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elfinchilde
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12-Dec-2007 22:43

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i love this market. lol. bought calls today. it's play time. hey where's cashiertan? i wanna kaki for warrants leh....

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huatah
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12-Dec-2007 22:38

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No jokes man.. opening was such a shocker to me.. one day drop pant and brief.. next day wear back cum sweater.. alamak.. #%* chow ang moh.. KNS..

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lausk22
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12-Dec-2007 22:35

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Mr Mani

Traders love such factors. Right? Smiley

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tanglinboy
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12-Dec-2007 22:32

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Dow opens +215 points.

Damn stupid crazy global stock market...

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Manikamaniko.
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12-Dec-2007 19:11

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The "fear factor" is always counterbalanced by the "greed factor" at the slightest whim... Smiley

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Pinnacle
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12-Dec-2007 09:15

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They want big cut.

Not T cut, or special cut. Smiley

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huatah
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12-Dec-2007 09:08

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Indeed.. de fear had clashes my hopes....

Haiz.. no cut.. complaint.. cut aredi.. still not happy.. wat they wants..

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Pinnacle
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12-Dec-2007 09:03

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STI already down by 2%.

Your hope is still only a hope. You can never beat the "fear" factor.

I had learnt long time ago to respect the market. So play with the trend and momentum.

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huatah
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12-Dec-2007 08:58

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DJ up.. STI at times dive south.. so hopefully DJ down.. today STI up.. heehee

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Pinnacle
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12-Dec-2007 08:55

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Of course its a corection.

Market had priced in the 0.5% cut in the previous few days of gain. So yesterday, the market was correcting itself for the wrong anticipation.

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mirage
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12-Dec-2007 08:38

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Market Overview

Market Summary USAAMERICASEUROPEASIACURRENCIES

Major Market Indexes
Industry Indexes
International Indexes
Sector Performance
Rates

*DJIA*	*13,432.77*	*-294.26*	*-2.14%*

*Nasdaq*	*2,652.35*	*-66.60*	*-2.45%*

*S&P 500*	*1,477.65*	*-38.31*	*-2.53%*

Dow Util	539.83	-12.91	-2.34%

NYSE	9,838.26	-266.16	-2.63%

AMEX	2,372.37	-54.47	-2.24%

Russell 2000	766.27	-24.93	-3.15%

Semcond	423.27	-8.98	-2.08%

Gold future	817.10	+3.60	+0.44%

30-Year Bond	4.48%	-0.13	-2.88%

10-Year Bond	3.99%	-0.16	-3.83%

Market Diaries

Issues:	NYSE	Nasdaq

Advancing	513	644

Declining	2,682	2,390

Unchanged	65	98

Total:	3,260	3,132

Issues at:

52-Week High	10	12

52-Week Low	43	91

Volume:

Advancing	101,445,000	359,176,000

Declining	1,442,512,000	1,859,822,000

Unchanged	4,268,000	-72,309,000

Total:	1,548,225,000	2,146,689,000

12/11/2007 7:22:00 PM

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Most Active by Volume on 12/11/2007
Symbol	Last	Change	Volume

WM	17.42	-2.460	152.81M

IWM	76.35	-2.780	120.36M

C	33.23	-1.540	85.68M

GE	37.03	-0.380	66.54M

CFC	11.33	-1.180	58.64M

T	39.46	+1.560	56.94M

F	6.97	-0.170	51.61M

PFE	23.83	-0.540	43.97M

AMD	9.07	-0.110	39.72M

JPM	45.94	-1.480	38.46M

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Manikamaniko.
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12-Dec-2007 08:36

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Why the pessimism?

Take a look at this 6-month Dow Chart here and you'll see it's more likely to be a correction of the recent consecutive gains.

So, it's really still too early to jump the gun... Smiley

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Pinnacle
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12-Dec-2007 08:29

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Just as expected. Hoping the market to prove me wrong, but what a big disappointment. *Sign*

So Santa is not coming to town this X'mas.

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x 0 x 0 * Alert Admin	With the improved job and housing data, it is tempting for Fed to cut just 0.25%. However, the current market movement seem to be pricing in 0.5% cut. IF tomorrow night is really just a 0.25% cut, it may be another big sell down.

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singaporegal
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12-Dec-2007 07:43

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Dow fell by 294 points last night.

Wall Street to Fed: Not good enough

Stocks tank after the Fed cuts rates by a quarter-percentage point, rather than the half some had hoped. Dour comments on the economy factor in too.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks slumped and bonds rallied Tuesday after the Federal Reserve cut the fed funds rate by a quarter-percentage point, as expected, but disappointed some investors looking for a bigger cut.

The Dow Jones industrial average (Charts) lost 294 points, or 2.1 percent. It was the blue-chip indicator's seventh worst day of the year in terms of both the point and percentage loss.

The broader S&P 500 (Charts) index lost 2.5 percent. The tech-fueled Nasdaq (Charts) composite lost almost 2.5 percent. The Russell 2000 small-cap index fell 3.1 percent.

"The stock market was looking for a bigger cut and so there's some disappointment," said Georges Yared, chief investment strategist at Yared Investment Research.

The selling was also influenced by the recent rally on Wall Street, which had left the Dow and S&P 500 within reach of the record highs hit in October.

"The market has gone up in recent weeks on expectations that the Fed would cut, so you're seeing a 'buy the rumor, sell the news' reaction," said Alan Skrainka, chief market strategist at Edward Jones.

Wednesday brings the October trade balance and the weekly oil inventories report. Fed cuts rates by a quarter p

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cashiertan
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11-Dec-2007 06:54

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This Rally is either unsustainable or will have a big retracement soon.. Sell on Rally strength this week.

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mirage
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11-Dec-2007 06:16

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Market Overview

Market Summary USAAMERICASEUROPEASIACURRENCIES

Major Market Indexes
Industry Indexes
International Indexes
Sector Performance
Rates

*DJIA*	*13,727.03*	*+101.45*	*+0.74%*

*Nasdaq*	*2,718.95*	*+12.79*	*+0.47%*

*S&P 500*	*1,515.96*	*+11.30*	*+0.75%*

Dow Util	552.74	+2.08	+0.38%

NYSE	10,104.42	+80.84	+0.81%

AMEX	2,426.84	+24.83	+1.03%

Russell 2000	791.20	+5.68	+0.72%

Semcond	432.25	+3.18	+0.74%

Gold future	813.50	+13.30	+1.66%

30-Year Bond	4.62%	+0.03	+0.65%

10-Year Bond	4.15%	+0.03	+0.70%

Market Diaries

Issues:	NYSE	Nasdaq

Advancing	2,016	1,675

Declining	1,156	1,333

Unchanged	83	118

Total:	3,255	3,126

Issues at:

52-Week High	67	35

52-Week Low	13	55

Volume:

Advancing	841,668,000	1,159,149,000

Declining	321,144,000	629,445,000

Unchanged	9,563,000	23,856,000

Total:	1,172,375,000	1,812,450,000

12/10/2007 5:00:00 PM

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Most Active by Volume on 12/10/2007
Symbol	Last	Change	Volume

C	34.77	+0.460	57.13M

IWM	79.10	+0.750	49.83M

CFC	12.51	+0.970	48.90M

F	7.14	+0.080	46.08M

GE	37.41	+0.180	44.47M

T	37.90	-0.570	31.71M

BAC	46.64	+1.270	30.39M

WM	19.88	+0.850	27.55M

PFE	24.37	-0.030	24.73M

AMD	9.18	+0.130	23.85M

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mirage
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11-Dec-2007 06:13

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UBS to take further $10 billion subprime write-down

Swiss group to post quarterly loss; gets $11.5 billion capital injection

By Simon Kennedy, MarketWatch

Last update: 11:57 a.m. EST Dec. 10, 2007

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Swiss banking giant UBS warned Monday that it will write down the value of its subprime mortgage holdings by a further $10 billion, leading to a loss in the fourth quarter and potentially wiping out all its profits for the year.

In a bid to soothe the bad news, the bank also announced plans for a capital injection of 13 billion Swiss francs ($11.5 billion) from the government of Singapore and an unnamed investor in the Middle East. The plans would give Singapore a roughly 9% stake, making it the Swiss group's biggest shareholder.

Bankers' write-downs

UBS	$13.7 bln
Citigroup	*$13.7 bln
Merrill Lynch	$8.4 bln
Morgan Stanley	$4.6 bln
HSBC	$3.4 bln
Bank of America	*$3.3 bln
Deutsche Bank	$3.1 bln
Barclays	$2.7 bln
Royal Bank of Scotland	$2.6 bln
Bear Stearns	$1.9 bln
Credit Suisse	$1.9 bln
JP Morgan Chase	$1.6 bln
Goldman Sachs	$1.5 bln
Wachovia Bank	$1.1 bln
Lehman Bros.	$0.7 bln
Total:	$64.2 bln

Data: Companies, since Q3 * Est.

"Conditions in the U.S. mortgage and housing markets have continued to deteriorate, and we have updated our loss assumptions to the levels implied by the current distressed market for mortgage securities," said CEO Marcel Rohner in a statement.

"In the last several months, continued speculation about the ultimate value of our subprime holdings -- which remains unknowable -- has been distracting," Rohner added.

"In our judgment these write-downs will create maximum clarity on this issue and will have the effect of substantially eliminating speculation."

With the latest announcements, UBS has recorded $13.7 billion in write-downs, more than any European bank. The group took a write-down of around $3.4 billion in early October, but warned later in the month that it may have to take more charges if the U.S. housing market deteriorated further.

UBS had expected to return to profit in the fourth quarter after reporting an 830 million-franc loss in the third quarter.

'In our judgment these write-downs will create maximum clarity on this issue and will have the effect of substantially eliminating speculation.'

? Marcel Rohner, chief executive

But on Monday the group said it now expects a loss in the fourth quarter and added it's "possible" that it'll record a loss for the whole of 2007.

"The write-downs and capital raising represent a dramatic u-turn from guidance given by Chief Financial Officer Marco Suter just three weeks ago," said Keefe, Bruyette & Woods analyst Matthew Clark.

Suter had guided investors not to expect big write-downs in the fourth quarter, though Clark noted market conditions have deteriorated since then.

"Given that the capital-raising outweighs the write-down, this appears to be an attempt to draw a line under UBS's subprime woes," he added.

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UBS 51.66, +1.18, +2.3%) lost as much as 3.4% before swinging higher. At last check, the stock was up 2.2% at $51.59 as investors saw the cash injection as a vote of confidence in the group's core business. Also see Europe Markets.

The additional write-downs were partially priced into the shares, which had fallen around 8% since the start of November as credit markets deteriorated again.

Bear Stearns analyst Christopher Wheeler said the announcement helped to move the focus away from UBS' subprime holdings and onto its earnings potential.

In a note to clients, Wheeler added that the move would lead to a reduced reliance on investment banking and greater focus on wealth management. UBS has been under fire for its poor investment banking performance for some time and the shift "must be positive and could help the stock move up in the medium term," Wheeler said.

Rohner confirmed that the investment banking arm will focus more on supporting the asset and wealth management units.

"In future, we will make certain that our investment banking operations grow by concentrating on serving the needs of institutional and corporate clients," he said in the statement.

Capital injection

UBS' surprise announcement came a day ahead of a planned investor meeting. The group said the cash injection is intended to ensure it maintains a very strong capital base.

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We are dangerously approaching Zero Hour when no matter how much money is pumped into the economy, it has no effect. People shorting the market are slowing the process but eventually this market will tank. GGBIW

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koolsice
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10-Dec-2007 23:58

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DOW looks to be climbing in anticipation of good news from the Fed. STI should most likely open up as well if the current positive signal from DOW continues..

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Pinnacle
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10-Dec-2007 23:56

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With the improved job and housing data, it is tempting for Fed to cut just 0.25%.

However, the current market movement seem to be pricing in 0.5% cut.

IF tomorrow night is really just a 0.25% cut, it may be another big sell down.

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cashiertan
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10-Dec-2007 21:48

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agree with elf

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