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Manikamaniho
    17-Feb-2008 17:06  
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There's an article about Christine Low's work on love in the 13 Feb 2008 issue of "MindAndBody" (the Straits Time supplement).

The article appears on the back page of the supplement (pg 24).

Believe me, only very, very few people have embarked on this enlightening path...
(Ordinarily, it's all a mundane "on" and "off" compulsion and the 'mandatory achievement')... hehehe...  Smiley
 
 
Manikamaniho
    17-Feb-2008 08:50  
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For a taste of serious love (as opposed to 'totally altruistic selflessness'), do try out:-

Christina Low's tpath@Oohtique is located at:
50A Circular Road, Boat Quay. Tel: 6557-0469

Overflow with love...
-Get a taste of real love and lifetime blisss! ...  SmileySmiley

 
 
elfinchilde
    16-Feb-2008 22:23  
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oop. pai seh. quote wrong: cancel out the 'to'. "Man, if you ever gotta ask, it means you ain't ever gonna know."

nites all! Smiley
 

 
elfinchilde
    16-Feb-2008 22:16  
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lol. asterisk, it's ok. just difference of opinion.

as louis armstrong said about jazz, "Man, if you ever gotta to ask, it means you ain't ever gonna know."

The same can be said of love. Love's not love if it requires explication, if it requires demonstration, to outsiders. You never have to ask a flower how it blooms, isn't it? It just is. It's a sad life that has to question and doubt the existence of selflessness.

So. you know it, i know it, that's all that matters. Equanimity. There's no need to debate. Peace, little one. Smiley

 
 
 
Manikamaniho
    16-Feb-2008 18:44  
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PS>A thousand Valentines direct from the heart is the reward.
Osho would be only too happy to know his legacy lives on even here... Smiley
 
 
Manikamaniho
    16-Feb-2008 18:28  
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Christina Low's tpath@Oohtique is located at:

50A Circular Road, Boat Quay. Tel: 6557-0469

Get a taste of real love to last a lifetime! 

 

 
Manikamaniho
    16-Feb-2008 16:17  
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Much better to join the Tpath@Oohtique for the real thing... Egoless bliss... Smiley
 
 
Manikamaniho
    16-Feb-2008 16:16  
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Much better to join the Tpath@Ohhtique for the real thing... Egoless bliss... Smiley
 
 
Manikamaniho
    16-Feb-2008 16:02  
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Willing suckers... perfectly true... and natural too...


Thus, no sadness is necessary when you see it happening... Smiley

 
 
Manikamaniho
    16-Feb-2008 12:45  
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O, how many have given all, given everything free...  in the name of love...

Only realising later they were actually willing suckers, as it were... Smiley

Nature does not change...   

 

 
elfinchilde
    16-Feb-2008 12:35  
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lol. perhaps too many assumptions in that? i.e.,

1) gold digging being a realistic practice

2) that because of gold digging, love has no place to stand

3) definition of ideal--too sweeping?

4) human procreation being a big problem.

main point is: every relationship is between two. if both are willing, then, nothing either right nor wrong. just what you are willing to give, and what you are willing to accept in return.

love's not the stock market. in matters of love, be gentle, with your own heart, and the hearts of others.

love's not love if it has to be calculated, if it has to be a zero sum game, if it has to be analysed, if it has to be a cost-benefit game of winner and loser.

if one's counting the costs, materially or otherwise, then perhaps, one does not know what love is.

because, there should only be three words in the equation: it shouldn't have to be

"I love you because..."

or "I love you if...."

those are conditions.

Simply, it should be,

"I love you."

 

that is all, and that is elfin love for ya.

have a good weekend, all! cheers!  
 
 
Manikamaniho
    16-Feb-2008 12:17  
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Thus the ideal solution it seems, is a non-exploitative woman/woman permanent relationship.

But then, the big problem of human procreation arises... Smiley 

 
 
Manikamaniho
    16-Feb-2008 12:13  
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Elfin wrote... 

[[..rather a single blade of grass from a true heart than the Hope Diamond from a false heart...]]

With "gold-digging" being a realistic practice in the world of relationships, where does love stand then?

Sadly, it invariably makes those who truly love (both genders) suckers in the whole game... Smiley
 
 
elfinchilde
    15-Feb-2008 19:53  
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rather a single blade of grass from a true heart than the Hope Diamond from a false heart.

Not true about not making during CNY pre and after. It's timing that matters. Elfie has been scalping. lost two counters, made on 8. a further 4 still in play. excluding two long term holdings. Jan locked in abt 10% of capital expended. Feb is up and counting. all in all, has been a good time.

Follow the trend. Stick with the rules. That's all. Agree with tabbykat. take one strat that works for you, and stick with it. Cut out all emotions.
 
 
Count_Lustig
    15-Feb-2008 19:19  
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Thank you to all the brothers and sisters out there for their pearls of wisdom, encouragement and concern.  A big thank you, especially to OneSharer and Scotty for their brotherly concerns.

Me no Vday celebrations, no contact. Well, marriage to me is not like a 100m sprint eschewed by my 'now de-funct' in-laws to see who crossed the finishing line 1st. Its more like a marathon to me. Her mom is a great chess player (I will elaborate more next time, if its not too imposing on SJ forum)

The other day, I passed by my former pri sch and saw not juz an old building and a school field overgrown with weeds, but the place where my elder bro emptied his pocket and borrowed a fistful of coins for me, for schooling needs. .I believe with much conviction that there are many things in life that cannot be cut away like 'apron strings'..    

Must say something about shares too? Am still in the red, so why not the rest say and I listen and read....

*bows*
 

 
OneSharer
    15-Feb-2008 17:45  
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IMHO:  It is very normal to have in-law problems.  In-laws can be a real blessing (e.g. grandchildren-sitting); but at times, can also be a real pain (e.g. protective/control issues).  Learning to deal with them is, like it or not, part of the marriage package.   Hopefully, a couple will eventually learn to deal with them amicably, in the couple?s own (agreeable/united) ways and in their own time.  (It?s a process).    

Must say something about shares???  

I think relationship, in some ways, is like buying a counter.  But you must pay for it with your life time instead of investing just money.  You must think twice before getting into one.  If it?s not suitable (e.g. considering the environment, interested shareholders, own resources), go for another suitable counter.  Once vested (in this case, never hold more than one counter at a time), must try your best to make it work.  (As the mkt can be volatile, at times, be ready to eat humble pie).   Though there may be ups and downs; hopefully, it will always be growing.   

In short:  Make the effort, do the research, in order to gain understanding.   Once vested, do your best to make it work.  This way, whether gain/loss, there'z no regret cos you know you?ve done your best.    

Hi Tabbykat:  

Thanks for the joke -- it was really funny!  Though I don't disagree with the "like mother, like daughter" view, I also believe there are exceptions.  (Pls give young gals/guys a chance).  The wiser ones will observe and learn to avoid the pitfalls. 

As for gold digging, in some ways, we are all gold diggers.  Else, why are we meeting in SJ.  Pls don't blame mothers for everything! 

 
 
mike8057d
    15-Feb-2008 15:12  
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No money no honey
 
 
mike8057d
    15-Feb-2008 14:57  
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gold digger is being realistic........just love will not buy you food, and essentials
 
 
AK_Francis
    15-Feb-2008 14:14  
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Hi, bykat welcome to the board. Hope to hear you more, esp the good jokes, during such dull market time. You are right, trading pre and CNY is not a good move. Thus why now I spend my long holiday in my small kampong, Kuala Kangsar, a distance from Ipoh, Perak. I will only back to Spore by end of Feb. Nonetheless, I still will keep in touch with you all while I enjoying myself here. Cheers.
 
 
Manikamaniho
    15-Feb-2008 12:22  
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And gold diggers usually learn it early from their mothers too... hehehe.. Smiley
 
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