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tedlim_me
    14-Oct-2009 19:09  
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bro.. pm me if anything.. seems like only the both of us r conversing on this topic.. dun wanna take up bandwidth.. Smiley
 
 
tedlim_me
    14-Oct-2009 18:24  
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oh u're doing a proj.. okokk.. proj means finance theories..

you may want to search arnd for the 'sustainable growth rate' which supports the gordon growth model stock valuation..

 

tt wld give u, g = (net income-div)/net income * net income/sales * sales/assets * assets/shareholders' equity

in short, g = earnings retention rate (i.e. 1-div payout ratio) * ROE..

 

this calculation of g supports the constant growth model for stock valuation i.e. gordon growth model..

 

may wanna google it for further elaboration.. Smiley



chinton86      ( Date: 14-Oct-2009 17:34) Posted:

For my project i need to reference some where to say y 5.5% leh

 
 
chinton86
    14-Oct-2009 17:34  
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For my project i need to reference some where to say y 5.5% leh
 

 
tedlim_me
    14-Oct-2009 17:27  
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comes frm investor's own estimation.. finance bks or papers wld say anywhere between 5% to 8% would be a gd gauge.. i'd use 5.5% to 6% for a gd gauge..

chinton86      ( Date: 14-Oct-2009 17:24) Posted:

where can we get the projected growth rate? Or is i assume  anyhow?

 
 
chinton86
    14-Oct-2009 17:24  
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where can we get the projected growth rate? Or is i assume  anyhow?
 
 
tedlim_me
    14-Oct-2009 17:17  
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oh 1 more thing... reason being that required rate of return cannot be less than the projected growth rate.. Smiley

tedlim_me      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 08:33) Posted:



btw bro.. i'm not sure where where u can get risk premium.. risk premium = risk free rate - growth rate... growth rate is supposed to be ur own estimation.. risk free rate, get it frm the rate provided by singapore bonds.. however, if the co. has the bulk of operations of the co. is in china, use the risk free rate of china govt bonds.. Generally, use risk free rate of the particular country's 10 yr bonds (though they may be excessively deflated e.g. sg govt bonds which provides a rate that is excessively low compared to corporate bonds which provides higher returns.. so one way is to use an aggregate of a basket of AAA bonds)..  i hope this helps... :)

 

 
tedlim_me
    13-Oct-2009 21:17  
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tt is true unless u subscribe to credit rating firms.. but sg govt bonds provide yields tt are way too low to actually 'more accurately' portray the stock's expected price..  sorry for the late reply.. Smiley



chinton86      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 12:41) Posted:



By finding the basket of AAA bond seems to be difficult as compare to 10 government bond right?

 Thanks....U helps.

 
 
chinton86
    13-Oct-2009 12:41  
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By finding the basket of AAA bond seems to be difficult as compare to 10 government bond right?

 Thanks....U helps.
 
 
tedlim_me
    13-Oct-2009 08:33  
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btw bro.. i'm not sure where where u can get risk premium.. risk premium = risk free rate - growth rate... growth rate is supposed to be ur own estimation.. risk free rate, get it frm the rate provided by singapore bonds.. however, if the co. has the bulk of operations of the co. is in china, use the risk free rate of china govt bonds.. Generally, use risk free rate of the particular country's 10 yr bonds (though they may be excessively deflated e.g. sg govt bonds which provides a rate that is excessively low compared to corporate bonds which provides higher returns.. so one way is to use an aggregate of a basket of AAA bonds)..  i hope this helps... :)
 
 
tedlim_me
    13-Oct-2009 08:24  
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bro.. u still can.. juz that ur denominator will be bigger i.e. required rate of return (use capm) - (- the negative growth rate)... so ur expected px for the stock will be lower.. :)

chinton86      ( Date: 13-Oct-2009 01:31) Posted:



Can anyone help me how to find the expected return using capm though i have a formula but where can i find the risk premium for a company: ke=Rf+B(Premium)

If i have a negative growth rate for dividend, can i still use the dividend growth model to find intrisic value?

 

 
chinton86
    13-Oct-2009 01:31  
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Can anyone help me how to find the expected return using capm though i have a formula but where can i find the risk premium for a company: ke=Rf+B(Premium)

If i have a negative growth rate for dividend, can i still use the dividend growth model to find intrisic value?
 
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