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warrenbegger
    17-Sep-2011 00:19  
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We r not wulin gao shou...

We r ah siao and idiot...

Pls dont trust us, unless u also siao liao :)

 

rivera      ( Date: 16-Sep-2011 17:34) Posted:



thanks for opinion & sharing...

SJ got many " wulin gao shou"  

now my conclusion is: either trades for long term or short term as long as we choose the right stock at the right time so no problem..

heng ah!!! recently my warehouse clean-clean ... now wait & see than shopping & save when opportunity come.

===

temporally retired... horrible market ah!

WHEN MARKET CRASH???

 

 
 
rivera
    16-Sep-2011 17:34  
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thanks for opinion & sharing...

SJ got many " wulin gao shou"  

now my conclusion is: either trades for long term or short term as long as we choose the right stock at the right time so no problem..

heng ah!!! recently my warehouse clean-clean ... now wait & see than shopping & save when opportunity come.

===

temporally retired... horrible market ah!

WHEN MARKET CRASH???

 
 
 
pasttime
    05-Sep-2011 23:49  
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anything surprising ? with all the who blink eye first on the debt limit, who dares to invest.


even my dog wait and see la.

tanglinboy      ( Date: 03-Sep-2011 10:20) Posted:

The writing is on the wall... no jobs created in Aug in the US. Job data is a lagging indicator of the economy. 

 

 
iPunter
    05-Sep-2011 21:17  
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The 'strategy' of playing a single stock for both long-term as well

      as short-term play is already being practised by many players

              who do partial liquidation of their total holdings in a stock.

            However it does not make sense to be long and short a

                                stock at the same time, other than for the purpose of

                                        locking one's position...  Smiley                    
 
 
MrMomentum
    05-Sep-2011 20:25  
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Hi Everyone,

Let’s assume that I enter a trade because I have found a good company.

When I say a good company I mean a fundamentally strong company trading at a reasonable price.

Let’s also assume that I decide to hold the stock for the long term to allow time for the stock to perform.

My question is what is to stop me from using a shorter term strategy on the same stock?

The good thing about the stock market is I can use two different strategies on the same stock.

I can use a long term “buy and hold” strategy and a shorter term “trade in and out” strategy on the exact same stock.

That’s what I like about the stock market. It gives me a lot of flexibility.

All the best,

www.mistermomentum.blogspot.com

 
 
ivanignatius
    05-Sep-2011 09:53  
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Definition of a long term investor:   Day trader who's position went against them, and they didn't want to take a loss.

The depressing reality of the whole idea of the 'long term investor' is that it is a myth pedaled by the fund management companies who want you to remain invested in their rip-off fee-machine unit trusts.   It is based on a very selective data set from 1982-2000 when stock markets went up and up and up, and long term investors made great 12-15% returns per annum if they held their nerve and remained invested through the whole period.   However, stock market history teaches us that 1982-2000 was a unique period when inflation was being tamed, and the world was in great shape.   There are many long periods like 1929-50 and 1966-1982 when the stock market went nowhere. 

We are in just such a cycle.   Markets are below where they were in 2000, and that is 11 years ago now.   As Europe enters a Japan style period of no-growth due to debt and aging population, and China slows down, we're not going to see a sustained bull market.   Rather, markets will move in waves, and investors need to be nimble to ride the up waves, while remaining well out during the down waves.    

Don't fall for the fund management companies' 'you must always be invested'.   The rest of the sentence reads 'you must always be invested or we won't be able to take fees from you'. 
 

 
tanglinboy
    03-Sep-2011 10:20  
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The writing is on the wall... no jobs created in Aug in the US. Job data is a lagging indicator of the economy. 
 
 
rivera
    03-Sep-2011 09:19  
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i like TCM also

i like herbal chicken soup...refreshing

i like korean sangethang

dc16888      ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 12:53) Posted:



Market boring today, go comex.  updated   something bendfit ppl here........  http://www.holistichealingnatural.blogspot.com

cheers.

 
 
rivera
    03-Sep-2011 09:05  
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your comment brighten up my day ~ have a nice day

MrMomentum      ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 13:33) Posted:

Hi rivera,



 

Many people ask  the question…



 

Is it better to be  a long term investor or short term trader?



 

My question to them is…



 

Why do I have to choose?



 

I personally like to use a number of different trading strategies. Some are short term and some are long term.



 

To me it's about having a trading plan, testing the plan, and then managing my risk.

 

All the best,

www.mistermomentum.blogspot.com


 
 
rivera
    03-Sep-2011 09:01  
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tank q leh, honestly i seldom cutloss when shares prices going down ...

okay.. i will practice cutloss instead than keep the goods 3 yrs hahah... nice one !

belgeran      ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 11:43) Posted:



hey rivera...

just an advice from a newbie me... try not to do averaging down. it'll cause you more mental stress when your position is enlarged and it doesn't climb from there.... since you'll likely average more lots than the original position.... practise cut loss instead...

and.. you might want to practise average up instead.. average  up with smaller lots... when you're in profit position, you'll just earn less if it dips from there...

also, just something  that i think....... when the market falls, it usually falls alot  faster than it climbs...

my 2 newbie cents...

 

 
MrMomentum
    02-Sep-2011 13:33  
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Hi rivera,



 

Many people ask  the question…



 

Is it better to be  a long term investor or short term trader?



 

My question to them is…



 

Why do I have to choose?



 

I personally like to use a number of different trading strategies. Some are short term and some are long term.



 

To me it's about having a trading plan, testing the plan, and then managing my risk.

 

All the best,

www.mistermomentum.blogspot.com

 
 
dc16888
    02-Sep-2011 13:07  
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like it? norishing soup?

dc16888      ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 12:53) Posted:



Market boring today, go comex.  updated   something bendfit ppl here........  http://www.holistichealingnatural.blogspot.com

cheers.

 
 
dc16888
    02-Sep-2011 12:55  
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ooops is benefit traders

dc16888      ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 12:53) Posted:



Market boring today, go comex.  updated   something bendfit ppl here........  http://www.holistichealingnatural.blogspot.com

cheers.

 
 
dc16888
    02-Sep-2011 12:53  
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Market boring today, go comex.  updated   something bendfit ppl here........  http://www.holistichealingnatural.blogspot.com

cheers.
 
 
rotijai
    02-Sep-2011 11:53  
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i asked u to trade with 20% of ur cash.. *trade meaning u must have a plan, take profit + cut loss

keep the 80% and wait for cheap stocks to invest (cheap stocks meaning 60-80% discount of the recent highest price)

i didnt ask u to avg down.. not in this market now

rivera      ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 09:46) Posted:



reply Rotijai:

u r right, i follow the rule: use 20% of cash , but each time when its down , my 80% cash use for averaging down ,& all money was trapped!

reply Louis001:

experience is the best teacher , failure is the way to success..cheers! someday i want to become a master hehe

 

 
belgeran
    02-Sep-2011 11:43  
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hey rivera...

just an advice from a newbie me... try not to do averaging down. it'll cause you more mental stress when your position is enlarged and it doesn't climb from there.... since you'll likely average more lots than the original position.... practise cut loss instead...

and.. you might want to practise average up instead.. average  up with smaller lots... when you're in profit position, you'll just earn less if it dips from there...

also, just something  that i think....... when the market falls, it usually falls alot  faster than it climbs...

my 2 newbie cents...
 
 
rivera
    02-Sep-2011 09:46  
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reply Rotijai:

u r right, i follow the rule: use 20% of cash , but each time when its down , my 80% cash use for averaging down ,& all money was trapped!

reply Louis001:

experience is the best teacher , failure is the way to success..cheers! someday i want to become a master hehe
 
 
rivera
    02-Sep-2011 09:27  
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sian ah... losing time but empty result. anyway thanks for your encourage...

RachelG      ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 08:50) Posted:



Rivera don't think too much. I hope everything will turn out well for you. Cheer up

 
 
louis001
    02-Sep-2011 09:25  
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hahaha...jumped in since 2001you are new to SJ but not new to stock market...

you would have learned and experienced something over last 10 yrs...that's yours' nobody can take away from you....you have to find and work out your own way....that's the only way you find it comfortable yourself....only you know yourself..

rivera      ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 08:48) Posted:



thanks 4 replies, juz curious nothing else...

in fact , i already jumped into the stock market since 2001 but the money earned (ezy come ezy go) i really dissapointed! & retired temporally...sian liao

till 2008 i make a come back again, who knows financial tsunami trapped my hard earned money  .I kept my stocks 3 years until last month they back to my entry price ,, i sold all out  (now warehouse clean clean) - juz lose some commission fees! wanna give up.......

but....  最 近 看 回 香 港 电 视 剧 " the greed man 1992" 我 的 兴 趣 又 回 来 了 . WHY???

 
 
rotijai
    02-Sep-2011 09:17  
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if u are thinking about investing..

not the right time now

if u die die wanna play

use 20% of ur cash to play

rivera      ( Date: 02-Sep-2011 08:48) Posted:



thanks 4 replies, juz curious nothing else...

in fact , i already jumped into the stock market since 2001 but the money earned (ezy come ezy go) i really dissapointed! & retired temporally...sian liao

till 2008 i make a come back again, who knows financial tsunami trapped my hard earned money  .I kept my stocks 3 years until last month they back to my entry price ,, i sold all out  (now warehouse clean clean) - juz lose some commission fees! wanna give up.......

but....  最 近 看 回 香 港 电 视 剧 " the greed man 1992" 我 的 兴 趣 又 回 来 了 . WHY???

 
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