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Laulan
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 Alert Admin 		Ipunter has the answer.  He said, don't play play with stocks..  I agree.
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cOnversiOn  scheme  has  CATCH  22  UNcertainties.

gOOd  fOr  the  cOmpany  but  may nOt be gOOd  fOr  cOnvertEEs

cOnversiOn  PRiCE  UNcertainty

cOnversiOn  allOcatiOn  UNcertainty

cOnversiOn  cOst  at  3% +  is  tOO  HiGH  with  abOve UNcertainties

cOnversiOn  periOd  is  tOO  lOng  with  current  market  UNcertainty

 
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why Oceanus seems to cause misery to its loyal shareholders.

No matter how it tried to boost its value with initiative, it fell short of interest from major deep pocket investors whom will make the difference when they took note of a company and buy its shares in huge volume....  

From the current action is either its a target of shortist or existing holders gave up and dump to explore greener pasture elsewhere. Resigned.

But there will be renewed interest from other major incomer at the eleventh hour of this buy now and op to trade in Taiwan thing :)

Good Luck.. 



pharoah88      ( Date: 03-May-2010 16:06) Posted:



GiViNG  late  cOmers  a  share  and 

having  everyone's  fEEt wEt  is 

UNrEwarding  and  UNattractivE
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GiViNG  late  cOmers  a  share  and 

having  everyone's  fEEt wEt  is 

UNrEwarding  and  UNattractivE
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It is  BETTER  to have  FULL  ALLOCATION

On  First  Come  First  Serve  Basis

tO  be FAIR  and  REWARD  the  BRAVE



Busta1      ( Date: 28-Apr-2010 23:26) Posted:

That's correct. (a) and (b) are payable to UOBKH upon application.

(c) will be deducted from the proceeds of the TDR. You also have to add 7% GST to it. 

Note that most likely you will not get 100% allocation, so (c) will be lesser.



cysnotts      ( Date: 28-Apr-2010 00:57) Posted:

Hi Busta1 or others,

Can I confirm the following fee which I will incur for the conversion [eg. for 100,000 shares]

a) $35
b) $0.002 x 100000 shares = $200 [expenses if TDR terminated, refunded if TDR proceeded]
c) If issue price $0.58, then paid 3% x 0.58 x 100,000 = $1740 to UOBKH.
Thks
 
Fees and Expenses to be borne by Participants
Each Participant is required to
amounts are exclusive of goods and services tax (where applicable), which will be borne by the
Participants)
pay the following amounts to UOBKH for its account (which:
(a) upon application :
(i) a
tax), which will be applied,
on behalf of the Participant, including without limitation, in payment of the
charges imposed by the CDP in connection with the transfers of Shares as set
out in paragraphs 2(d), 6 and 7 above;
(ii) an
expenses of the 2
to be approximately S$300,000, subject to a maximum of S$300,000 from any
one Participant, in the event the 2
not proceeded with for any reason whatsoever.
If the TDRs are listed on the TSE and sold in connection with the 2
Programme, the TDR Expenses (paid in respect of Excess Shares and
Participating Shares) will be refunded to the Participants (or the depository agent,
for Participants who participated in the 2
Shares held in sub-accounts) (without interest or any share of revenue or other
benefit arising therefrom), together with the proceeds of sale of TDRs referred to
in paragraph 7 (if any) (subject to deduction of all relevant expenses and such
amounts as may be due and payable to UOBKH and/or its nominee(s) under the
2
If the 2nd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwise not proceeded with for any
reason whatsoever, (i) any TDR Expenses paid in respect of Excess Shares shall
be refunded (without interest or any share of revenue or other benefit arising
therefrom) to Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who
participated in the 2
within seven Business Days of such occurrence; and (ii) no TDR
Expenses paid in respect of Participating Shares will be refunded to the
Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who participated in the 2
non-refundable amount of S$35 (which fee is inclusive of goods and servicesinter alia, in payment of expenses incurred by UOBKHamount of S$0.002 per Tendered Share in contribution towards thend TDR Programme (the "TDR Expenses"), which is expectednd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwisend TDRnd TDR Programme with Participatingnd TDR Programme).nd TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in subaccounts)nd
TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in sub-accounts),
(b) upon the listing on the TSE and sale of the TDRs in connection with the 2
Programme,
expenses incurred by the Participant in respect of its participation in the 2
Programme, but exclusive of applicable goods and services tax, which will be borne by
the Participants) in respect of the number of its Participating Shares converted to TDRs:-
nd TDRpay an all-in fee to UOBKH for its own account (which fee is inclusive of allnd TDR
Issue Price of each TDR Fees Payable
Below S$0.60 3% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.60 to below S$0.70 4% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.70 and above 5% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST
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 Alert Admin 		26,727,000  S$0.39  +S$0.01

Friday: 30 APRIL 2010  CLOSING

STi  STiLL  in  DOW  PHOBIA

STi  +15.6

HK  +329.67
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WOW 

3%  @ S$1,740

gOOd  fEE  fOr  UOB



cysnotts      ( Date: 28-Apr-2010 00:57) Posted:

Hi Busta1 or others,

Can I confirm the following fee which I will incur for the conversion [eg. for 100,000 shares]

a) $35
b) $0.002 x 100000 shares = $200 [expenses if TDR terminated, refunded if TDR proceeded]
c) If issue price $0.58, then paid 3% x 0.58 x 100,000 = $1740 to UOBKH.
Thks
 
Fees and Expenses to be borne by Participants
Each Participant is required to
amounts are exclusive of goods and services tax (where applicable), which will be borne by the
Participants)
pay the following amounts to UOBKH for its account (which:
(a) upon application :
(i) a
tax), which will be applied,
on behalf of the Participant, including without limitation, in payment of the
charges imposed by the CDP in connection with the transfers of Shares as set
out in paragraphs 2(d), 6 and 7 above;
(ii) an
expenses of the 2
to be approximately S$300,000, subject to a maximum of S$300,000 from any
one Participant, in the event the 2
not proceeded with for any reason whatsoever.
If the TDRs are listed on the TSE and sold in connection with the 2
Programme, the TDR Expenses (paid in respect of Excess Shares and
Participating Shares) will be refunded to the Participants (or the depository agent,
for Participants who participated in the 2
Shares held in sub-accounts) (without interest or any share of revenue or other
benefit arising therefrom), together with the proceeds of sale of TDRs referred to
in paragraph 7 (if any) (subject to deduction of all relevant expenses and such
amounts as may be due and payable to UOBKH and/or its nominee(s) under the
2
If the 2nd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwise not proceeded with for any
reason whatsoever, (i) any TDR Expenses paid in respect of Excess Shares shall
be refunded (without interest or any share of revenue or other benefit arising
therefrom) to Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who
participated in the 2
within seven Business Days of such occurrence; and (ii) no TDR
Expenses paid in respect of Participating Shares will be refunded to the
Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who participated in the 2
non-refundable amount of S$35 (which fee is inclusive of goods and servicesinter alia, in payment of expenses incurred by UOBKHamount of S$0.002 per Tendered Share in contribution towards thend TDR Programme (the "TDR Expenses"), which is expectednd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwisend TDRnd TDR Programme with Participatingnd TDR Programme).nd TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in subaccounts)nd
TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in sub-accounts),
(b) upon the listing on the TSE and sale of the TDRs in connection with the 2
Programme,
expenses incurred by the Participant in respect of its participation in the 2
Programme, but exclusive of applicable goods and services tax, which will be borne by
the Participants) in respect of the number of its Participating Shares converted to TDRs:-
nd TDRpay an all-in fee to UOBKH for its own account (which fee is inclusive of allnd TDR
Issue Price of each TDR Fees Payable
Below S$0.60 3% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.60 to below S$0.70 4% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.70 and above 5% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST


Busta1      ( Date: 25-Apr-2010 00:19) Posted:

It's pro-rata allocation, not ballot.  So you will definitely get something if you apply, question is how much.
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Thursday:  29 APRIL 2010  CLOSING

S$0.380  +S$0.005

DOW  PHOBIA
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That's correct. (a) and (b) are payable to UOBKH upon application.

(c) will be deducted from the proceeds of the TDR. You also have to add 7% GST to it. 

Note that most likely you will not get 100% allocation, so (c) will be lesser.



cysnotts      ( Date: 28-Apr-2010 00:57) Posted:

Hi Busta1 or others,

Can I confirm the following fee which I will incur for the conversion [eg. for 100,000 shares]

a) $35
b) $0.002 x 100000 shares = $200 [expenses if TDR terminated, refunded if TDR proceeded]
c) If issue price $0.58, then paid 3% x 0.58 x 100,000 = $1740 to UOBKH.
Thks
 
Fees and Expenses to be borne by Participants
Each Participant is required to
amounts are exclusive of goods and services tax (where applicable), which will be borne by the
Participants)
pay the following amounts to UOBKH for its account (which:
(a) upon application :
(i) a
tax), which will be applied,
on behalf of the Participant, including without limitation, in payment of the
charges imposed by the CDP in connection with the transfers of Shares as set
out in paragraphs 2(d), 6 and 7 above;
(ii) an
expenses of the 2
to be approximately S$300,000, subject to a maximum of S$300,000 from any
one Participant, in the event the 2
not proceeded with for any reason whatsoever.
If the TDRs are listed on the TSE and sold in connection with the 2
Programme, the TDR Expenses (paid in respect of Excess Shares and
Participating Shares) will be refunded to the Participants (or the depository agent,
for Participants who participated in the 2
Shares held in sub-accounts) (without interest or any share of revenue or other
benefit arising therefrom), together with the proceeds of sale of TDRs referred to
in paragraph 7 (if any) (subject to deduction of all relevant expenses and such
amounts as may be due and payable to UOBKH and/or its nominee(s) under the
2
If the 2nd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwise not proceeded with for any
reason whatsoever, (i) any TDR Expenses paid in respect of Excess Shares shall
be refunded (without interest or any share of revenue or other benefit arising
therefrom) to Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who
participated in the 2
within seven Business Days of such occurrence; and (ii) no TDR
Expenses paid in respect of Participating Shares will be refunded to the
Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who participated in the 2
non-refundable amount of S$35 (which fee is inclusive of goods and servicesinter alia, in payment of expenses incurred by UOBKHamount of S$0.002 per Tendered Share in contribution towards thend TDR Programme (the "TDR Expenses"), which is expectednd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwisend TDRnd TDR Programme with Participatingnd TDR Programme).nd TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in subaccounts)nd
TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in sub-accounts),
(b) upon the listing on the TSE and sale of the TDRs in connection with the 2
Programme,
expenses incurred by the Participant in respect of its participation in the 2
Programme, but exclusive of applicable goods and services tax, which will be borne by
the Participants) in respect of the number of its Participating Shares converted to TDRs:-
nd TDRpay an all-in fee to UOBKH for its own account (which fee is inclusive of allnd TDR
Issue Price of each TDR Fees Payable
Below S$0.60 3% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.60 to below S$0.70 4% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.70 and above 5% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST


Busta1      ( Date: 25-Apr-2010 00:19) Posted:

It's pro-rata allocation, not ballot.  So you will definitely get something if you apply, question is how much.
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Wednesday: 28 APRIL 2010  CLOSING

2932.04   -59.64

STi  CORRECTION

GREECE  CONTAGION
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YOU  ARE  REALLY  HAPPY  in  this  GAME

BECAUSE YOU HAVE MASTERED THE GAME



happytrading      ( Date: 27-Apr-2010 20:27) Posted:

Hey Pharoah88

How come you post everywhere the same thing one.

What are you trying to put across, can share or not?



pharoah88      ( Date: 27-Apr-2010 18:43) Posted:



Tuesday: 27 APRIL  2010  CLOSING

S$0.380   -S$0.005

TODAY  is  prOfit  TAKiNG  DAY.

STi  2991.680   -10.940

HSI  -325

SSE  -61
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It is SUPPOSED to be MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER THAN

PUTTING  CASH  IN  THE  CPF  or  BANKS

OTHERWISE  WHY  BOTHER TO  TRADE / INVEST ?



pharoah88      ( Date: 28-Apr-2010 11:19) Posted:



it  is  UNWISE  and  NOT WORTHWHILE 

if  TRADING / INVESTING  CAUSES

BOTH  MENTAL &  PHYSIOLOGICAL 

HEALTH  HAZARDS  AND  SICKNESSES 

* * * * * * * *

TRADING  AND  INVESTING  ARE  SUPPOSED  TO  BRING  HAPPINESS  &  WEALTH
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it  is  UNWISE  and  NOT WORTHWHILE 

if  TRADING / INVESTING  CAUSES

BOTH  MENTAL &  PHYSIOLOGICAL 

HEALTH  HAZARDS  AND  SICKNESSES 

* * * * * * * *

TRADING  AND  INVESTING  ARE  SUPPOSED  TO  BRING  HAPPINESS  &  WEALTH
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I observed that Quite a number of  traders and investors  became so FEARFUL  and  INTOLERANT.

Because they thought that they were either UNLUCKY  or  Practice their TA / FA / LA  WRONGLY

That  ONLY  their  OWN COUNTERS'  PRiCES  FELL.

SO  i  try it  TRANSPARENT  that  it  is  an OVERALL  MAREKT  PROFIT  TAKING  DAY.

I  realised  that  SOME of them are  STILL  in DOUBTS.

In fact,  last evening  both  TV Channel  8  and  CNA  reported that  STI  fell  yesterday  due to  PROFIT TAKING.

I  dOn't want them  to  BLAME  THEMSELVES 

when ACTUALLY  the MARKET  is  BEYOND  THEIR  CONTROL 

and  the  FALL  is  NOT  THEIR  FAULT



happytrading      ( Date: 27-Apr-2010 20:27) Posted:

Hey Pharoah88

How come you post everywhere the same thing one.

What are you trying to put across, can share or not?



pharoah88      ( Date: 27-Apr-2010 18:43) Posted:



Tuesday: 27 APRIL  2010  CLOSING

S$0.380   -S$0.005

TODAY  is  prOfit  TAKiNG  DAY.

STi  2991.680   -10.940

HSI  -325

SSE  -61
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Hi Busta1 or others,

Can I confirm the following fee which I will incur for the conversion [eg. for 100,000 shares]

a) $35
b) $0.002 x 100000 shares = $200 [expenses if TDR terminated, refunded if TDR proceeded]
c) If issue price $0.58, then paid 3% x 0.58 x 100,000 = $1740 to UOBKH.
Thks
 
Fees and Expenses to be borne by Participants
Each Participant is required to
amounts are exclusive of goods and services tax (where applicable), which will be borne by the
Participants)
pay the following amounts to UOBKH for its account (which:
(a) upon application :
(i) a
tax), which will be applied,
on behalf of the Participant, including without limitation, in payment of the
charges imposed by the CDP in connection with the transfers of Shares as set
out in paragraphs 2(d), 6 and 7 above;
(ii) an
expenses of the 2
to be approximately S$300,000, subject to a maximum of S$300,000 from any
one Participant, in the event the 2
not proceeded with for any reason whatsoever.
If the TDRs are listed on the TSE and sold in connection with the 2
Programme, the TDR Expenses (paid in respect of Excess Shares and
Participating Shares) will be refunded to the Participants (or the depository agent,
for Participants who participated in the 2
Shares held in sub-accounts) (without interest or any share of revenue or other
benefit arising therefrom), together with the proceeds of sale of TDRs referred to
in paragraph 7 (if any) (subject to deduction of all relevant expenses and such
amounts as may be due and payable to UOBKH and/or its nominee(s) under the
2
If the 2nd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwise not proceeded with for any
reason whatsoever, (i) any TDR Expenses paid in respect of Excess Shares shall
be refunded (without interest or any share of revenue or other benefit arising
therefrom) to Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who
participated in the 2
within seven Business Days of such occurrence; and (ii) no TDR
Expenses paid in respect of Participating Shares will be refunded to the
Participants (or the depository agent, for Participants who participated in the 2
non-refundable amount of S$35 (which fee is inclusive of goods and servicesinter alia, in payment of expenses incurred by UOBKHamount of S$0.002 per Tendered Share in contribution towards thend TDR Programme (the "TDR Expenses"), which is expectednd TDR Programme is terminated or otherwisend TDRnd TDR Programme with Participatingnd TDR Programme).nd TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in subaccounts)nd
TDR Programme with Participating Shares held in sub-accounts),
(b) upon the listing on the TSE and sale of the TDRs in connection with the 2
Programme,
expenses incurred by the Participant in respect of its participation in the 2
Programme, but exclusive of applicable goods and services tax, which will be borne by
the Participants) in respect of the number of its Participating Shares converted to TDRs:-
nd TDRpay an all-in fee to UOBKH for its own account (which fee is inclusive of allnd TDR
Issue Price of each TDR Fees Payable
Below S$0.60 3% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.60 to below S$0.70 4% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST)
S$0.70 and above 5% of the issue price of each TDR (+GST


Busta1      ( Date: 25-Apr-2010 00:19) Posted:

It's pro-rata allocation, not ballot.  So you will definitely get something if you apply, question is how much.

God_of_War      ( Date: 25-Apr-2010 00:15) Posted:



That mean is like ti-gan/ lucky draw. Than no point buy for the sick of it.

Wait got stuck.........
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Hey Pharoah88

How come you post everywhere the same thing one.

What are you trying to put across, can share or not?



pharoah88      ( Date: 27-Apr-2010 18:43) Posted:



Tuesday: 27 APRIL  2010  CLOSING

S$0.380   -S$0.005

TODAY  is  prOfit  TAKiNG  DAY.

STi  2991.680   -10.940

HSI  -325

SSE  -61
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Tuesday: 27 APRIL  2010  CLOSING

S$0.380   -S$0.005

TODAY  is  prOfit  TAKiNG  DAY.

STi  2991.680   -10.940

HSI  -325

SSE  -61
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Yup...

It's the law of the jungle in action...

where 'dog eats dog'... Smiley
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