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singaporegal
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01-Jun-2006 22:02
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hi eddyte, Its usually the emotions of greed and fear that make us lose money and not our trading techniques. You got to ocntrol your emotions and let your brain take control. Otherwise, you'll go through an emotional roller coaster everytime you trade. lewsh88, Haha .. I envy your retired status. I'm surprised the shops are not so crowded. Its the school holidays now. Yah.. could be the bearish market sentiments. |
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tanglinboy
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01-Jun-2006 20:50
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I like your quote - "Sell in May and go away" Hahaha... good one. |
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lewsh88
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01-Jun-2006 20:32
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Hi gals & guys: I envy those of you who have pulled out two weeks ago and getting ready to watch football. I forgot the axion: "Sell in May and go away" and got stuck tight now! I'm one of those who cling to stocks like the "tai chap hai" (shanghai hairy crabs) and wouldn't let go when my stocks go down. However, I do not feel so miserable as all my stocks are paid up. I'm only paper down. I actually feel good compared to some others who are worse off than me with the banks taking their umbrellas away. As a retiree and since I am very free, I go shopping, as there is a sale going on everywhere. Probably due to the bearish market during the last two weeks, the shops in Orchard Road are not so crowded. |
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singaporegal
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01-Jun-2006 20:00
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I mainly use Accumulation/Distribution and Williams %R on individual stocks. |
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Sporeguy
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01-Jun-2006 18:58
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Hi sporegal, which TA indicators do you use ? Do you use the TA indicators on the ST Index or some other indices or on individual stock ? Can you enlighten us ? Thanks |
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eddyte
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01-Jun-2006 16:10
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Hi Singaporegal, I am glad you already out of the market. To tell you the truth, I am still doing ALLRIGHT this year (in black). It was GREAT a month ago though. I also use TA for my trade. I have been using TA for past three beautiful years. You definitely got out early. I only got out completely after the big drop. Worse, I went in again last week, and now holding some lossess (sigh....). I can read TA fine. My problem is I can't control my trading habit. My greed often takes control of me. Well. If you are nice enough, then you probably can advice all of us the best time to go in again. I believe we are near there. But I hve been wrong for past few weeks. Actually, Patience is the game. Too bad I don't have that and always go in too early (meaning more losss to cut). Thanks. |
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singaporegal
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01-Jun-2006 15:54
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Hi eddyte, I emphathize with you. Many people I know are also holding on to paper losses right now. This is actually the reason why I use TA instead of FA. With TA, there are rules and indicators that warn us to get the hell out of the market. Actually I am completely out of the market right now. The warning signs came up about 2 weeks before the crash. I pulled out all of my money even when the STI was peaking. I'm just a spectator now ... waiting for the right time to play again. |
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eddyte
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01-Jun-2006 15:39
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Well, Nostradamus. You are very right. Even when market is down so much, there are still investors holding on to their stocks (I am one of them), meaning we have not gone into extreme where everyone is crying foul. I agree with that. However, if you look at the conversation in some forums, you will realize that everyone is very bearish, and as a contrarian, this is a good sign for bulls. Are we gonna have a major crash?? Well, if we look at Year 2000 when market dropped drastically (similar to these past few weeks), there is a big difference. People were still bullish even markets dropped a lot at that time. But now people are not. People turned from bullish to bearish in less than a month time. So, are we gonna have a bounce in June? I believe so. Are we gonna make new high this year? I doubt. But I think at least it's not the end of the world (no major crash coming this year). Don't take my words. Trade according to your limit only. It's been the worst month for me since past three years. I m still cutting loss. Now down to 20% holding today. Still feeling gloomy. Gd Luck all! Pls share your thoughts. Thanks. |
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bambi_9
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01-Jun-2006 14:52
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hostradamus, feelin is mutual. so guess I am one of the minority lor. But still holding on the my stock. coz it is tooooooooooooo late to cut losses at this pt of time. Who knows, i might decide to call it a day and take a hike somewhere. |
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Nostradamus
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01-Jun-2006 13:17
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I feel that many investors are still holding on to their stocks and suffering losses. Analysts have been saying to hold on for a rebound. But it's just down again after rebounds. In fact, down more than up. Personally, myself and a few others think the bear market will continue. We are just a minority. |
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eddyte
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31-May-2006 23:12
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To Bistrio : I am sorry that I can't help you. I am also just a small investor like you and I also got hit badly recently. However, I never contra or margin unless I am very sure (or greedy), and it usually ends not well. I also don't trade through broker, it's all done thru the net. My broker is a guide for me to learn how other investors are behaving. Well...Looking at today : 1. Personally I chicken out today (Fear), I offload my portfolio (cut loss) till my holding is left with 30% only. In fact, I even tell myself that I m closing my book and watch World Cup for June. 2. Definitely shorting this morning and afternoon. Look at few stocks like Chartered, Utac, Sembcorp etc covering back at the end. 3. Analysts are telling investors not to bottom fish (ML)???? meaning we gonna get a crash later?? Is everyone thinking same as me? (Down and desperate?). I saw some in the forum feeling the same bearishness. BUT...My mind is asking me this simple question : If everyone is so bearish that June will be a slow and lousy World Cup month. Is it gonna be as we expect? I doubt, cause the small investors are always wrong. We might get a surprise June....(and I might be left behind...). For Investors - I see tiny light at the end of long long tunnel. For Shortist - You are getting greedy. Time to cover already. OK. Gd nite. Better day tomorrow. |
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bambi_9
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31-May-2006 15:34
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guess that the market sentiments happen earlier than world cup starts as analysts predicted. Those who have invested, just got to hold. Those who want to contra STAY OUT. |
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tanglinboy
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31-May-2006 14:52
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You're not alone in this lah .... I also kenna before last time. But my case not quite as jia lat as yours ..... I learn to just rely on myself. Now I just do trading using UOB Kayhian... never rely on broker anymore. |
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Bistrio
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31-May-2006 14:48
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StatsChip 07/05/04 Bought at $1.53 52 Lots and 08/06/04 another 15 Lots Dear eddyte or anyone out there, can kindly take a look at my investment. My broker is areal A%# H#@#. Two year ago she told me to buy n buy n she just earn n earn. Cant complain much me greedy too. Below information as 1/4/06 statement: Margin Shares Valuation: $20,250.00 / Traded Shares Valuation: $70,200.00 / Total Collateral: $90,450.00 Ledger Balance B/F: $42,875.79 / Maint Fee Mar'06: $15.75 / DR Int (06.00%) $214.50 / Trading account Balance C/F $43,106.04 / Net Liability: $43,106.06. 30/4/06: $1.35 / 15 Lots / StatsChip / Actual market value : $20,250.00 30/4/06: $1.35 / 52 Lots / StatsChip / Actual market value : $70,200.00 Grand Total: 67 Lots By the way how my............... any suggestion out there??? |
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Bistrio
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31-May-2006 14:31
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Dear eddyte or anyone out there, can kindly take a look at my investment. My broker is areal A%# H#@#. Two year ago she told me to buy n buy n she just earn n earn. Cant complain much me greedy too. Below information as 1/4/06 statement: Margin Shares Valuation: $20,250.00 / Traded Shares Valuation: $70,200.00 / Total Collateral: $90,450.00 Ledger Balance B/F: $42,875.79 |
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tanglinboy
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31-May-2006 14:11
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I think this is not the end... tommorow might go up a little because of some over-reaction but the general trend for the next 3-4 weeks would be down. this is just my gut sense speaking. too many things going against the market right now .... rising interest rates, high oil prices, nuclear standoff, World cup coming, falling US consumer confidence... |
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eddyte
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31-May-2006 14:02
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OK guys. Lets analyze the situation. Today is a bad day. There is definitely shorting going on. I have gone through several forums and realize that almost none of the forums have a word 'buy' in it. Are we in 'Fear' stage already? (I myself definitely feel a bit scared). Are we ready to buy now? or should we sell (cut loss)? Well, My mind is telling me that I have to cut loss to avoid further loss. So I m definitely in Fear. With market going down so quick so fast, I sense there is a lot of shorting going on (especially today). With this kind of situation, I believe the market should be near its temporary bottom. Should we buy now??? (It's not wise to try to catch bottom). Well...That's all. With this writing, you should know I am also in a very confused state. BB. Wish you all make profit. Pls do write how you feel of the market Honestly. Thanks. |
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mamasan
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31-May-2006 11:31
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no need to poll today, 100% bad. |
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Novocaine
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30-May-2006 16:28
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If USA wins the world cup maybe Fed wont increase rates?hehe..they be bz watching the world cup finals then n supporting their team! |
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BobChong
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30-May-2006 16:00
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Dear Eddyte Thanks for the kind explanation and it seems logical to me. Out of $200k, I am still 46% invested. |
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