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Livermore
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01-Jan-2008 17:06
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Looks like from some report, oil price could surpass US$100 this year...... |
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teeth53
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01-Jan-2008 11:53
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Just my personnal opinion, 1st half of 2008 will see cautious, wild volatile prevail trading woes on a small scale that will follow wall st trading mode, (a fall over from 2007). While 2nd half will see China Olympic 2008 and US election going into full swing, giving a positive lift to the DOW and the whole world stocks trading systems. Meanwhile STI 1st half can be seen going to edge to higher ground before 2nd half arrive. 2nd half will be for STI to test new high. Quote...by Mkt Strategists By David Goldman, CNNMoney.com staff writer "Cohen believes that stocks could finish 2008 in the plus column as investors anticipate better news in the latter part of the year". "We believe that the worst time is right now. The worst numbers will be at the end of 2007 and in the first half 2008. We expect an improvement in the second half," she said. |
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01-Jan-2008 10:24
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2008 outlook: Fasten your seatbeltsMarket strategists expect a volatile year for stocks and that the housing market will swoon. Sound familiar?NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Wall Street's top forecasters have some good news and bad news for 2008. Many think stocks will head higher but that unemployment will rise and the overall economy will slow. In other words, 2008 is going to look an awful lot like 2007. Despite falling housing prices and the subprime mortgage meltdown igniting fears about a broader economic slowdown, stocks are still on track to finish higher in 2007. For 2008, experts said investors need to be prepared for more woes in the slumping housing market and a slight rise in unemployment. "2008 will be a sluggish year," Abby Joseph Cohen, Goldman Sachs' chief U.S. investment strategist, told CNNMoney.com. She said many investors are concerned about what could be weak earnings growth in 2008. "Portfolio managers sense that 2008 will be a very difficult year for corporate profits," she said. But Cohen believes that stocks could finish 2008 in the plus column as investors anticipate better news in the latter part of the year. "We believe that the worst time is right now. The worst numbers will be at the end of 2007 and in the first half 2008. We expect an improvement in the second half," she said. Cohen isn't the only strategist who feels this way. Research firm Thomson Financial pointed out in a recent report that Wall Street analysts expect profits for the S&P 500 to increase in just the single-digits in the first two quarters of 2008 but that overall earnings for the year will be up nearly 15 percent. With this in mind, Cohen expects the Dow Jones industrial average to end the new year around 14,750, a gain of more than 10 percent from current levels, and that the S&P 500 will close at 1,675, up nearly 14 percent. Analysts at Thomson Financial are predicting a more modest rise for the market, however. The firm believes the S&P 500 will end at 1,580, a gain of 7 percent. Still, how can stocks have a good year if so many market strategists are predicting a rough year for the economy? In a recent report, Cohen wrote that the market is relatively cheap when compared to previous periods of comparable inflation and that stocks are priced for the worst case scenario, i.e. a recession. But Cohen thinks the economy will not slip into a recession. And one big reason for her optimism is that she thinks the Federal Reserve is likely to keep lowering interest rates in order to make sure the economy doesn't grind to a halt. Investors like interest rate cuts since they tend to lead to more borrowing by consumers and businesses, which in turn helps to boost economic activity and corporate profits. "Recent speeches and policy actions suggest that the Federal Reserve is paying close attention...to the smooth functioning of markets and recession avoidance," Cohen wrote. The Fed cut interest rates three times in the second half of 2007, lowering the key federal funds rate from 5.25 percent in August to 4.25 percent by the end of December. Economists at Lehman Brothers wrote in a report that they expect the Fed to cut rates several more times in 2008, perhaps to as low as 3.25 percent. The Lehman economists suggested that the economy "may bend but not break" in the new year. But much of 2008 could be rough. Though the economy is expected to begin to rebound later in the year, economists believe that the slumping housing markets and credit crunch will continue throughout at least the first half of 2008. Standard and Poor's predicts that the housing market will not finally bottom until October. Home prices are expected to fall 11 percent over the course of 2008, according to Standard & Poor's. As the housing market continues to slump, economic growth is expected to slow in 2008. This year, gross domestic product, or GDP, was aided by a strong third quarter, and analysts believe that at 2007's end, the economy will have grown 2.2 percent from the close of the fourth quarter in 2006. At the end of 2008, however, Lehman Brothers predicts 1.8 percent overall growth, and Merrill Lynch believes that GDP growth in 2008 economy will be only 1.4 percent. Thomson Financial more optimistically expects GDP to grow between 2 percent and 2.5 percent over 2008. Many analysts point out that although the economy and housing market will struggle in the new year, this may not necessarily result in recession. But other economists warn that there is still a high risk of recession. "We are at the brink of a recession," Standard and Poor's senior economist Beth Ann Bovino told CNNMoney.com. "We are certainly concerned about the 2008 economy." Standard and Poor's thinks there is a 40 percent chance of a recession in 2008. And as the economy slides in 2008, unemployment is expected to increase as well. Standard & Poor's is predicting an unemployment rate of 5.2 percent by the end of 2008, up from the current rate of 4.7 percent. Goldman Sachs expects the unemployment rate to be between 5.5 percent and 5.8 percent. Nonetheless, Goldman Sachs' Cohen thinks consumer spending and confidence will pick up in the second half of 2008, despite the rise in unemployment. And analysts at Thomson Financial wrote that they also think the consumer will stay afloat. The firm is forecasting monthly same-store sales growth of about 2 percent to 5 percent throughout the year. So even though the financial headlines for 2008, particularly the ones about the housing market, may be as scary as the ones from 2007, many investors and consumers could do reasonably well. Just like in 2007. ![]() |
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Manikamaniho
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01-Jan-2008 08:47
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But always trust yourself most...
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jkbk007
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01-Jan-2008 05:52
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I trust Singapore govt a lot more than what those analyst says. So frequently I see facts being manipulated/ignored/hidden by analyst. My thoughts are that those general comment from the so called oil analyst are not expert. Those comments are more like guessing to me and are therefore news of little value. |
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cashiertan
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01-Jan-2008 02:54
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Livermore, Dun trust what spore govt tells u. i dun believe 7.5% is the actual growth. i believe is much lesser .. |
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Livermore
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01-Jan-2008 01:55
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Here's a bit of trivia: According to Stock Trader's Almanac 2008, the Standard and Poor's 500 stock index has risen in the final 7 months of every US Presidential Election year since 1950 except one |
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Livermore
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01-Jan-2008 01:46
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Happy new year to you, Mani and to all as well! For oil price, actually I hoping for it to fall. Whether oil price is at US$60 or US$90, oil and oil related companies are making a lot of money. Almost the whole world is integrated into the market economy.One important thing that the world needs for the global economy to continue growing is PEACE in the world. |
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31-Dec-2007 20:38
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Oil investing: 2007 a tough act to follow It was a banner year for energy - the sector was up 30% and crude jumped 60%. But don't count on a repeat performance in '08. December 31 2007: 4:03 AM EST Crude prices and oil company stocks surged in 2007. Can they keep the momentum going next year? Oil investing: 2007 a tough act to follow Oil futures drive gas back above $3 Gasoline prices fall 3 cents - survey Iran, Malaysia sign $16B gas deal NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- It's been a phenomenal time to invest in oil, but analysts say the huge gains of the last year are most likely a thing of the past. 2007 was truly a banner year for the industry. The big integrated oil companies - ones that produce and refine crude - saw stock gains in the 30 percent range. Crude itself rose nearly 60 percent. The biggest winners were the oil production companies, some of which saw their stock prices double. Overall, the AMEX oil and gas index rose about 30 percent in '07, trouncing the near-stagnant S&P 500. But most analysts say 2008 is unlikely to mimic the staggering returns of the last year. And on the heels of such a runup, some say the sector is simply overvalued. Oil company stocks tend to rise and fall with the price of crude, so any prediction on stock prices needs to start with a look at the underlying commodity. Although U.S. crude is trading near $100 a barrel, 2007 was a very volatile year. Prices began the year by dipping below $50 in January, spiking above $75 in July, then pulling back to the high $60s by the end of August before embarking on its recent record run. For the year, the average price for crude was around $72. Most analysts have bumped up their estimate for 2008 to around $80 to $85 a barrel from the low $70s, reflecting a view that oil prices will rise but not by another 60 percent, like they did in 2007. "I don't think too many people are talking about $150 oil, unless they're also stocking up on canned goods and ammunition," said Jeff Tjornehoj, a research analyst at the data and research firm Lipper. John Kilduff, an energy analyst at MF Global in New York, said he expects crude prices to top $100 a barrel in the first quarter - perhaps peaking around $110 - then pull back to maybe $70 as the economy slows and speculative money retreats. Still, he says investors are still pricing oil company stock as if oil costs $50 a barrel and sees room for those stocks to go up. Energy and the presidential race Companies that produce oil - as opposed to refining it - have been the stars of the sector in 2007. Frontier (FTO, Fortune 500) stock is up 45 percent, Occidental (OXY, Fortune 500) is up 60 percent, and Hess (HES, Fortune 500) has surged a staggering 105 percent. But the stock of those companies is most directly tied to the price of crude, and with crude unlikely to post another 60 percent runup, its doubtful those stocks will see similar gains. For the integrated companies - those that produce and refine oil - earnings growth for 2008 may be stronger than in 2007. In the third quarter companies like Exxon Mobil (XOM, Fortune 500), BP (BP) and Chevron (CVX, Fortune 500) saw profits slip as oil prices rose much faster than gasoline prices and eroded the profit margin for refining. When these companies report their 2007 earnings in January they will struggle to beat their 2006 results. As a result, stocks for the integrated companies lagged the producers, although they still posted healthy - 30 percent - growth for the year. But gasoline prices have rebounded, and Reuters estimates predict a 9 percent growth in energy company earnings in 2008. That's lower than the 15.7 percent growth that it predicts for the S&P 500, but still a solid performance. "It's still a good place for investors to hide out an make money in 2008," said Kilduff. But others think the sector is played out. "Fundamentally, it's expensive," said Jack Ablin, chief investment officer at Harris Private Bank in Chicago. "A lot of investors are eager to get into energy, and it's pushed the values to unattractive levels." Ablin said stocks of energy companies are expensive by a number of metrics. Their price-to-book value - the value of all their outstanding stock compared to book value of their underlying assets - is about 5 percent higher than the S&P average. Normally, energy companies have a price-to-book value about 15 percent lower, said Ablin. He said he sees a similar pattern with other measures like price to cash flow and price to sales. "For people holding [energy stocks], we recommend they continue holding them," said Ablin. "But we'd encourage buyers to wait on the sidelines until the values come back down to earth." Other analysts don't see the sector as expensive, and point to the long-term trend in crude prices - strong demand and limited supply - that pushes prices higher and higher. "It's high, but it's high in anticipation of higher prices," said Hugh Johnson, chairman of asset management company Johnson Illington Advisors. "Earnings prospects in 2008 are much brighter than they are for many other sectors." For those looking for a deal in energy, one analyst suggested natural gas. While companies like Chesapeake (CHK, Fortune 500), EOG Resources (EOG) and XTO Energy (XTO, Fortune 500) have had an impressive year - their stocks are up between 30 percent and 40 percent for the year - natural gas prices are likely to rise faster than oil prices in 2008, said Neal Dingmann, an energy analyst with the New York-based energy investment boutique Dahlman Rose & Co. Dingmann said oil prices are more than 13 times higher than natural gas prices. The usual ratio is about 6 times higher, he said. "Either oil is too high or natural gas is too low, but they won't continue at that level for very long," he said. The spread will encourage more use of natural gas, which should drive up prices and stock values. "I don't see any way oil can go up another 60 percent," said Dingmann. "But could natural gas go up [from about $7 per 1,000 cubic feet] to $9 or $10, absolutely. That's where I think the play is." |
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Manikamaniho
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31-Dec-2007 20:31
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Livermore... :) |
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Livermore
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31-Dec-2007 20:11
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Yes, now with some of the China stocks being beaten down, it would be a good time to look at them. Some of them have tremendous long term potential. If one reads some of the company result and future plans carefully where they state their future production capacity, one can easily tell 2008 will be a better year for some of these companies. By 2020, China could be the second largest economy in the world and nothing is going to stop them.China's economy will be supported by strong domestic demand in a slowing global economy. The cash is in Asia and the Middle East countries. Singapore achieved 7.5% growth for this year. This kind of growth rate is normally associated with a developing economy and not a developed one. That is something that should really be appreciated and it was achieved despite a slowing US economy. |
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Manikamaniho
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31-Dec-2007 19:48
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China plays may in vogue in 2008... :) |
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Livermore
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31-Dec-2007 19:11
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We begin a new year soon. It would be good if one finds stocks with long term potential. Whether you just like to hold or trade, it is easier for me to do it with the same long term potential stocks. Well don't get too clouded by the US subprime mortgage issue but focus on what you are investing. Frankly US economy has been slowing for the whole of this year and yet some US November economic data was good. It tells something. 3M forecasted on Dec 12 that its earnings per share in 2008 would rise by 10%, thanks in part to emerging markets. You could get totally confused trying to jump up and down together with the market. However market timing is crucial. All the best for 2008! |
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ozone2002
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31-Dec-2007 13:16
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the power of window dressing...pushed up STI up 1.06% |
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jkbk007
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31-Dec-2007 12:20
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What is your outlook on inflation for 2008? Stagflation, hyperinflation or deflation? Maybe you get to see all 3 in 2008? |
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newmoon
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31-Dec-2007 12:09
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Micro outlook reasonable but macro outlook is dismal. Expect stagflation next year. Good Luck. |
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jennlsk
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31-Dec-2007 09:35
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Singapore shares open lower on lack of institutional interest (2007-12-31 01:15:00) |
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Henry$$$
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31-Dec-2007 00:28
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I believe 2008 market is bullish and STI may surge to new high. Details pls visit my blog at http://www.freewebs.com/henryhts. |
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Manikamaniko.
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30-Dec-2007 22:54
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That's why Forex is better... It's round the clock trading, though not on weekends... ![]() |
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scotty
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30-Dec-2007 22:49
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Tomorrow half day market only. |
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