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Manikamaniko.
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13-Nov-2007 18:01
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Some time in the past, it has been said that November and December are good months to buy stocks... how true is that?...
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ozone2002
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13-Nov-2007 17:57
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just accumulate those good shares that drop by 5-20%... pick them up and get ready for the year end rally.. watch this space.. |
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Farmer
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13-Nov-2007 16:58
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But we still have to decide now what to do with our hard earn $? Whether to buy land, property, shares, bond, put in fd, leave in in sav acct or under your pillow......in order to make it work harder for you! |
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Manikamaniko.
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13-Nov-2007 16:57
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Singaporegal Dajiejie must be lapping up and enjoying every word of Elfin's goodies... hehehe... |
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moneyface
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13-Nov-2007 16:47
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victorf awaiting your good news i hope.... 
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victorf
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13-Nov-2007 16:44
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market will tell us whether it will move up or down with certainty within two weeks time (some indicators showing up)...and it is not us who decide...it is the market that decides :) |
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elfinchilde
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13-Nov-2007 16:18
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hullo cashiertan, good to see ya here. :) yeps. just to share elf's own method (pls take it as just general advice tho, and adapt to fit your own personality, since there's no one style fits all method of trading/investing): -not more than 25% of total capital in one counter. for investing. this tends to be entered in parts, slowly, rather than all at one shot. i play only long trends for this (MACD bottoming to peak), and strict criteria: NAV, PE ratio, cash flow all are considerations. -not more than 10% of funds for each technical trade (it's actually closer to 5%). Can either be a bottoming trend to peak (might be weeks), or can be an intraday scalp: sometimes i'll run a trade in less than an hr. But generally, the riskier the trade, the less $ i'd put in. cos if one thinks long term, that you'd spend years playing the market, then really, what's the hurry? -yah. as per what cashiertan says. not more than 5 counters. i track an entire basket of stocks tho; some act as 'weathervanes', some are KIV, some are in operation. but the idea is to focus, so one doesn't lose concentration. -if your loss is 150k, do i assume you're playing margin? in which case, for me, i go to max 200%, excluding cash reserves. so even in drastic drops, i'm lowest abt 170% (the aug 17 crash), which gives enough funds to flip a loss. -stop loss policy. that's the most impt. 5% loss, exit. There's a trick tho: cos sometimes it just falls too fast, and you aren't watching so can't cut in time. in which case, it's mathematical: wait for bottoming and DCA the dang thing out. Take hell of a lot of nerves tho. urgh. and your technical skills has to be good enough to estimate when/where the bottoming is likely to be. ok! talk too much liao. break over, back to work. :) PS: the most impt thing: never listen to tips. haha. |
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cashiertan
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13-Nov-2007 16:05
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agree with elf, per trade should not take more than 2-5% of ur total capital, per holding should be more than 15-20%. dun trade more than 5 counters as most ppl who trade more than 3-5 also cant handle liao. |
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elfinchilde
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13-Nov-2007 15:55
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hm..and perhaps most important thing..when one plays the market, you're essentially playing against yourself. so know your own weaknesses, where you tend to act wrongly, and put measures in place to control that. i learnt that the hard way myself; it's ultra necessary tho. cheers to you! :) |
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elfinchilde
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13-Nov-2007 15:51
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hey jasonfaxingliu, my sympathies to you... just personal reading of market here, hope it can aid you: sit still for this period of time. don't jump to enter yet. some stocks have bottomed, but a lot are just a third or midway through bottoming. The fund houses know things that they aren't telling. do enter your stocks in parts rather than whacking all one shot--might be more 'cowardly' this way, but capital preservation should be paramount. (this is the investing style). If you're a trader (dif style), it's fast in fast out all at once, in which case, a ruthlessly applied stop-loss policy is called for. as a tip, if you're playing for year end recovery, look for the blues. in any downturn, they'll recover first. Your next major up is beijing olympics. ie, sell all by jul-aug 08. Good luck! :) |
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CWQuah
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13-Nov-2007 15:49
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Jason, Market rebound just occurred, you may want to consider selling during the rallies (should see one tomorrow and the day after). You may want to review your portfolio, I'm a bit surprised at how volatile your portfolio is. -$150k??? I'm not too sure if you're the investor type, or day trader type. If you have the time, do pick up a bit of Technical Analysis. TA saved my ass today. At one point I almost lost $5000 today, but now already back in the black. |
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jasonfaxingliu
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13-Nov-2007 14:39
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its good to remain small so you'll gain experience and when time is right, hit on high vloume.. I have -10K in Aug and got back to +10K, went down to -30K in Sep and back to +20K and this time round -150K so how shuold I react ?? |
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NanaShigeru
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13-Nov-2007 14:15
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jasonfaxingliu , same sentiments here. enter the market at the wrong time. total losses this month is closed to 2k 
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jasonfaxingliu
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13-Nov-2007 14:02
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Hi victorf, Only if I've be here earlier. Unfortunately, I am a newbie who enter the market in August when it first crash. Manager to get my position back to positive in September and met another crash in September, this time more serious and the killing part is when I recover losses in October and met the October crash and this October crash seems never end till now. I am into heavy losses now and what should I do? Are we heading for any positive note? Or should I call it a day for a long break ! |
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paperless
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13-Nov-2007 13:37
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Park your $$ at insurance companies. |
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CWQuah
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13-Nov-2007 12:51
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Ironically, inflation is somewhat mitigated against if one buys assets - buying at a cheaper level now to guard against asset inflation in future. But this tends to drive prices up further if everyone does the same thing. This is what is happening in China. |
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Farmer
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13-Nov-2007 12:49
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Good suggestions! Buy land to build houses or farming.......but not in Sg definitely. |
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DnApeh
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13-Nov-2007 12:45
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Hey farmer, buy land or house lah. |
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novena_33
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13-Nov-2007 12:45
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im sure it will be tested 3434....... some time this week.... 
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Farmer
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13-Nov-2007 12:42
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With the inflation slowly creeping up, target 5% next year, I believe smart investor will not keep all their $ in the bank. With the CDO issue still looming, bond is not safe either. So where to park our hard earn $$? Any better suggestion? |
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