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cashiertan
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30-Nov-2007 20:36
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basheer, i believe in constructive debate to bring out the true essence of it issue. diplomatic response is not my cup of tea. this is my style of learning. lol. some may not like it but i admit i m not trying to be nice in this forum. genie is good for certain ppl and a good to have thou not essential. elf, ibelieve have reached a more adv stage for genie. theorist get genie pragmatist get master trader activist get the trading vid series is what i think should be a better choice if $ is the issue. way to trade ebook, i not sure as noting much is included, however i think the ebook of either master traders and genie guideline should be sufficient. mastering just one will be sufficient. just genie or master trader ebook alone is areadi alot le, i really mean really alot! lol. Mani, have get the other ebook and the vid package u mentioned below? |
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baseerahmed
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30-Nov-2007 20:10
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when Titans speak, sparks fly... wonderful fireworks display .. and nourishing morsels for mere mortals .. salute ! |
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Manikamaniko.
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30-Nov-2007 18:32
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Cashier.. :) hahahha... thanks for promoting me to Dr. Manikamaniko...  I agree with what you said about different people needing different things, but since I am personally so overwhelmingly impressed by the "Stock Market Genie" package, I am singling it out for recommendation as a "Panadol" to all who play the stock market... Others may prefer to whet their unique craving appetite with the following products:- 1. "Master Trader". This is for advanced traders. The plus point of this package is the great bonuses that come with this package, such as "The Penny Stocks Trading System". This bonus item explains the fundamental ins and outs of trading in penny stocks not available elsewhere as far as I know. 2. "Way to Trade" . Another superb no-frills guide for advanced traders! 3. "Trade Secrets Video Programme". This will appeal to visually-oriented learners who dread reading from books. Great product. There you have... take your pick! ... Learning is part of the exciting journey... enjoy the learning... enjoy the adventure...
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cashiertan
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30-Nov-2007 17:33
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if really need to master, i suggest elliot wave. so u can know when to sell high buy low lol genie is good for those who believe in theory aka theorist. not for pragmatist, activist or reflector thou. thats y i know u are a theorist becoz u like this ebook i find it too much of reading thou just 10 modules. each modules have many pages. also too many philosophy liao, thou good to have but wont make much difference in actual trading. basic cut lost early and hold ur winning stocks (dun cut too early) will be sufficent to summarize the trading strategy this genie wanna teach. u will feel good like bread for the staving soul but when u start reading it but it become a drag after a while when the philolosophy /psychology part getting more and more. basically, i know that those quotes looks powerful but after ahile it is just plain logic. become stale bread after 2 chapters. lol i wont blame as the writers is all couple. more naggy. lol in fact too ovewhelming for the other 3 types of ppl, the trading vids package which u also recommend will be of better choice. you are like a doctor who prescribe panadol for all ailments, i prefer specific medicine for specific illness. lol |
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Manikamaniko.
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30-Nov-2007 17:00
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Cashier.. :) You are right... and I agree with many of your words too... The "Stock Market Genie" book is really not too suitable for very advanced traders... It is only ideal for those who need a high-quality reference manual (something like an ancient secret Taoist 's manual of wisdom) to guide them throughout their trading life. Though you have no need to proceed beyond the initial modules, I do think many others will find it a godsend. I do, and this is in spite of my accumulated knowledge already gained through having myself purchased hundreds of stock market books in the past. Although the 10-modules contain a lot of essential knowledge packed inside, what is more important is the all-round foundation it provides through a well-thought out presentation package. If there is just one guide for anyone to master for success in the stock market , this is it. .. |
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cashiertan
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30-Nov-2007 16:26
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mani, frankly, i havent read past chapter 2 of the genie coz i dun really prefer reading as my way of learning, there is 4 types of way ppl learn and most of the ppl just suit one way. reading for learning may suit u but not the 3 other types of ppl. for me, i think thou it is a good ebooks to get, i still prefer to have a actual indicator to learn from. or see how ppl trade live on videos, rather than reading ebooks. thus i didnt want to post much abt the genie. also the genie ebook is abit heavy on the theory part thou it have many good quotes, i doubt it is necessary to learn all or most of them. elf got her style of learning, i believe she will know how to upgrade soon. she may get or dun get the genie book but life still go on, i doubt she will earn more or less after reading the genie book as i think her skill need more improving on the strategy portion, which the genie ebook just cover the basic, i think she will need more pratical advanced strategy like the "master trader", maybe just wanna say, what suit u doesn mean it will suit the other 3 persons with each different style of learning. just like trading, different ppl suit different style of trading |
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Manikamaniko.
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30-Nov-2007 15:58
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1. Elfin wrote:-... [[ well. since it's a zzz market, time to pick up on the education! :) ]] Elfin... forgive me for asking... Do you own the "Stock Market Genie" education package? If not, then your knowledge is just disorganised 'rojak', so to speak. But with that manual, your whole approach to the stock market is purposefully streamlined. 2. Elfin wrote:-... [[ think shd get a cfd account. so many stocks can predict down, but can only sit and watch. sigh.]] Elfin... Again, forgive me for saying this... Why is a person with such vast experience and knowledge like you still without a CFD account!??? It's simply unthinkable! Hope you will take this objectively without any feelings whatsoever... |
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cashiertan
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30-Nov-2007 14:48
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i also not old lah, just look at historical charts will give u a better guideline. today is a good day to take profit. |
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elfinchilde
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30-Nov-2007 14:41
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sorry, what's the difference between a recession and a bear? big bear baby bear? was too young for the 97 one, only have some dim memories. 01 didn't quite affect since wasn't yet legal to trade either.. well. since it's a zzz market, time to pick up on the education! :) for the worried taxpayers *haha*, relax, i'm on leave today lah. |
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elfinchilde
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30-Nov-2007 14:36
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yah, kilroy. you sound more like you're trying to convince yourself rather than us. esp with the bit about posting trading techniques to remind yourself. LOL. great articles tho. :) think shd get a cfd account. so many stocks can predict down, but can only sit and watch. sigh. cashiertan, ah, i see what you mean. thanks! i was doing it by the actual wave. very weak rally tho. bbs are in, just very cautiously and for some counters only. sgx is doing very well. hehe. and yups! i finally got my calls! heehee. |
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cashiertan
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30-Nov-2007 14:24
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the world economy still well so far, i doubt we are going into a recession at 2008, maybe a bear or wave 5 selldown. however, i doubt we are going into recession. just see the histroy chart at yahoo. 2001 recession is bigger (as in dips) than any recession just after the great depression. even the 1997 did not last as long. with nasdaq all time high still not breached, i think we will have more to go. caveat emptor for all if u count elliot wave count yup we are not in wave 5. whether it will make a new high is up to the market. chances are it will make a new high since it took so long for them to store power for this rally. just buy sti warrents on dips withe spares (those u can afford to lose totally) and sit back. |
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KiLrOy
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30-Nov-2007 14:11
Yells: "I buy only what I can see." |
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Sit and wait? Sit and collect (dividend)! There were (or should I say are) two bears in the year of 2007. One in August and there other one being the recent one. Augustino bear had my portfolio profit shrinked by almost 70% at one stage. It really test one's guts and emotions. I kept my focus in posting trading techniques to remind myself who I am and why I am doing this. Also vividly remembered a wise saying by a seasoned investors - If you arent sure how or what to do, do nothing and go take a break (holiday). I didnt add any position since my DCA is done quarterly ( I need to review and research my DCA timing strategy to capitalise on weak market) however I did with the recent bear after the interim dividend payout of some counters. So there, its not only sit and wait, but some actions as well (*laff*). Because we are already fighting a one sided battle (not shorting stocks), might as well fight a 'LONG' long long battle in stocks with good commanders (companies) that wins battles (good financial report) each year. : ) Be a value investor lah (again lousy salesman act). |
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cashiertan
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30-Nov-2007 13:59
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i realise that low volume exist on the global equity for the recent rally. it means that the bbs are not getting in as much as before. like elf said, maybe becoz it is the last bull run, the last climb b4 a bigger correction. well, the stocks should bore well till at least till dec 11 for the rate cut. elf, the 3 out of 5 is not elliot wave, just that for a real recession to come, we must make at least 5 rallys and since 2003, we made only 3 rallys. the 5 rallys are based on historical count from 1 recession to the next. like 1987-1997. the 2001 tech meltdown kinda reset the count thus we have only 3 so far. if u see the nasdaq chart, it overtook DOW as the leading indicator for US economy. use it to see if us is going to recession soon. |
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elfinchilde
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30-Nov-2007 11:18
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hey pwong1, yeps, no hurry to make money. elf's got more than 30 years left, so what's the rush. :) kilroy advocates an excellent method really, for those unable to take the heat of trading. value investing, by proven record, has actually beaten most traders in terms of consistent returns y-o-y. just that, haha, it goes against most ppl's nature i guess, to sit and wait. haha. cheers! :) |
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elfinchilde
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30-Nov-2007 10:47
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yeps victorf, you're gooooood. :) keke. cashiertan, wld like your opinion on the 3 out of 5 bulls reading? by my count this IS the fifth one, but i'm still new to wave theory, so pls correct me if i'm wrong? using 10% dip from highest pt as the technical definition of a correction: (is this where we differed?) 1st wave was a long run from dec 04 to 12 May 06, high of 2665.99 reached. then corrected to low of 2277 on 16th june. 2nd run: to feb 23 this year. high of 3310 (3316 the next day): followed by sudden crash in two days. 2979 is the watermark, it dipped to 2931 briefly. 3rd run: jul 20, high 3688. then the aug 17 crash. that's cfm end of this bull. 4th run: aug 17 to oct 19, high of 3906. (we in fact dipped below the 3515 support to get to the 60 day support at 3,300). 5th run: now. following patterns, the runs are getting shorter and more volatile--indicative of end of bull phase--that was also how i had derived my estimate of early/mid jan as end of this current bull incidentally--which ties in with the capricorn effect macrotrend. do share yr thoughts and correct my misperceptions if any? thanks! :) |
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victorf
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30-Nov-2007 09:41
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market moves as predicted and in precision...good luck :) | |||||||||||||
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victorf
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30-Nov-2007 09:37
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still the same call...market will move higher high (though not in a straight line)....from 3300 plus to 3500 plus now since our call....good luck :)
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cashiertan
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29-Nov-2007 23:50
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distribution detedcted on alot of stocks, when they were sold down near closing. it seem the main benefits are those blue chips. Low volume too for such a climb, same for DOW, tomolo should see some correction if DOW cant close abv 200 sma |
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teeth53
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29-Nov-2007 23:35
Yells: "don't learn through life, learn to grow with life " |
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Two days advance...humm. Another new day for stocks to stumple. Tomorro Friday closing for STI (red)....  . Today closed Green
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Pwong1
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29-Nov-2007 23:10
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Hi Mani, Hope you read Elf's post clearly ......"it is wiser to stay out and wait for the bear of 08, and then all the leisure to cherry pick the blues at PROPER valuations. If one has the funds, it's the best time to build up a solid portfolio for years, rather than punting all the time. The Noble share you sold has already started its climb back up.... |
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