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Sporeguy
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30-Nov-2010 09:17
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Infancy and calculus have the exactly the same statements and words for Decreasing operating cash flow & Conclusion paragraphs. Do you get from the same source (pls quote the source) ?
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infancybird
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30-Nov-2010 08:28
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Start looking at the Managment( who are they and at their Business tract record , not academic records) and their business economicmode of operational ( just keep setting up new clinic or buying up small existing clinics , high risk model) . Talk to experts who know China Outpatient Clinic business . It is prudent that yoyi STUDY them before you jump in or commit more fund into Healthway gp.
The financial statement of Healthway Medical Singapore stock don’t look quite healthy to me. Why? Decreasing operating cash flowOperating cash flow is the most important figure in a finance statement and it is also important to the operation of a company. It is basically the amount of money that is available to run the company. If the operating cash flow constantly decreasing or worst become negative, it mean that the Company is decreasing its net worth to run the company. When their liquid asset run out, the company will get into deep trouble! Having said this, let’s take a look at Healthway’s Cash flow. You should notice that the operating cash flow decreased since 2008. What make the situation worst is that, this year 2010 from Q1 to Q3 , their operating cash flow is NEGATIVE! ConclusionOther than the negative cash flow, the rest of the figure look alright to me. This company has low debt ratio, increasing revenue and earnings. Please note that in this article I did not analyze the management and economic moat of the company. Reader are encourage to analyze this 2 aspect before investing in this company.
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yummygd
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29-Nov-2010 22:07
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read..as u mentioned low debt ratio increase revenue n earnings. cash flow due to expansion decreased.(understandable n expected.) Lets hope Healthway China will start pulling its own weight soon. Giving it time.
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calculus1985
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29-Nov-2010 21:45
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Healthway's financial statement don't look quite healthy to me. read my analysis of healthway here |
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steven080967
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29-Nov-2010 13:57
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at the end of the day its all about the $$ isnt it? according to the papers, tmc also didnt want to sell until the money got too good to refuse....they pocket $200+ million yet still can practice as doctors for the "love" of medicine. healthway maybe just waiting to get their foundation right in SG & china then push for a higher bid. fingers crossed. |
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yummygd
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29-Nov-2010 12:50
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yeah thats what i heard too.
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steven080967
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29-Nov-2010 12:07
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sure dude, its not a short term deal, its building a brand name and developing the middle income market in china now......mainland chinese who can afford it will want and need "1st world" medical care that they perceive will be more reliable, consistent and effective compared to local medical services/care.
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pharoah88
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29-Nov-2010 11:48
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O V E R H E A R D : Healthway Owner was nOt wIllIng tO sell. Thomson Owner was wIllIng tO sell.
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infancybird
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29-Nov-2010 11:24
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Gentlemen, its sounds very attractive to layman or lay public when a Healthcare gp start talking about investing in China. ....to many ,it seems to be sure make money.....not necc, if this gp invest in ONLY General or Specialist clinic only because Chinese Outpatient setup is very different from Spore. You must travel to China to see how they operate and will find out 1st hand how tough it is as the local Chinese (rich and poor) visit only their own China Heatlthcare org and not the Foreign one usually. Rental is very high on 1st tier city and hard to get Committed & Dedicated oversea trained Doctors to run such outlets.Pse note that Salary Doctor usually produce poor result. I hope we do not get too emotional about someone making rude remark about healthway but a wise investor looking for longterm growth together with Healthway gp must seriously study the management and read the coy`s profit & loss (esp China sector P&L) to realise it is not all gold as they had so promised in their China venture. Let time tell us the truth and I hope I am wrong.
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steven080967
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29-Nov-2010 11:04
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hey fellas, stop bitching like a bunch of fish market aunties.....we playing in the big boys/girls league here :) was reading in the sunday papers...jim rogers comments....apart from commodities, he is betting on china's growing middle income consumption in the mid to long term.....agriculture, water treatment (china's water supply are getting polluted from all the shit from manufacturing boom), tourism.....i m thinking healthcare too! china's growing rich has health issues from all the accesses....diabetes are at an all time high in china (I m diabetic, so I follow diabetes news/trends), obesity which contributes to high blood, cardio issues and gout etc.....) so i am selling out my tech stocks on nasdaq and focusing my buying in healthway (which has china as part of their expansion strategy) and biotreat (water treatment with patented technology) both are good value at the moment :) sure its all a calculated bet but thats why we are in the game! |
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hawke009
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24-Nov-2010 11:08
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yalor... I agree with yummygd
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yummygd
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24-Nov-2010 10:00
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to each his own.If he is not with healthway let him be. as long as we are sure of our holdings dun let anyone influence ur mood. dun worry :) be happy!!
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shadowmoon
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23-Nov-2010 22:12
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Emm u not quite update in actual. For this few years, Peter Lim wealth had reduced from ~4billion to now ~2billion. Probably lost in investment? Or spend in some other thing??? Only Peter he himself knows. To be frank his real achievement comes from Wilmar investment from what i see. The real very very much profitable investment he had make in his life time. The rest ....emm ??? How much he has get in return til now, i believe u yrself should know since u are his faithful followers. Don't just follow........ Cheers pal.
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yummygd
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22-Nov-2010 10:45
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chill la. He wanna collect or take over. But 0,19 too high lor. So he sell make some money den side line. | ||||
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AnthonyTan
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22-Nov-2010 09:37
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Mr. Peter Lim has proven himself to be a successful investor. Likewise, many investors have gain tremendous investment knowledges from Warren Buffet and other gurus. Anyway, I have learned alot from them. Cheers. |
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BrandonTeo
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21-Nov-2010 22:47
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i am totally agreed with what Shadowmoon has mentioned. if you, Anthony Tan don't believe healthway just don't criticise others. a stock owned by Peter Lim doesn't means it is a good company and if Peter Lim has reduces his stake in a particular company also doesn't guarantee that he will not come back as major shares holder again! every investor have their own strategies in investing his money for obtaining the maximum profits! |
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shadowmoon
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21-Nov-2010 20:16
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actually me not acting smart but just guessing. Yr english must be ok right. In my statement i already put maybe, my dear friend. Anyway, yr questions seems to be against Healthway all the way. As u keep repeating similar question. Actually maybe u are a shortlist. But its your take, u may say anything u like. This is a forum, u are free to say what u like even if what u provided is not a useful info. Cheer pal.
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pharoah88
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20-Nov-2010 15:22
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AnthonyTan
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20-Nov-2010 13:24
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There r business synergies in the medical lines. Anyway I don't know the reason why PL sold out Healthway. I am sure you also don't know either not just because for the reason of buying TMC. So don't act smart, hahaha.
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shadowmoon
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20-Nov-2010 12:24
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Busineess strategy to get into Thomson medical maybe. Btw this question is being ask for times. ?????i thk it time to ask other better question than keep repeating it...my dear Anthony
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