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richtan
    19-Jun-2009 00:46  
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cheongwee
    08-Mar-2009 16:55  
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But if it cannot break 970..then it will pay a visit to 860..i think only...

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cheongwee
    05-Mar-2009 21:21  
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Here is another bear........DYODD

Issue 14 March 4, 2009

Economy Falling Off a Steep Cliff

Mike BurnickLast Friday’s revision to fourth-quarter GDP growth was dismal in the extreme—no two ways about it.

Upon further review, government bean counters decided our economy contracted nearly TWICE as much in the last three months of 2008, with GDP plunging -6.2%, instead of the -3.8% decline originally reported.1

The key components of the sharp decline were no surprise.

Residential fixed investments (i.e. housing) fell at a yearly rate of -22.2%...and consumer spending plunged at a rate of -4.3% annually, which doesn’t sound like much, but in an economy where 70% of the total GDP depends on personal consumption, it’s HUGE! In fact, consumer spending is suffering the steepest contraction since 1951.2

With the U.S. economy falling off such a steep cliff at the end of last year, it is finally dawning on optimistic investors that this is NO garden variety recession. In fact, the magnitude of this decline appears to be as severe—if not more so—than any recession in post WWII history.

It seems to me that too many investors have grown too complacent about the economy’s outlook. The majority of economists, in fact, see a strong second-half recovery this year, with the median forecast suggesting an expanding economy by sometime in the second-quarter of 2009, beginning in July, and a return to GDP growth 1.6% by the fourth quarter.3

It is assumed that the $787 billion fiscal stimulus plan, plus more budget-busting deficit spending by the Federal government (including more bailout money for banks and homeowners) will be enough to quickly turn our economy around by mid-summer.

Perhaps, but I wouldn’t bet my bottom dollar on such an outcome. There’s plenty of “supporting data” on the economy that, like the recent GDP report, shows we are suffering through the worst economic contraction since the Great Depression:

Nearly 600,000 U.S. workers were laid off in January alone. More jobs were lost last year than any time since WWII, and the February employment report, due on Friday, could show another 700,000 Americans out of work.4

Nationwide, home prices have collapsed by nearly ONE-THIRD—tumbling 26.7% since their peak in 2006, that’s by far the steepest decline in home values since the Great Depression.5

Consumer confidence collapsed last month, falling to the lowest level since record-keeping began.6 And this is very damning since consumer expectations are considered a leading indicator for the economy.

The trouble is that there are some eternal optimists on Wall Street, in Washington and elsewhere, who need to take off their rose-colored glasses. Their upbeat forecasts just don’t match the harsh reality in the data. And this disconnect only sets the market up for more disappointment down the road if the fabled second-half recovery fails to materialize.

And even if the economy does miraculously bounce back later this year, it may be the cruelest joke of all. Do you remember the term “double-dip recession” from the 1980s? In fact, Japan struggled through a whole series of recurring recessions during its “lost decade” in the 1990s. The U.S. economy may be fated to follow a similar pattern of false starts and dashed hopes for years to come

At Weiss Capital Management, we were ahead of the curve early last year in predicting that a recession had already started. When officials finally announced last December that this recession began a full year ago, in December 2007, we were not surprised.

All of us have experienced recessions before, but for MOST of us, these economic contractions were relatively mild over the past 50 years or so. The typical recession since 1945 lasted just 10 months on average. The current recession has already lasted 15 months and counting; meaning we’re already 50% above the norm in terms of duration.7

If you crack open the economic history books and look at the full record of data going way back to the 1850s, you’ll see that recessions typically lasted much longer: 18 months on average. Many contractions, especially during the 19th century, lasted even longer.8

Could this recession be over by July? I seriously doubt it. Nevertheless, it’s better to prepare your investments for more trouble ahead. Until the housing and financial sectors show signs of stabilizing, the economy may not fully recover.

And even when a recovery does arrive, it could be barely recognizable considering the amount of damage that’s been done to America’s collective wealth...and lost confidence.

Good investing,


Mike Burnick
Director of Research & Client Communications
Weiss Capital Management, Inc.

P.S. We can help you navigate today’s difficult economic and investment climate with confidence. If you have investments of $250,000 or more, we invite you to receive a COMPLIMENTARY portfolio evaluation to help you protect and defend your wealth in today’s recession and beyond.


1 Bloomberg: “U.S. Economy Shrank 6.2% Last Quarter, Most Since ‘82,” 2/27/09
2 Northern Trust Daily Global Commentary, 2/27/09
3 Bloomberg data 3/3/09
4 Bloomberg: “U.S. Economy Shrank 6.2% Last Quarter, Most Since ‘82,” 2/27/09
5 CNNMoney.com “Home price in record drop,” 2/24/09
6 Bloomberg: “Consumer Confidence, Home Prices Slump,” 2/24/09
7 National Bureau of Economic Research data, 12/1/2008
8 Ibid.

 
 
cheongwee
    05-Mar-2009 21:18  
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To richtan and all..

David Bensimon said 2nd half 2009..market to rally..but hear out this bear...both sound reasonable...which one is right???DYODD...you do your own due diligent.



Wall Street pundits howled last July when we said the Dow would plunge to 7200 — a 37% decline.

Now, with the Dow well BELOW 7200, the critics have fallen silent — and some are even mimicking our forecast that Dow 5000 is dead ahead.

Here’s why even that dire medium-term forecast is still just the beginning — why the Dow could ultimately fall to 3500 ... 2500 ... 1500 or even lower ...

And how you can USE this great bear market to pile up greater profits in less time than you may now believe possible ...

Dear CHEONGWEE,

How far will the Dow fall? Where will it hit rock bottom?

If you’re not asking this question right now, you should be.

It is absolutely essential that you get the answer right — for two, compelling reasons:

If you’re wrong, every sucker rally in this bear market could have you buying at the wrong time, then getting your head handed to you as the crash resumes.

But if you get it right, not only can you make a bundle with contrarian investments all the way down ... you’ll also be primed to earn windfall profits at the real bottom — picking up great stocks for pennies on the dollar!

You probably know that the average Dow stock crashed 89% between 1929 and 1932. So the question now is ...

When future history books are written, will they
say that this crisis was less severe than the
Great Depression? About the same? Or WORSE?


Of course, anyone who tells you he knows precisely where the Dow will hit rock bottom is pulling your leg. But consider the evidence ...

Fact #1: Earnings declines are now worse than in America’s First Great Depression. Average earnings have plunged 61% year-over-year, much more than during the 1930s. In fact, the last time earnings declined more than 61% was 141 long years ago!

Fact #2: Consumer losses are worse as well. Last time around, the losses that triggered the depression were largely limited to stock market investors.

This time, the fact that the average NYSE stock has already wiped out HALF investors’ money is only the tip of the iceberg: The equity most folks count on as their #1 source of retirement savings has also been wiped out as our homes have lost a staggering $2.4 trillion of their value in a single year.

Fact #3: Debts are far larger. Like this crisis, the Great Depression was essentially a debt implosion. But in 1929, total debts represented no more than 170% of GDP. This time around, U.S. consumers are buried under a far larger mountain of mortgage debt, auto loan debt, credit card debt and other consumer debts. Result: Total debts are now close to 350% of GDP – TWO TIMES MORE!

Fact #4: Derivatives! The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) reports that U.S. banks now hold a $176-trillion mountain of derivatives, many of which are extremely high risk. In 1929, these derivatives were virtually non-existent.

Fact #5: Giant failures. In the first 18 months of the 1929-32 bear market, there were many small and medium-sized bank failures. However, none were as massive or as dangerous as the giant failures we’ve experienced in the first 18 months of this giant bear market.

This time around, the failures (or bailouts) of giants like Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Fannie and Freddie, Washington Mutual, and Wachovia dwarf anything seen in 1929. And even these large failures will be trumped several times over by the impending demise of Citigroup and AIG.

Fact #6: U.S. is a debtor nation! In 1929, the United States was a creditor nation, with substantial foreign reserves. Today, the U.S. is the world’s largest debtor nation, dependent on foreign lenders to keep it afloat. That means that there’s a definite limit to how much longer the U.S. government can continue to borrow to bail out failing institutions.

Fact #7: The economic collapse and debt crisis are far from over! Just this morning, for example, we learned that:

  • Home prices have plunged 18.5%.

  • Sales of existing homes have fallen to the lowest level in twelve years.

  • Sales of new homes cratered to an all-time record low.

  • 697,000 American families lost a paycheck in February — a 25% increase from January’s abysmal figures.


BOTTOM LINE: This crisis is AT LEAST as severe as the Great Depression, and the decline in stocks could be as well. That means, you could make the case that it could ultimately drive the Dow to as low as 1500.


The good news is, the investments that rise when stocks fall are already spinning off enormous profits.

And as the Dow, the S&P and the Nasdaq continue to plunge in the weeks ahead, they offer you the opportunity to grab huge profit potential.


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richtan
    05-Mar-2009 14:55  
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I believe this recording was done prior to the recent double top on 23/2/09 & uploaded on 27/2/09.

 At tat point of recording, he predicted tat gold would form a double top (which had already happened earlier than his prediction) by 9/3/09 followed by 6 to 8 weeks correction & consolidation.



cheongwee      ( Date: 05-Mar-2009 13:01) Posted:

For all and richtan...

http://www.kitco.com/ind/kitcoradio/index.html

notice he say something ..9th of march..i am chinese ed,,can you all comfirm for me...did he say gold to soar on 9th of march..pls help...thanks

and hope i contribute..by bringing to your attn....good luck to all..DYODD



richtan      ( Date: 05-Mar-2009 10:44) Posted:

I dun guesstimate how high/low it will go, I trade day to day, read whatever analysis I can lay my fingers on & then decide to act or not.

Of course, not every trade is profitable as we are human & no TA is 100% right but I cut my loss using stop-loss. 



 

 
cheongwee
    05-Mar-2009 13:01  
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For all and richtan...

http://www.kitco.com/ind/kitcoradio/index.html

notice he say something ..9th of march..i am chinese ed,,can you all comfirm for me...did he say gold to soar on 9th of march..pls help...thanks

and hope i contribute..by bringing to your attn....good luck to all..DYODD



richtan      ( Date: 05-Mar-2009 10:44) Posted:

I dun guesstimate how high/low it will go, I trade day to day, read whatever analysis I can lay my fingers on & then decide to act or not.

Of course, not every trade is profitable as we are human & no TA is 100% right but I cut my loss using stop-loss. 



cheongwee      ( Date: 05-Mar-2009 05:20) Posted:



so this round how low u expecting..i know nobody is spot on, but hope u can share from your analysis..thanks.

for me i dont go in and out..the last few time i did that i lost out..so since i am long till fundamental changes i will just cost ave..i will drop all my gold relate when it is 450..which is unlikely for now..


 
 
richtan
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I dun guesstimate how high/low it will go, I trade day to day, read whatever analysis I can lay my fingers on & then decide to act or not.

Of course, not every trade is profitable as we are human & no TA is 100% right but I cut my loss using stop-loss. 



cheongwee      ( Date: 05-Mar-2009 05:20) Posted:



so this round how low u expecting..i know nobody is spot on, but hope u can share from your analysis..thanks.

for me i dont go in and out..the last few time i did that i lost out..so since i am long till fundamental changes i will just cost ave..i will drop all my gold relate when it is 450..which is unlikely for now..

 
 
cheongwee
    05-Mar-2009 05:20  
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so this round how low u expecting..i know nobody is spot on, but hope u can share from your analysis..thanks.

for me i dont go in and out..the last few time i did that i lost out..so since i am long till fundamental changes i will just cost ave..i will drop all my gold relate when it is 450..which is unlikely for now..
 
 
richtan
    04-Mar-2009 22:10  
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Hi Cheong Wee, I do not doggedly follow & stick to any particular analysis, I read & analyse any writeups that I can lay my fingers on & then make my own judgements & never bother to keep track on whose more accurate as I believe it is an exercise in futility.

I prefer & believe in spending more productive time reading & analysing as many as I possibly can & make an overall judgement & ignore all those wild noises, particularly all those frivolous wild rumours, remarks, guesses & predictiions without substances in the forums.



cheongwee      ( Date: 04-Mar-2009 19:03) Posted:

Hi, richtan..normally, whose analysis do you follow, whom you deem to be more accurate...can pls share..i know that there are no 100%, but very close.. one...thanks.

richtan      ( Date: 04-Mar-2009 15:07) Posted:

Do not be too naive, the market is too big for a forum to talk up or down.

This is just a sharing based on TA or FA & not wild guessing or wild talk.

No emotions involved.

U still have to dyodd.



 

 
cheongwee
    04-Mar-2009 19:03  
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Hi, richtan..normally, whose analysis do you follow, whom you deem to be more accurate...can pls share..i know that there are no 100%, but very close.. one...thanks.

richtan      ( Date: 04-Mar-2009 15:07) Posted:

Do not be too naive, the market is too big for a forum to talk up or down.

This is just a sharing based on TA or FA & not wild guessing or wild talk.

No emotions involved.

U still have to dyodd.



nickyng      ( Date: 04-Mar-2009 12:46) Posted:

wah! trying toTALK DOWN GOLD price har? hee.....can meh? :D


 
 
richtan
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Do not be too naive, the market is too big for a forum to talk up or down.

This is just a sharing based on TA or FA & not wild guessing or wild talk.

No emotions involved.

U still have to dyodd.



nickyng      ( Date: 04-Mar-2009 12:46) Posted:

wah! trying toTALK DOWN GOLD price har? hee.....can meh? :D

 
 
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wah! trying toTALK DOWN GOLD price har? hee.....can meh? :D
 
 
richtan
    04-Mar-2009 12:31  
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http://www.freewebs.com/internetwealthy/TDMACRO_03MAR2009.pdf

 



baseerahmed      ( Date: 04-Mar-2009 11:34) Posted:



oops .. can't see the charts on either mozilla or the explorer ... copying properties also doesn't help ...

can help by uploading to hosting site and pasting here ? thanks !






 
 
baseerahmed
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oops .. can't see the charts on either mozilla or the explorer ... copying properties also doesn't help ...

can help by uploading to hosting site and pasting here ? thanks !





 

 
richtan
    04-Mar-2009 10:27  
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 GOLD is a SELL on Rallies | technical chart by Jason Perl (UBS)

For those who are interested in GOLD's technical chart (by Jason Perl)
 

 

 
 
 
 
baseerahmed
    28-Feb-2009 09:31  
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" so the talk of $5000 to $6000 gold is a possibility ".....

... interesting ...... care to share some articles/food for thought on this aspect for some weekend reading .... thanks  : )

 

 


 
 
cheongwee
    28-Feb-2009 03:48  
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According to World Gold Council..Singapore have 127.4 ton of gold..
 
 
cheongwee
    27-Feb-2009 12:52  
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where they keep is not important...but i hope they dont trade gold for ctigroup and AIG and the like anymore for now...

The US kepp theirs in Fort Knox,Singapore???i dont know...ask the govt.



AK_Francis      ( Date: 27-Feb-2009 12:36) Posted:

Alamat. wanted to cal 200ton of gold = how much to ad in our USD foreign reserve. D small calculator digits overflow. Dun talk about finding how much extra US hv.

Interesting Q again, d stock pile is at Swiss? It bounds to hv some stock pile at home loh. 



cheongwee      ( Date: 27-Feb-2009 12:26) Posted:



Have ever read abt Singapore having 200 tons gold only...not very sure..

actually, the govt need not manipulate the px like gold bug was telling other.

they are the law of the land, they can simply illegalise gold trade that is all..just Dr Mahatir illegalise the OTC market...do u still remember..me and alot got burn..

But in recent year some CB have been buying gold..and most are still keeping it..why??keeping gold incur cost...it does not pay interest...

they should have convert it to cash long ago...maybe they still see it as "real" money..in the future. or for some reason best known to themselves...


 
 
AK_Francis
    27-Feb-2009 12:36  
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Alamat. wanted to cal 200ton of gold = how much to ad in our USD foreign reserve. D small calculator digits overflow. Dun talk about finding how much extra US hv.

Interesting Q again, d stock pile is at Swiss? It bounds to hv some stock pile at home loh. 



cheongwee      ( Date: 27-Feb-2009 12:26) Posted:



Have ever read abt Singapore having 200 tons gold only...not very sure..

actually, the govt need not manipulate the px like gold bug was telling other.

they are the law of the land, they can simply illegalise gold trade that is all..just Dr Mahatir illegalise the OTC market...do u still remember..me and alot got burn..

But in recent year some CB have been buying gold..and most are still keeping it..why??keeping gold incur cost...it does not pay interest...

they should have convert it to cash long ago...maybe they still see it as "real" money..in the future. or for some reason best known to themselves...

 
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