favorite stock - perhaps for years. Oftentimes, the longer you hold it, the more difficult it can become to sell it - even when you know you should.

We form an emotional attachment to the business that often has nothing to do with how the stock is performing - or how much money we're losing from it.

This can be an issue, particularly in the biotech and health care spaces...

It's Easy to Form Emotional Attachments in This Sector

One of the key price catalysts for a biotech or health care company is when a medical advancement is made. For example, a new cancer drug is approved, a company sees strong clinical trial results, etc.

Not only are we happy that our investment is worth more, but we also feel good about being involved with a company that saves lives or alleviates suffering.

For that reason, some investors form particularly emotional relationships with early-stage companies that show great promise.

In The Xcelerated Profits Report, I recommended Medivation (Nasdaq: MDVN). The company is currently developing one of the most promising drugs to combat Alzheimer's Disease - Dimebon.

When I made the recommendation in August 2007, I believed Dimebon would work and that the potential reward was worth the risk. Aside from the human issues surrounding Alzheimer's, it was strictly a financial decision. And if the drug is successful or not, the decision to recommend selling the shares will be made for financial decisions only.

You Must Separate Emotion From Reality

That said, I'll be terribly disappointed if the drug is a dud. Not only for my subscribers, but also for millions of Alzheimer's patients and their families. The disease runs in my family, so it's especially personal.

However, I won't let those emotions get in the way of taking a profit or cutting a loss. If it doesn't work I'm not going to hang on to hope, looking for some morsel of data that justifies holding onto the stock. The bottom line is that if the drug isn't proven to be safe and effective, I don't want to own the stock anymore.

Biotech investors often tell me that they can't/won't sell a stock because they've become emotionally invested, as well as financially. This isn't surprising -dreams of riches and a better world are wrapped up in these tiny companies.

But you simply cannot allow that to happen, otherwise you risk taking a double hit if things don't pan out in your favor.

So how can you remove emotion from the equation if you're not using a stop? Fight emotion with emotion.

Three Ways to Take the Emotions Out of Your Investment Decisions

#1: Write Down Your Reasons:
When you buy a stock, write down the reasons why you'd sell and post it somewhere near your computer. Perhaps it's when the stock hits a certain price, or when news on a particular drug comes out.

Whatever the reason is, write it down on paper and stick it in a visible place. That way, when your catalyst hits, it will be tougher for you to justify to yourself why you're going against your original idea.

#2: Phone a Friend:
This doesn't just work for "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire." Telling a friend or family member your reasons for selling a stock is even better than writing the reasons down for yourself.

After all, you'll face some serious peer pressure if you suddenly change your mind and refuse to take profits or cut a loss. Outsiders aren't as emotionally involved as you because it's not their money on the line, so they should be able to make you see that your original reasons are still right.

#3: Conduct an Annual Portfolio Review:
Review your portfolio at least once a year. Take a look at every stock and ask yourself why you're still holding it. If your answer sounds more like a justification than a legitimate reason, dump it.

Any time there is money involved, emotions run high. Of course, it's easier to get less attached to stocks in other sectors. For example, many investors have no problem letting industrial stocks go when their stop-losses are triggered.

But it's your job to remove as much of it as you can and focus on decisions that will benefit your portfolio.

Marc Lichtenfeld

P.S: Letting emotions get in the way of your buy and sell decisions is a "two steps forward, one step back" approach to investing that is likely to hold you back from maximizing your profits. Instead, always base your decisions on sound reasoning, coupled with the powerful strategies that will help you beat the market - and the crowd.

 
 
richtan
    09-Sep-2009 00:59  
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Stop Making Emotional Decisions With Your Investments

Three Ways to Stop Making Emotional Decisions With Your Investments
by Marc Lichtenfeld, Advisory Panelist

Highlights in this issue:

  • Why you should remember this line from Robert De Niro when investing.
  • It's tough to separate sentiment from reality when investing in this sector.
  • Three ways in which you can separate emotion from reality.

Dear Investment U Reader,

"You think they're your friends, but they're not your friends."

This was the frequent refrain from a landlord I had while in college. He was warning us on the danger of throwing parties and inviting people who we considered friends, but would think nothing of trashing the place.

I guess it's not surprising that renting his house to college kids made him a little paranoid. He often showed up at random times to make sure there was no revelry taking place. Once, he chased away some of my buddies as we were watching "Monday Night Football" (I guess the keg in the corner didn't help our argument).

This no-nonsense, unattached attitude is the perfect way to approach the stock market and your investments. After all, most investors have had stocks that we thought were our friends, but that ultimately turned on us and caused pain.

The trick is to not become emotionally attached to them.

This is easier said than done, so if you find yourself hanging onto stocks for too long, or investing more with hope and emotion than sound reasoning, allow me to give you some tips...

When it Comes to Emotions, Adopt the "Heat Mentality"

I was fortunate that my stock market education started at a trading desk, where we executed trades according to how the market and stocks were performing. Period. Nobody cared if the stock had a low P/E ratio... whether the company had the next great biotech drug... or was run by a terrific management team.

To us, stocks merely represented three or four letter symbols. That's it. In some cases, I didn't even know the names of the companies and couldn't have told you much about their businesses.

Sounds a bit clinical, doesn't it?

It was. And it served me well. I learned that you shouldn't get emotional about stocks. They're simply investment vehicles in which to park your money. Granted, you can be in a stock for five minutes or 20 years, but you should never form a relationship with them.

As Robert De Niro's character said in the movie, "Heat": "Don't allow yourself to get attached to anything you cannot walk away from in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."

Think about it. Many of us have owned a favorite stock - perhaps for years. Oftentimes, the longer you hold it, the more difficult it can become to sell it - even when you know you should.

We form an emotional attachment to the business that often has nothing to do with how the stock is performing - or how much money we're losing from it.

This can be an issue, particularly in the biotech and health care spaces...

It's Easy to Form Emotional Attachments in This Sector

One of the key price catalysts for a biotech or health care company is when a medical advancement is made. For example, a new cancer drug is approved, a company sees strong clinical trial results, etc.

Not only are we happy that our investment is worth more, but we also feel good about being involved with a company that saves lives or alleviates suffering.

For that reason, some investors form particularly emotional relationships with early-stage companies that show great promise.

In The Xcelerated Profits Report, I recommended Medivation (Nasdaq: MDVN). The company is currently developing one of the most promising drugs to combat Alzheimer's Disease - Dimebon.

When I made the recommendation in August 2007, I believed Dimebon would work and that the potential reward was worth the risk. Aside from the human issues surrounding Alzheimer's, it was strictly a financial decision. And if the drug is successful or not, the decision to recommend selling the shares will be made for financial decisions only.

You Must Separate Emotion From Reality

That said, I'll be terribly disappointed if the drug is a dud. Not only for my subscribers, but also for millions of Alzheimer's patients and their families. The disease runs in my family, so it's especially personal.

However, I won't let those emotions get in the way of taking a profit or cutting a loss. If it doesn't work I'm not going to hang on to hope, looking for some morsel of data that justifies holding onto the stock. The bottom line is that if the drug isn't proven to be safe and effective, I don't want to own the stock anymore.

Biotech investors often tell me that they can't/won't sell a stock because they've become emotionally invested, as well as financially. This isn't surprising -dreams of riches and a better world are wrapped up in these tiny companies.

But you simply cannot allow that to happen, otherwise you risk taking a double hit if things don't pan out in your favor.

So how can you remove emotion from the equation if you're not using a stop? Fight emotion with emotion.

Three Ways to Take the Emotions Out of Your Investment Decisions

#1: Write Down Your Reasons:
When you buy a stock, write down the reasons why you'd sell and post it somewhere near your computer. Perhaps it's when the stock hits a certain price, or when news on a particular drug comes out.

Whatever the reason is, write it down on paper and stick it in a visible place. That way, when your catalyst hits, it will be tougher for you to justify to yourself why you're going against your original idea.

#2: Phone a Friend:
This doesn't just work for "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire." Telling a friend or family member your reasons for selling a stock is even better than writing the reasons down for yourself.

After all, you'll face some serious peer pressure if you suddenly change your mind and refuse to take profits or cut a loss. Outsiders aren't as emotionally involved as you because it's not their money on the line, so they should be able to make you see that your original reasons are still right.

#3: Conduct an Annual Portfolio Review:
Review your portfolio at least once a year. Take a look at every stock and ask yourself why you're still holding it. If your answer sounds more like a justification than a legitimate reason, dump it.

Any time there is money involved, emotions run high. Of course, it's easier to get less attached to stocks in other sectors. For example, many investors have no problem letting industrial stocks go when their stop-losses are triggered.

But it's your job to remove as much of it as you can and focus on decisions that will benefit your portfolio.

Marc Lichtenfeld

P.S: Letting emotions get in the way of your buy and sell decisions is a "two steps forward, one step back" approach to investing that is likely to hold you back from maximizing your profits. Instead, always base your decisions on sound reasoning, coupled with the powerful strategies that will help you beat the market - and the crowd.

 

 
richtan
    01-Sep-2009 22:41  
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U r most welcome.

I too hope u can post and share useful articles so tat we all HUAT together thru mutual sharing of knowledge.



Hulumas      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 20:19) Posted:

Dear Richtan,

I learn and place into my practical action into stock market from now. Very good posting! Thank you.



richtan      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 12:30) Posted:



September 09 newsletter - Dr YC Chan  


曾渊沧@股友通讯录
MICA (P) 133/09/2008
九月份


Dear Friends

You may mark the August stock market being volatile, or boring.

Volatile because there were many days in August the ups and downs
of the market index from one day to another could add up to 2% difference.

The first day the market could go up by 2%, only to see it came down by 2% the next day
and went up by 2% again on the third day.

Punters’ sentiments kept changing amidst joy and anxiety.

They lost money everyday because they misjudged the market trend.

The worst tactics is to chase stocks when market is rising and cut loss when
it is coming down.


The market was boring because notwithstanding its volatility,
the market position remained the same as if nothing had happened.

Patience plays a very important part in stock investment.

Once you are sure it is a bull market, you should have the patience to hold
good quality stocks and ignore the daily price fluctuations.


Sideline yourself and become an observer; sell your stocks only when you think
the market fundamentals have altered.


This is the way to make big money.

Immersing in the daily market fluctuations, you may make several mistakes and
lose confidence and more mistakes followed.


There are many people who lose money in a bull market.

These are short term players who make wrong moves more often than the right moves.

What are the good quality stocks?

How to select them?

As the world keeps on changing; there is no such thing as a permanent good quality

The moment the stock market becomes bubbles, the value of good quality stocks disappears.

To be value conscious is the best way to select good quality stocks.

When the prices of some shares have gone up many folds over a short span of one
their value would naturally be discounted.


At present mid term bull market, under valued shares have become fewer and fewer.

The mid term bull market still has growth potential.

Unless there are adverse factors affecting the particular industry and corporate stocks
you are holding, you should not sell your holdings hastily.


Stock markets always behave ahead of economic data.

Therefore people who make big money are those who dare to venture into the markets facing collapse,  as most of the shares would then be undervalued, some shares may price only 10% of their real worth.

Beside China, the global economy is not recovering, although signs of its recovery are there, probably before the end of this year.

Before economy recovery is officially acclaimed, share prices are mostly in “buy” category.

When recovery has been officially acclaimed, share prices may have skewed to the high side.

To enter the market for short term punting by then would be analogy to playing the last round of music chair:  that if you do not know how to unload, you would not have a chair to sit on it.


 
 
iPunter
    01-Sep-2009 22:40  
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Pardon my view, but if learning curves, particularly in the stock market is able to be shortened, then there's no

need for life experience at all... hehehe... Smiley 

When it comes to dealing with the stock market, or any financial market for that matter,

one can be sure of the outcome only on hindsight!
 
 
richtan
    01-Sep-2009 22:40  
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U r most welcome.

I too hope u can post and share useful articles so tat we all HUAT together thru mutual sharing of knowledge.



thulasiappan      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 20:34) Posted:

Dr YC Chan's news letter is good guidelines for the newbies like me. Thanks Richtan for this posting. Hope you will post  more such useful articles.

 
 
534hjb1
    01-Sep-2009 22:39  
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as newbie I am thankful for RichTan's and everyone's advice..timely too because the rally is bullish & bearish at times. I have much to learn and hoping not to lose $$$ in the process.
 

 
richtan
    01-Sep-2009 22:32  
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I fully agree with u, as I too experienced it myself in my earlier days thru the school of hard knocks, but I hope tat my posting of this sharing of the professor's newsletter can help to create an awareness n shorten the learning curve for newbies.

smartrader      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 21:37) Posted:



One can truly appreciate Dr Chan's words (highlighted in red) if you are in the market long enough or have experienced it yourself. All are words of wisdom - luckily i experienced in my early days .

 
 
richtan
    01-Sep-2009 22:28  
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It is a very big ? whether the professor agree with your comments, so I think it is not right to say "I am sure the professor himself can understand what I mean too", unless the professor see your posting here and make his personal comments.

lookcc      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 21:28) Posted:

completely agree with u, ur defence is not called 4 at all.

iPunter      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 21:17) Posted:

hahaha...

I will be the first one to ask people to listen to academics...

But whoever agrees with me that no one can be sure of the market's direction tomorrow or beyond,

regardless of time frame, will understand what I mean...

I am sure the professor himself can understand what I mean too...  Smiley



 
 
smartrader
    01-Sep-2009 21:37  
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One can truly appreciate Dr Chan's words (highlighted in red) if you are in the market long enough or have experienced it yourself. All are words of wisdom - luckily i experienced in my early days .
 
 
lookcc
    01-Sep-2009 21:31  
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very true.

iPunter      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 12:49) Posted:



"...  Once you are sure it is a bull market, you should have the patience to hold... "

Not even a fortune teller can be sure if it's a bull (or bear) market ... 

And that is the problem why many people committ suicide when playing the market...

Simply because they are very sure and confident ..

and thus whack big... and hold and hold confidently... Smiley

 
 
lookcc
    01-Sep-2009 21:28  
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completely agree with u, ur defence is not called 4 at all.

iPunter      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 21:17) Posted:

hahaha...

I will be the first one to ask people to listen to academics...

But whoever agrees with me that no one can be sure of the market's direction tomorrow or beyond,

regardless of time frame, will understand what I mean...

I am sure the professor himself can understand what I mean too...  Smiley



richtan      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 13:05) Posted:

No offence intended, my apology if it does offend u.

Wat credentials do u have (better than Dr YC Chan?) to make comments on his newsletter?

I rather advice newbies to listen to him than u.



 

 
iPunter
    01-Sep-2009 21:19  
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Richtan... :)


I do not accept any apologies...

simply because no one has said or done anything wrong... hehehe...  Smiley
 
 
iPunter
    01-Sep-2009 21:17  
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hahaha...

I will be the first one to ask people to listen to academics...

But whoever agrees with me that no one can be sure of the market's direction tomorrow or beyond,

regardless of time frame, will understand what I mean...

I am sure the professor himself can understand what I mean too...  Smiley



richtan      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 13:05) Posted:

No offence intended, my apology if it does offend u.

Wat credentials do u have (better than Dr YC Chan?) to make comments on his newsletter?

I rather advice newbies to listen to him than u.



iPunter      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 12:49) Posted:



"...  Once you are sure it is a bull market, you should have the patience to hold... "

Not even a fortune teller can be sure if it's a bull (or bear) market ... 

And that is the problem why many people committ suicide when playing the market...

Simply because they are very sure and confident ..

and thus whack big... and hold and hold confidently... Smiley


 
 
thulasiappan
    01-Sep-2009 20:34  
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Dr YC Chan's news letter is good guidelines for the newbies like me. Thanks Richtan for this posting. Hope you will post  more such useful articles.
 
 
Hulumas
    01-Sep-2009 20:19  
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Dear Richtan,

I learn and place into my practical action into stock market from now. Very good posting! Thank you.



richtan      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 12:30) Posted:



September 09 newsletter - Dr YC Chan  


曾渊沧@股友通讯录
MICA (P) 133/09/2008
九月份


Dear Friends

You may mark the August stock market being volatile, or boring.

Volatile because there were many days in August the ups and downs
of the market index from one day to another could add up to 2% difference.

The first day the market could go up by 2%, only to see it came down by 2% the next day
and went up by 2% again on the third day.

Punters’ sentiments kept changing amidst joy and anxiety.

They lost money everyday because they misjudged the market trend.

The worst tactics is to chase stocks when market is rising and cut loss when
it is coming down.


The market was boring because notwithstanding its volatility,
the market position remained the same as if nothing had happened.

Patience plays a very important part in stock investment.

Once you are sure it is a bull market, you should have the patience to hold
good quality stocks and ignore the daily price fluctuations.


Sideline yourself and become an observer; sell your stocks only when you think
the market fundamentals have altered.


This is the way to make big money.

Immersing in the daily market fluctuations, you may make several mistakes and
lose confidence and more mistakes followed.


There are many people who lose money in a bull market.

These are short term players who make wrong moves more often than the right moves.

What are the good quality stocks?

How to select them?

As the world keeps on changing; there is no such thing as a permanent good quality

The moment the stock market becomes bubbles, the value of good quality stocks disappears.

To be value conscious is the best way to select good quality stocks.

When the prices of some shares have gone up many folds over a short span of one
their value would naturally be discounted.


At present mid term bull market, under valued shares have become fewer and fewer.

The mid term bull market still has growth potential.

Unless there are adverse factors affecting the particular industry and corporate stocks
you are holding, you should not sell your holdings hastily.


Stock markets always behave ahead of economic data.

Therefore people who make big money are those who dare to venture into the markets facing collapse,  as most of the shares would then be undervalued, some shares may price only 10% of their real worth.

Beside China, the global economy is not recovering, although signs of its recovery are there, probably before the end of this year.

Before economy recovery is officially acclaimed, share prices are mostly in “buy” category.

When recovery has been officially acclaimed, share prices may have skewed to the high side.

To enter the market for short term punting by then would be analogy to playing the last round of music chair:  that if you do not know how to unload, you would not have a chair to sit on it.

 
 
richtan
    01-Sep-2009 13:08  
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Nothing wrong with holding, but dun hold bindly, dyodd.

iPunter      ( Date: 01-Sep-2009 12:52) Posted:



Holding is the natural inclination of newbies... 

And even veterans are the best holders...  Smiley

 
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