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STI to cross 3000 boosted by long-term investors
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AK_Francis
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25-Jul-2008 15:12
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Newton's law applies loh. Jangan tention, just relax, as what sifus hint. turtle will win the race, eventually. wishing all to hv a good long weekends. cheers. | ||||
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trader88.sg
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25-Jul-2008 14:31
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Hi, Sister elfinchilde, Oh, you are a sister. That explains why you write with a soft tone, showing so much concern for the newbies. I closed all my short positions in the money ![]() |
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SupremeA
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25-Jul-2008 14:25
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Maybe they got shell companies overseas so they lose money on purpose so those companies can earn
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tanglinboy
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25-Jul-2008 14:17
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See this link. These are still rumours lah... nothing concrete has been established. http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSSGC00214820080725 |
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elfinchilde
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25-Jul-2008 14:17
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why are they selling when Berkshire Hathaway is buying!! ![]() time to buy, they sell; time to sell, they buy. At least for us, we're small fries, we're not trained in finance, we're (most of us) not educated overseas in elite institutions. It's fine if we make mistakes since we don't have privileged information. but them!!! ![]() |
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SupremeA
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25-Jul-2008 13:55
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yes can't stand them. Just admit they are wrong la, if they keep being this opaque they are just inviting speculation of how badly they did.
And I agree with elf. Transaction costs are a killer
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CWQuah
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25-Jul-2008 13:55
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http://www.mffais.com/mer.html. Check it out. Hehe.
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elfinchilde
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25-Jul-2008 13:54
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CMI, ozone. TA shows that the probability is a high chance of getting sued to bankruptcy. I don't enter losing trades. ![]() ![]() |
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ozone2002
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25-Jul-2008 13:50
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I don't see any of this ML sale in the S'pore newspaper..supression of news!.. Elf maybe next election u join opposition we vote for u.. keke |
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elfinchilde
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25-Jul-2008 13:47
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'sister' is right. ![]() and i hope your shorts are doing well. ![]() ![]() altho on the plus side, they can take comfort that even a big "house" like Temasek went down 47%. ![]() nah, i don't necessarily think i'll be better than them: they're the trained ones, after all. if i were to try and apply, i don't think i'd even get called to the interview. degree not right and all that jazz. ![]() seriously though: if you're managing in millions and billions, making money is easier than for small fries, who are playing with ten Ks, or 100ks. Since with a portfolio of say, 500 million, 1% return pa, and you have 5 mil already. Plus, with that kind of funds, frankly, just go longterm, put on margin at 2x. You can freaking return 10-20% pa just by dividend yield alone. Completely no need to take additional risks at all. ![]() byebye, CPF. ![]() |
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SupremeA
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25-Jul-2008 13:44
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Trader, anyone without an outsized ego can run the fund better than The Tema ppl. Just but an ETF. Can't miss as much as them. Don't even need to rent their offices | ||||
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trader88.sg
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25-Jul-2008 13:28
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Hi, elfinchilde I remember I called you brother before but I read somewhere in this forum that someone actually called you sister. Which is correct? Referring to the error of judgment by Temasek, I seriously think you can be a much much better fund manager for them than any of those PSC scholars in Temasek. ![]() |
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elfinchilde
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25-Jul-2008 13:14
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regarding the Temasek investment: of course. Since when have they ever admitted their mistakes? It's always, "it's an error in judgment", "it's an honest mistake", "we'll be stronger" and "let's move on." "Of four above statements, pick two to show your sincere regret to the public." It believes these companies will survive the crisis and emerge stronger. Some experts believe that Temasek has made an error of judgment. How thoroughly typical. And as usual, they'll trot out their figures of 25% growth p.a. (i'm beginning to think most of it is our CPF and country reserve: ie, from the people.), etcetc. Meanwhile they keep their cushy jobs, and the regular people, the small ones who can't afford even a 'peanut', have to work harder since it's our money they're losing. |
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newmoon
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25-Jul-2008 11:55
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Daily reckoning and Martin Armstrong Revisited; http;//dailyreckoning.com / http;//www.nowandfutures.com/buscycle.htm Hang on to your jobs if you still have one. |
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AK_Francis
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25-Jul-2008 11:50
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chiat lat liao, likely next would be Citi and Barclays loh. next, BIC also holding substantial amount of Citi and UBS shares. AK retirement acct in CPF really chiat chow loh. as sefu said, its correct. may consider to withdraw half of my retirement acct amount to do my own investment. further and good GST rebate?? tua pek kong only loh. |
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ozone2002
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25-Jul-2008 11:19
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It's gonna get WORSE!!!..whack the put warrants everytime the markets rally.. :) i love bear rallies :):):) short short short Economy Recession fears Despite a built-up cushion, global woes hit Singapore’s exports in a big way - with worse to come. Comment. Seah Chiang Nee Jul 19, 2008 Singapore is hitting a really bad patch and no one can say how bad - or how long - things will fall before the sun shines again. Singapore’s selling point for decades, its strong economy – measured by GDP and reserves growth – is now looking a little fray as the global waves hit its our shores. Bugged by high oil and food prices all around them, middle-class and poor Singaporeans are becoming more and more unhappy as their quality drops. Last week there was is a brief respite to the oil crisis as prices fell from a high of $147 to $130 a barrel, but it’s too early to pronounce it is over. Meanwhile, the value of its foreign investments has dropped by US$15-US$20b - so far, led by declines in US and European banks. This is could be the worst performance in history for both Temasek and the Government Investment Corporation (GIC), despite assurances that they are long-term (30 years) investments. At home, the government's actions against its political opponents and the way some were carried out in and outside the court have brought heat from some people at home and abroad. Charges of ‘inept’ leadership and policies that worsen inflation are sounding out almost daily, loosening the bonds that existed between the governed and the governing. Amidst all these, the centerpiece - the economy - on which the government uses to justify its crackdowns and controls, is beginning to show trouble as a result of the global woes. (Leaders have often said that as long as the economy is strong, all other problems can be solved.) In the latest report, Singapore’s non-oil domestic exports in June fell 10.5% to $12.8b, far worse than the 2.8% drop economists had been predicting. It was due to sharp declines in shipments to key markets such as the United States, Europe and China. The rate of decline was the same as the previous month. Seven of its 10 major markets registered drops in shipments, led by the 24% fall in exports to the USA, while exports to Europe declined 16% and were down 12% to China. That spells trouble ahead. Economists are predicting more gloom in the immediate future - even a possible technical recession. Song Seng Wun, regional economist at CIMB-GK Research said "We should be prepared for even more ugly export numbers in the coming months." The city's gross domestic product (GDP) grew at a much slower annual pace of 1.9% percent in the second quarter from 6.9%. According to the Straits Times, a senior executive from the Government of Singapore Investment Corporation (GIC) said that the global downturn will last longer than the tech bubble burst eight years ago. Mr. Ng Kok Song told a gathering of top private bankers and senior fund managers that policy-makers here face more uncertainties, including inflation and the US presidential race. Any recession, even a technical one, could affect jobs and business in Singapore. Citizens are worried about mass retrenchment, low salaries and low bonuses. Meanwhile, inflation continues at record high. |
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jasonfaxingliu
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25-Jul-2008 10:06
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Are they not engaging professional to deal with it? If so, how professional are they?? I always think if I have a million in cash, I'd be a good trader that's far from billions.. | ||||
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ozone2002
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25-Jul-2008 10:00
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ozone2002
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25-Jul-2008 09:09
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wham bam thank you mam!!! :)
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trader88.sg
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25-Jul-2008 08:43
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Business Times - 25 Jul 2008 US SEC looks to expand short rule to entire market WASHINGTON - The top United States securities regulator remains steadfast in a plan to broaden an emergency rule to curb abusive short selling despite opposition from the hedge fund industry and other short sellers. US Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Christopher Cox told lawmakers on Thursday the agency would soon propose expanding the rule covering the shares of 19 major financial firms to the entire market. 'We have immediately pivoted to a broader rule making ... so we can extend this kind of procedural protection to the entire market,' SEC Chairman Christopher Cox told a House Financial Services Committee hearing. 'I think very soon we will be in a position to issue a proposal on that,' he said. The SEC could consider its next steps at the end of July or beginning of August. The SEC is also considering other remedies to short selling abuses, such as requiring the reporting of substantial short positions, Mr Cox told reporters after the hearing. Britain's financial watchdog, the Financial Services Authority, has also unveiled plans to deal with short sellers and introduced rules in June that would force investors to reveal significant short positions in companies selling new shares. Mr Cox said the public disclosure of significant short interests could be similar to, but not the same as, the SEC's current disclosure requirements for long positions. 'The concern on the short side is related in part to our ability to conduct enforcement,' he said. Mr Cox said it would be 'premature to provide specific contours of what reporting would look like' for short positions. The temporary rule requires investors to borrow stock before executing a short sale in 17 major Wall Street firms such as Citigroup and Lehman Brothers as well as mortgage finance giants Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. The emergency rule, which started on Monday, can only last a total of 30 days but the American Bankers Association and former SEC officials have been urging the investor protection agency to extend and expand the rule. Alabama Representative Spencer Bachus, the top Republican on the House Financial Services panel, has sent a letter to Mr Cox urging him to expand the order to include financial firms with a market capitalisation of at least US$750 million or those that have at least a 5 per cent short interest. Groups representing short sellers have urged the SEC not to extend the emergency order past July 29, nor beyond the current list of companies. The SEC has said it is not looking to outlaw short selling, a legitimate form of investing that can keep stocks from becoming overvalued. Short sellers arrange to borrow shares and sell them in hopes of making a profit when the price drops. When an investor does not pre-borrow the shares before shorting the stock, it's called naked short selling, which is illegal if done intentionally. The SEC's emergency rule has exempted market makers from the pre-borrow requirement so they can continue to facilitate trading in certain stocks. But market makers are still required to deliver securities by the settlement date. At the hearing, lawmakers asked Mr Cox why the agency did not reinstate the so-called tick-test rule on short sales, which was implemented after the 1929 stock market crash. Mr Cox reiterated that studies have shown that the tick test is no longer effective. In June 2007, the SEC repealed the rule, which only allowed short sales when the last sale price was higher than the previous price. Mr Cox said the idea of using a price test or some sort of circuit breaker to regulate manipulative short selling is a 'subject currently under consideration by the commission staff' |
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