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things every retail investor/trader should know
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stupidfool
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30-Nov-2008 10:38
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Who is Mrs macwilliams?Jusr because she is ang mo ppl start to look up to her opinion? Have to watch the company's earnings...that is the key. When u buy shares u are buying into the company.Ig the company's is profitable,ur future returns is there.
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Laulan
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30-Nov-2008 09:58
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I think people are afraid to short because the fear of loss if the price shoots up. Buying gives the well being of "if the price drops, I hold and lock it up". Shorting gives the fear that you cannot have a short position forever and the position must be covered somehow. | ||
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Livermore
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30-Nov-2008 09:32
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Hope you had a look at this Sunday Times newspaper on pag 24. Mrs Macwilliams is a options trainer. Her advice,"Always focus on protecting your capital and the returns will follow. Approach the stock market like a business. Always have an exit strategy with either a profit goal or loss potential. When your position begins to lose value, honours your loss target and do not look back" Ask yourself this question, If you buy a stock at $1.50 and let it slide all the way down to 50c, is that capital protection? If you did not cut loss earlier, you find that you don't have enough capital now to buy stocks at cheaper price now. To me one of the common mistake is that some people don't really track their overall net position. i.e since the day you started in stock market what much money have you made or lost. When you track that daily, your actions to protect capital is easier. Reality is when you buy too many stocks, it is very hard to track. |
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lookcc
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29-Nov-2008 23:01
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crafty bearish noises. | ||
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Livermore
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29-Nov-2008 14:46
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I am referring to a bull market here. If you analyse carefully my buy set up, you only leverage one time on a conservative basis, then let the stock fly. Then a correction happens. so maybe you sell off some. Then you begin the next buy set up, then you leverage again only 1 time (conservative). In that way, you just keep doing the same for the main stocks you have on hand. For each stock you just leverage one time (conservative) during your buy set up. In that way, risk from margin is mitigated.
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Livermore
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28-Nov-2008 20:09
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You need to have a buy set up strategy when you buy a stock. It is not just about buying when a stock falls or plunges down. That is the "normal" way we all start out with as a beginner. | ||
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Livermore
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28-Nov-2008 18:57
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In some ways I don't follow TA exactly in my buy set up. Let me explain but maybe this is more applible in a bull market but I am doing it for one stock because there is very little risk and downside. Let's say a stock falls to X1 price and then goes up to X2, then it falls back to near X1 and looks like consolidating and maybe a possible double bottom. The correct TA buy would be when it cross past X2 then one buys. I normally don't like to buy a stock more than 20 or 30c from where it start to come up from. Thus during consolidation phase, you can monitor the buying activity. If there is accumulaion, I would buy some during this consolidation phase and as the price move up before X2, I average up, and when it cross X2, I make one last buy. You can leverage at this point. If I start to make my first buy after X2, I might have to average up and end up having my last buy more than 40c from where the stock first started off from. | ||
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iPunter
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25-Nov-2008 11:45
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SupremeA... :)
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SupremeA
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25-Nov-2008 10:44
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In good times or bad, one's basic fundamental playing strategy must be sound, otherwise one is guaranteed to lose a lot of hard-earned money... Those who are at last asking about "the Beauty and the Beast Tutorials" (my personal bible) can find the ad copy here. The sooner one adopts a sound practical philosophy in one's market activities, the better. |
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iPunter
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25-Nov-2008 10:10
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Hahaha... you are right... :) |
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ten4one
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25-Nov-2008 09:45
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Aiyah, just keep thing simple and know yourself better; the rest will take care of itself. Cheers! | ||
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25-Nov-2008 09:42
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Ahh...the ebook salesman is silently peddling his "goods" again. | ||
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Livermore
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24-Nov-2008 22:02
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Have a plan what you want to buy. You cannot buy everything. Trying to buy everything is a very "messy" strategy | ||
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Livermore
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24-Nov-2008 21:59
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In some ways some of the steps below are a bit hard to implement under current market condition.
1. Decide what stocks to buy. All the stocks belong to a different class. You cannot expect a
BMW to be in same class as a Toyota.
2. Then work out how much capital you are putting in.
3. Allocate how many lots for each of the stocks you wish to buy and what is the range you want to
average up . I won't buy more of a stock as it goes down but buy less. I prefer to buy
more when I see my stock going up and I am in paper profit. But I cannot keep averaging
up and I have to stop at a certain price. So that chart may help me in that.
4. In margin, I prefer to be in borrowing phase when I am in paper profit.This is important.
That's why I average up.
To me for some stock out there I ask myself what is the risk level when I enter now. Just don't put all your lots at one price. But first entry should be at a reasonable low risk level. There is no meaning buying a stock at $1 and then you still want to nimble all the way down to if it goes to 20c.
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AK_Francis
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24-Nov-2008 12:10
Yells: "Happy go lucky, cheers." |
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that r jargons. can eqp first liner with high beta n low beta for the other. FL stock trading with high vol n running in tendum with STI at times, may double % up, or down. ie SGX... SL stock trading with low vol n could hardly move with pace with STI. ie self explanary. Take a look at those in Catalist.
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wen.wen.89
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24-Nov-2008 11:33
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can anyone define first-liner and second-liner. couldnt find a definition on the web.. how do they affect our trades? |
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elfinchilde
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24-Nov-2008 00:07
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http://elfinchilde.blogspot.com/2008/11/where-700bil-is-going.html 'ere we go. rather than arguing about investing/trading styles, may as well spend time on self education. something interesting for ppl to read. The Plunge Protection Team. Ever heard of it? Anyone wondered how the DJIA can *methodically* drop about 400 pts every day for 6 days after Obama won, or how, the recovery in every down, like friday's, happens only in the last hour or so? Or how, in August, the COT report showed that 2 investment banks---yes, only two--had shorted 20% of the world's gold and silver supply, in the days prior to these commods crashing? Or why, on Nov 19, with the S&P down 4%, the Fed gave a massive short term loan at almost zero interest rate to GS, telling them to "put the funds immediately to work", whereupon GS immediately bought S&P futures at or above the bid price massively? food for thought. |
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iPunter
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23-Nov-2008 23:53
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You are right... Like they say, there are many ways to skin a cat... hehehe... 
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elfinchilde
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23-Nov-2008 22:42
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div plays: only take the traditional bona fide blues pls. reits and shipping etc were growth stocks, growth stocks have their boom-bust cycle. waverly: kepland/smm: there are some of these around, where they aren't quite 1st liners, but they aren't quite second liners either. Perhaps they are somewhere in between, the way s'pore is considered midway between 3rd world and 1st. In proper FA investing: if you are holding the parent company, you shouldn't be holding the daughter as well: since that is in effect leveraging. There should be a choice made between whether to hold the daughter or mother company. SPC/kepland are daughters of kepcorp. just as SMM is daughter of SCI. SIA as 1st liner. since it's our only airline. haha. it's similar to what i was saying: not all of the ST 30 components are in because they are blue chips. some are in for political/other reasons. Besides, SIA has a long history, sole national airline, plus temasek backing. these alone qualify it. traders/investors/etc. geez. give it a break folks. i'm more practical: if it works for you, take it. CW is right: it's about having a clear plan to play it objectively. Many ways for a stock to go, similarly, many ways for a person to make money in the market (and likewise, many ways to lose too). the best way is to take something that suits YOU---in terms of practical: how much time can you spend watching the market, can you stomach volaility, how big can you play etc---rather than just apeing people blindly. cheers! |
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iPunter
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23-Nov-2008 13:30
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Once and for all.... make no mistake about it... |
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