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Fairygal
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30-Jun-2008 09:40
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Just ask those rich people and how many of these people are happy, to be exact, truly happy. They probably think they are happy when there are so many people around him/her most of the time, listening to him/her, giving him/her attention. Be in solitude for a day, away from the crowd, and ask oneself what's your idea of happiness, and at the next moment, ask oneself, are you happy, truly? You don't need to show your happiness in some case, you just feel it! Even the littliest thing can make you happy, case by case basis. Just my personal view. |
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iPunter
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30-Jun-2008 00:01
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I only speak for myself... |
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baseerahmed
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29-Jun-2008 23:41
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The 5 Steps to becoming a trader Step One: Unconscious Incompetence. This is the first step you take when starting to look into trading. you know that its a good way of making money because you've heard so many things about it and heard of so many millionaires. Unfortunately, just like when you first desire to drive a car you think it will be easy - after all, how hard can it be? Price either moves up or down - what's the big secret to that then - lets get cracking! Unfortunately, just as when you first take your place in front of a steering wheel you find very quickly that you haven't got the first clue about what you're trying to do. You take lots of trades and lots of risks. When you enter a trade it turns against you so you reverse and it turns again .. and again, and again. You may have initial success, and thats even worse - cos it tells your brain that this really is simple and you start to risk more money. You try to turn around your losses by doubling up every time you trade. Sometimes you'll get away with it but more often than not you will come away scathed and bruised You are totally oblivious to your incompetence at trading. This step can last for a week or two of trading but the market is usually swift and you move onth the next stage. Step Two - Conscious Incompetence Step two is where you realise that there is more work involved in trading and that you might actually have to work a few things out. You consciously realise that you are an incompetent trader - you don't have the skills or the insight to turn a regular profit. You now set about buying systems and e-books galore, read websites based everywhere from USA to the Ukraine. and begin your search for the holy grail. During this time you will be a system nomad - you will flick from method to method day by day and week by week never sticking with one long enough to actually see if it does work. Every time you come upon a new indicator you'll be ecstatic that this is the one that will make all the difference. You will test out automated systems on Metatrader, you'll play with moving averages, Fibonacci lines, support & resistance, Pivots, Fractals, Divergence, DMI, ADX, and a hundred other things all in the vein hope that your 'magic system' starts today. You'll be a top and bottom picker, trying to find the exact point of reversal with your indicators and you'll find yourself chasing losing trades and even adding to them because you are so sure you are right. You'll go into the live chat room and see other traders making pips and you want to know why it's not you - you'll ask a million questions, some of which are so dumb that looking back you feel a bit silly. You'll then reach the point where you think all the ones who are calling pips after pips are liars - they cant be making that amount because you've studied and you don't make that, you know as much as they do and they must be lying. But they're in there day after day and their account just grows whilst yours falls. You will be like a teenager - the traders that make money will freely give you advice but you're stubborn and think that you know best - you take no notice and overtrade your account even though everyone says you are mad to - but you know better. You'll consider following the calls that others make but even then it wont work so you try paying for signals from someone else - they don't work for you either. You might even approach a 'guru' like Rob Booker or someone on a chat board who promises to make you into a trader(usually for a fee of course). Whether the guru is good or not you wont win because there is no replacement for screen time and you still think you know best. This step can last ages and ages - in fact in reality talking with other traders as well as personal experience confirms that it can easily last well over a year and more nearer 3 years. This is also the step when you are most likely to give up through sheer frustration. Around 60% of new traders die out in the first 3 months - they give up and this is good - think about it - if trading was easy we would all be millionaires. another 20% keep going for a year and then in desperation take risks guaranteed to blow their account which of course it does. What may suprise you is that of the remaining 20% all of them will last around 3 years - and they will think they are safe in the water - but even at 3 years only a further 5-10% will continue and go on to actually make money consistently. By the way - they are real figures, not just some ive picked out of my head - so when you get to 3 years in the game dont think its plain sailing from there. Iv had many people argue with me about these timescales - funny enough none of them have been trading for more that 3 years - if you think you know better then ask on a board for someone who's been trading 5 years and ask them how long it takes to become fully 100% proficient. Sure i guess there will be exceptions to the rle - but i havent met any yet. Eventually you do begin to come out of this phase. You've probably committed more time and money than you ever thought you would, lost 2 or 3 loaded accounts and all but given up maybe 3 or 4 times but now its in your blood One day - im a split second moment you will enter stage 3. Step 3 - The Eureka Moment Towards the end of stage two you begin to realise that it's not the system that is making the difference. You realise that its actually possible to make money with a simple moving average and nothing else IF you can get your head and money management right You start to read books on the psychology of trading and identify with the characters portrayed in those books and finally comes the eureka moment. The eureka moment causes a new connection to be made in your brain. You suddenly realise that neither you, nor anyone else can accurately predict what the market will do in the next ten seconds, never mind the next 20 mins. Because of this revelation you stop taking any notice of what anyone thinks - what this news item will do, and what that event will do to the markets. You become an individual with your own method of trading You start to work just one system that you mould to your own way of trading, you're starting to get happy and you define your risk threshold. You start to take every trade that your 'edge' shows has a good probability of winning with. When the trade turns bad you don't get angry or even because you know in your head that as you couldn't possibly predict it it isn't your fault - as soon as you realise that the trade is bad you close it . The next trade or the one after it or the one after that will have higher odds of success because you know your system works. You stop looking at trading results from a trade-to-trade perspective and start to look at weekly figures knowing that one bad trade does not a poor system make. You have realised in an instant that the trading game is about one thing - consistency of your 'edge' and your discipline to take all the trades no matter what as you know the probabilities stack in your favour. You learn about proper money management and leverage - risk of account etc etc - and this time it actually soaks in and you think back to those who advised the same thing a year ago with a smile. You weren't ready then, but you are now. The eureka moment came the moment that you truly accepted that you cannot predict the market. Step 4 - Conscious Competence You are making trades whenever your system tells you to. You take losses just as easily as you take wins You now let your winners run to their conclusion fully accepting the risk and knowing that your system makes more money than it looses and when you're on a loser you close it swiftly with little pain to your account You are now at a point where you break even most of the time - day in day out, you will have weeks where you make 100 pips and weeks where you lose 100 pips - generally you are breaking even and not losing money. You are now conscious of the fact that you are making calls that are generally good and you are getting respect from other traders as you chat the day away. You still have to work at it and think about your trades but as this continues you begin to make more money than you lose consistently. You'll start the day on a 20 pip win, take a 35 pip loss and have no feelings that you've given those pips back because you know that it will come back again. You will now begin to make consistent pips week in and week out 25 pips one week, 50 the next and so on. This lasts about 6 months Step Five - Unconscious Competence Now we’re cooking - just like driving a car, every day you get in your seat and trade - you do everything now on an unconscious level. You are running on autopilot. You start to pick the really big trades and getting 200 pips in a day doesnt make you any more excited that getting 1 pips. You see the newbies in the forum shouting 'go dollar go' as if they are urging on a horse to win in the grand national and you see yourself - but many years ago now. This is trading utopia - you have mastered your emotions and you are now a trader with a rapidly growing account. You're a star in the trading chat room and people listen to what you say. You recognise yourself in their questions from about two years ago. You pass on your advice but you know most of it is futile because they're teenagers - some of them will get to where you are - some will do it fast and others will be slower - literally dozens and dozens will never get past stage two, but a few will. Trading is no longer exciting - in fact it's probably boring you to bits - like everything in life when you get good at it or do it for your job - it gets boring - you're doing your job and that's that. Finally you grow out of the chat rooms and find a few choice people who you converse with about the markets without being influenced at all. All the time you are honing your methods to extract the maximum profit from the market without increasing risk. Your method of trading doesnt change - it just gets better - you now have what women call 'intuition' You can now say with your head held high "I'm a currency trader" but to be honest you dont even bother telling anyone - it's a job like any other. I hope youve enjoyed reading this journey into a traders mind and that hopefully youve identified with some points in here. Remember that only 5% will actually make it - but the reason for that isnt ability, its staying power and the ability to change your perceptions and paradigms as new information comes available. The losers are those who wanted to 'get rich quick' but approached the market and within 6 months put on a pair of blinkers so they couldnt see the obvious - a kind of "this is the way i see it and thats that" scenario - refusing to assimilate new information that changes that perception. Im happy to tell you that the reason i started trading was because of the 'get rich quick' mindset. Just that now i see it as 'get rich slow' If youre thinking about giving up i have one piece of advice for you .... Ask yourself the question "how many years would you go to college if you knew for a fact that there was a million dollars a year job at the end of it? Take care and good trading to you all. I left of the name of the author of this piece by mistake. If anyone knows the name of the true author, please let me know and I'll add it here. Thanks and sorry for the confusion. Dial http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=3156 |
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baseerahmed
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29-Jun-2008 20:10
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*grinning devilishly* tounge in cheek ... let me make u all happy ... ok, in order for u to be happy u don't need money ... therefore parting with money will make u happy ... so, all of u who want to be happy and rich ...PM me for my bank account number to transfer money to my account ... this will definitely make u happy .... if this makes u happy ... i too will be happy .... hahaha ! *grinning angelically* : ) |
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singaporegal
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29-Jun-2008 19:49
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Check this out - http://www.answers.com/topic/epicureanism Epicurus was a philosopher in ancient Greek times. He was devoted to the study and pursuit of happiness. According to him, to be happy, you do not need money.
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stupidfool
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29-Jun-2008 19:30
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Money does buy happiness.Anyone who says otherwise is rich. | ||
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baseerahmed
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29-Jun-2008 16:53
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... have been thousands of years in human history.. many Teachers,Leaders, Prophets and Saints have come and gone .. yet the ideal is still elusive ..the tussle between the ideal and the reality is an on going one it seems ... somehow reality kicks in to shatter the ideal ... sigh... they said that many many times ... and now it seems its our turn to say it all over again ... hahaha ! |
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OneSharer
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29-Jun-2008 16:42
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Strange. Whenever I try to recall special moments, they rarely, if ever, consist of anything expensive (e.g. big meals or large gatherings). In fact, they are circumstances that I don't want to experience again but memories that I treasure. Try recalling yours.... |
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elfinchilde
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29-Jun-2008 15:55
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baseer, it's a saying from victorian times, that man is made of the angel and the animal. think it's something in our culture tho. where we define happiness as the possession of a louis vuitton handbag, or a district 10 address. when really, if you ask me, such happiness is fool's gold. happiness is an intangible quality of being. Of what use is all the money and power in the world, if when you're in trouble, not a single true friend will come to your aid, if your wife/husband doesn't believe in you, and your children hate you? Men are such silly creatures, creatures of appetite and ambition, believing themselves lions and kings of the world, seeking to conquer everything. When what is within is impoverished for want of cultivation. A good mind, a stout heart, guts to see things through, good friends who'd on a word from you, go to the ends of the earth with you. And the ability to laugh at it all when all is said and done. With all these, even with nothing in your pocket and nothing to your name, what does one have to fear? Anything is possible. What's US1mil compared to the above? Money can be lost, but character, never. It's not refinement of wealth we should be seeking most, but refinement of character. we should be careful that in our pursuit of the material, we do not lose sight of the immaterial. weekend elfin thoughts. cheers. :) |
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AK_Francis
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29-Jun-2008 12:54
Yells: "Happy go lucky, cheers." |
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ha ha, AK opoine that now only 77000 people in Spore are happy,as their assets are more than a million USD each. though I am not one of them, I also happy lah. Cheers. | ||
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baseerahmed
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29-Jun-2008 12:41
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having said that ... despite all these advances in science are we humans any happier for it ? are we living a life of carefree happy life ...? or are we squeezed in all directions by the Mighty Money (MM) ... hahaha ! .......looks like the Power of Science has to bow to the Mighty Money ...hahaha ! ..so we have both the Angel and the Devil within us ..... hahaha ! |
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iPunter
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29-Jun-2008 12:23
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I foresee a collosally profitable market of unimaginable proportions for people-cloning. |
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baseerahmed
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29-Jun-2008 10:44
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.. and the Power of Imagination and the Ingenuity of the Human Mind ! |
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baseerahmed
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29-Jun-2008 10:39
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tanglinboy , we are now in the 21st century ... for a person from the 19th century and the 20th century ... this was their future ... their science fiction ... looks like we are living in their science fiction ....for example .. seeing pictures and talking thru internet and mobile phones across the globe while sitting at the bus stop .... hahaha ! looks like we are even going to cheat the ultimate law of death with the science of cloning ... remember the cloning of pet dogs in korea ... yeah what was science fiction .... is now a reality ..... its mind blowing .... the Power of Science ... hahaha ! |
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tanglinboy
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29-Jun-2008 10:22
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Sounds like science fiction.... hehehe..
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baseerahmed
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28-Jun-2008 21:48
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kee jang , you should be proud of urself ! knowingly or unknowingly, u have been a reason for creating this vibrant online community here in SJ ! directly or indirectly u have been a reason to touch so many lives in here , hopefully for the better! |
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iPunter
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28-Jun-2008 19:43
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The best id would, of course, be a personal 'DNA tag'. |
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AK_Francis
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28-Jun-2008 02:08
Yells: "Happy go lucky, cheers." |
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ayoh, if I know when I am apprehended, I will be sentenced to death. Would it be a good choice to kill some one and do eyes transprant and making use of his passport to lull the authority??? Not sure, a wild guess but could be possible with state of the art bio technology.. | ||
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cashiertan
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27-Jun-2008 19:59
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eye scanning is actually the best and most secured. u can blur ur fingerprint, changed your face but u can change or alter ur eyes. other than wearing cloloured lenses , lost eyes and eyes illness. cant really find any other way it doesnt work.. |
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AK_Francis
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27-Jun-2008 18:17
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agreed, thumb print may not be full proved. it quite embarrassed when custom officer asking u to approach to the counter for further verification. AK kena few times alrdy, as my left thumb contour alrdy been declared that it will not work during my service. ha ha, not sure the escapee got brother or not? now taking this admin lapse advantage, brother using the escapee passport to board at Ter 2 and the escapee using his brother passport to board at budget terminal or Seletar Air Field couples of mins later when people are overwhelming with joys when news being announced that the escapee had been apprehended, after mths. |
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