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Short Sell Marking

Most of the penny stock r not tradable in CFD.

 

skk888      ( Date: 16-Mar-2013 00:46) Posted: Can hold for long or short on cfd.. There's a finance charge by day.. Usually short is higher.. yummygd      ( Date: 15-Mar-2013 22:03) Posted: Hi can anyone clarify if shooting penny with cfd account must cover back before trading day end or can Hold?

 

CFD borrowings are known in advance ?


just my wild imagination :  suppose some people are able to see in real time the amount of short sell (especially intra day sales),

how will this info be useful ? 

 

CFD is the best... the most convenient and neat service ever devised...

      The only downside is not all counters are supported...

 

Thanks skk

skk888      ( Date: 16-Mar-2013 00:46) Posted: Can hold for long or short on cfd.. There's a finance charge by day.. Usually short is higher.. yummygd      ( Date: 15-Mar-2013 22:03) Posted: Hi can anyone clarify if shooting penny with cfd account must cover back before trading day end or can Hold?

 

Can hold for long or short on cfd.. There's a finance charge by day.. Usually short is higher..

yummygd      ( Date: 15-Mar-2013 22:03) Posted: Hi can anyone clarify if shooting penny with cfd account must cover back before trading day end or can Hold?

 

Hi can anyone clarify if shooting penny with cfd account must cover back before trading day end or can
Hold?

 

  Short Sell Executed on March 15, 2013

http://www.sgx.com/wps/wcm/connect/cc68e4004ee5db7a856787140e877772/DailyShortSell20130315.txt?MOD=AJPERES& CACHEID=cc68e4004ee5db7a856787140e877772

 

 

Short Sell Executed on March 14, 2013 (EASY LINK)


http://www.sgx.com/wps/wcm/connect/53be61004ee2d160b74eb7140e877772/DailyShortSell201303141815.txt?MOD=AJPERES& CACHEID=53be61004ee2d160b74eb7140e877772

 

I doubt the accuracy of 13.03.2013 daily short sell report, becos there r

no ways to clarify the numbers.  Even large quantities of blue chip counters r being short sell,

true or not.

 

 

  If allowed, I will like to short sell 10 HDB 3 room flats.   Buys must pay first.   I will give them the flats later.   Can???

Can! BTO (Build to Order) Only HDB allow to do so. Buyers pay first,then give  you the flats later. 

Bopanha      ( Date: 14-Mar-2013 09:38) Posted: Agreed.   It is merely a waste of efforts.   What benefit can one derive from it? Market action will comprise of buy and sell, oversell or overbuy. Big SGX traders, clearing houses, market makers and most probably SGX officials are allowed to short sell any stock they like.   The problem of the market is not with short sale by itself, but short sale by these suckers.   Why they allow short sales in the stock market?   They want to make big bucks as they can maneuvre   or manipulate prices to their gains. Other than stocks, no other things can you short sell, e.g. cars, houses.   If allowed, I will like to short sell 10 HDB 3 room flats.   Buys must pay first.   I will give them the flats later.   Can??? k2kingkong      ( Date: 14-Mar-2013 09:10) Posted: thanks skk888,   " For instance, information on short sale volume/value may not reflect the outstanding short position in those securities. Volume/value of short sales may include trades which have since been squared off by offsetting buy trades." this is why I came to the conclusion that interpretation is of no value. Regarding the likes of Muddy waters, the introduction of short sell marking should be to catch these people, and yet they are the ones exempted.  So what good is the value of this new regulation ?    Frankly, all these regulations only slow down transaction speed  and disadvantage retail players who are already the weakest party  in the whole scheme of things (eg. broking firm requiring retail player to enter quantity and price twice in a hot market). Even naked shorts carried out by retail players will not disrupt the orderliness of the market as the buy back is within a short period of time and within a small amount of money.  If there are big players masquerading as small retail players, they can be easily controlled by regulating the credit limit allocation of  broking firms. A real view of gigantic disorderliness which disrupts the market (like the case of Muddy Waters) is to look at the borrowings in the CFD market and to regulate the big boys.

 

not at all

yummygd      ( Date: 14-Mar-2013 10:04) Posted: Thanks gufeng88      ( Date: 14-Mar-2013 10:01) Posted: Short Sell Report 13 Mar 2013   http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/marketinfo/marking_of_sell_orders/!ut/p/c5/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gjR0cTDwNnA0t_E3NLA0_zQF9PT0NzA09fY6B8JLJ8KEg41CnQxCks1NDb04yAbj-P_NxU_YLciHIAu1pLpQ!!/dl3/d3/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/

 

Thanks

gufeng88      ( Date: 14-Mar-2013 10:01) Posted: Short Sell Report 13 Mar 2013   http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/marketinfo/marking_of_sell_orders/!ut/p/c5/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gjR0cTDwNnA0t_E3NLA0_zQF9PT0NzA09fY6B8JLJ8KEg41CnQxCks1NDb04yAbj-P_NxU_YLciHIAu1pLpQ!!/dl3/d3/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/

 

short sell report 13 Mar 2013 (easy link)

 

http://www.sgx.com/wps/wcm/connect/df2ed9804ee19eefb44fb7140e877772/DailyShortSell20130313.txt?MOD=AJPERES& CACHEID=df2ed9804ee19eefb44fb7140e877772

 

 

Short Sell Report 13 Mar 2013

 

http://www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/marketinfo/marking_of_sell_orders/!ut/p/c5/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gjR0cTDwNnA0t_E3NLA0_zQF9PT0NzA09fY6B8JLJ8KEg41CnQxCks1NDb04yAbj-P_NxU_YLciHIAu1pLpQ!!/dl3/d3/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/

 

 

 

Agreed.   It is merely a waste of efforts.   What benefit can one derive from it? Market action will comprise of buy and sell, oversell or overbuy. Big SGX traders, clearing houses, market makers and most probably SGX officials are allowed to short sell any stock they like.   The problem of the market is not with short sale by itself, but short sale by these suckers.  

Why they allow short sales in the stock market?   They want to make big bucks as they can maneuvre   or manipulate prices to their gains. Other than stocks, no other things can you short sell, e.g. cars, houses.   If allowed, I will like to short sell 10 HDB 3 room flats.   Buys must pay first.   I will give them the flats later.   Can???

k2kingkong      ( Date: 14-Mar-2013 09:10) Posted: thanks skk888,   " For instance, information on short sale volume/value may not reflect the outstanding short position in those securities. Volume/value of short sales may include trades which have since been squared off by offsetting buy trades." this is why I came to the conclusion that interpretation is of no value. Regarding the likes of Muddy waters, the introduction of short sell marking should be to catch these people, and yet they are the ones exempted.  So what good is the value of this new regulation ?    Frankly, all these regulations only slow down transaction speed  and disadvantage retail players who are already the weakest party  in the whole scheme of things (eg. broking firm requiring retail player to enter quantity and price twice in a hot market). Even naked shorts carried out by retail players will not disrupt the orderliness of the market as the buy back is within a short period of time and within a small amount of money.  If there are big players masquerading as small retail players, they can be easily controlled by regulating the credit limit allocation of  broking firms. A real view of gigantic disorderliness which disrupts the market (like the case of Muddy Waters) is to look at the borrowings in the CFD market and to regulate the big boys.

 

thanks skk888,

  " For instance, information on short sale volume/value may not reflect the outstanding short position in those securities. Volume/value of short sales may include trades which have since been squared off by offsetting buy trades."


this is why I came to the conclusion that interpretation is of no value.

Regarding the likes of Muddy waters, the introduction of short sell marking should be to catch these people, and yet they are the ones exempted.  So what good is the value of this new regulation ?   

Frankly, all these regulations only slow down transaction speed  and disadvantage retail players who are already the weakest party  in the whole scheme of things (eg. broking firm requiring retail player to enter quantity and price twice in a hot market).

Even naked shorts carried out by retail players will not disrupt the orderliness of the market as the buy back is within a short period of time and within a small amount of money.  If there are big players masquerading as small retail players, they can be easily controlled by regulating the credit limit allocation of  broking firms.


A real view of gigantic disorderliness which disrupts the market (like the case of Muddy Waters) is to look at the borrowings in the CFD market and to regulate the big boys.

 

It is all extra work...

  Sell or short, what difference does it make in the market?... lol... 

 

Maybe so many cannot finish in time lol

Bon3260      ( Date: 14-Mar-2013 08:39) Posted: Ya hor... How cm Shorts Sell report for 13-Mar-2013 not ready? ('',) Or they saw SGX has many shorts, they fainted on spot? Keeke... yummygd      ( Date: 14-Mar-2013 08:35) Posted: Is it me or e short sell for yesterday not up yet?

 

Ya hor...
How cm Shorts Sell report for 13-Mar-2013 not ready?

('',)

Or they saw SGX has many shorts, they fainted on spot?
Keeke...

yummygd      ( Date: 14-Mar-2013 08:35) Posted: Is it me or e short sell for yesterday not up yet?

 

Is it me or e short sell for yesterday not up yet?