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moneytalk.sg
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26-Jan-2009 23:10
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Sitting on a gap support now. Blogging at moneytalk.sg on the stock market, ETF and anything to do with money. |
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Livermore
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25-Jan-2009 19:22
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Be a little more "street wise" when it comes to investing. | ||||
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winsontkl
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25-Jan-2009 12:42
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Very true ...but still many BB will be in the game as you can see.....most would not want to miss on the run up and their result is based on relative to index....
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ticklish8
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25-Jan-2009 09:24
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Something interesting from Jeremy Grantham.... http://www.gmo.com/websitecontent/JGLetter_4Q08.pdf |
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jeremyow
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25-Jan-2009 01:15
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To allow a profitable gain over a lifetime.....one needs to have a disciplined approach to investing.....Buy more during pessimistic periods.....Avoid temptation of buying during optimistic periods when prices are escalating........When buying at suitable low prices, buy a lot. In this way, one avoid averaging up too much. But, when prices are depressed, one will be able to catch a good bargain. There is no incentive for hyperactivity in the stock market...........Always chase lower prices.......and avoid the temptation of hope and greed when in high prices......One only need to make a few good major investment decisions over a lifetime to be profitable. | ||||
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jeremyow
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25-Jan-2009 00:58
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Hee......stock prices rise and drop......If one has capital to buy more shares of a certain company that is good, and buys during low prices and keep on increasing one's position in the company through the years, then the amount of dividends collected will also increase through the years. At the same time, one also increases one's position in the invested company. Keep on buying sensibly into a good company. One will see his total dividends grow through the years. Then, reinvest the dividends to buy even more shares and increase the total dividends collected. Keep repeating this many times over a lifetime. One's position in a company will increase substantialy over a long period. In the end, let's say I have accumulated 100 lots of DBS shares over my lifetime, imagine the total dividends I will collect every year. Price swings doesn't interest me. They are there to allow me to buy more at low prices when prices are depressed. Just collecting the enormous dividends alone every year will be good enough for me. Even if the market remains depressed for a long time, I can still use my collected dividends to do compounding and buy more shares at a low price in a company. Then, if I decide not to do this compounding anymore and to cash out on my position, I can sell out all my shares at a good price to lock in a one time substantial profit (since we are talking about not just selling 10 lots but 100 lots here accumulated over a lifetime). The total dividends collected through a lifetime plus a one time capital gain over a large number of shares is enough to attract me on holding on to my shares through a lifetime.
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winsontkl
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25-Jan-2009 00:30
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Blue chips as brought down to by sentiments.... | ||||
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Livermore
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24-Jan-2009 13:00
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Actually I normally don't like to buy on down day but if I do only minimal lots. I like to see reversal. 1600 may be a bit too optimistic.Well let's see. For this year reporting season in US and in Singapore, we are likely to see decrease in profit in all 4 quarters for many companies. Maybe some might say the low price has already factored all that in. I am not sure about that but earning reports could depress the market further this year. Yes, I am looking more at former blue chips as they have more room to come down than the pennies. Some pennies don't have much "meat" to come down. Like one person in forum said so, buying a "good dividend stock" works in a bull market.It does not work in a bear market.
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trader88.sg
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24-Jan-2009 12:42
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If the economies worldwide are apparently deteriorating, dividends payout will be lower going forward, which will in turn affect the stock prices. | ||||
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cheongwee
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24-Jan-2009 02:15
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I think i do what u have been doing...buying on down day..but i go after blues chips only. Thanks..
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cheongwee
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24-Jan-2009 02:11
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Thanks Livemore,...i think 1600 is the bottom of this bear, but look like we are going to hit this 1600 once again...i think this is a goodbye kiss before a 20% rally, like i read ... i believe a rally first half 09.. Say something for us to share...thanks for sharing.
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senecus
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24-Jan-2009 02:01
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Solid
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Livermore
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24-Jan-2009 02:00
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At the end of the day it is not whether you are buying a good dividend stock, collecting dividends etc., it is still is how fast you reocover your loss and what is your net profit/loss. That is reality | ||||
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Livermore
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24-Jan-2009 01:56
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I am not even considering doing DCA just yet. It does not make sense to do DCA from STI at 2500 all the way to now. | ||||
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Livermore
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24-Jan-2009 01:52
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Hi Cheongwee, If you draw the trend line during the last bull run, you can see the STI hit the upper trend line at near 3900 and then came down. Similarly this time round, I still believe it is in the chart to possibly predicting the bottom. The market would already have recovered at a time when you still receive bad news i.e about 6 months before economy recover
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senecus
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24-Jan-2009 01:50
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Dont agree with jeremy on his 10% consistent returns...if one has locked on to a counter on a regular basis, eg DBS, he would have his capital locked at a value of at least $20...the returns on the dividends will not be able to compensate for the capital loss...not to mention consistent 10% returns. Another person realized his loss when the price hits his low limit before CD...he will not get his dividends as he has no shares...in this event...the 10% consistent returns is longer valid. Another person punts before CD...sell after XD...he earns alot when market is on uptrend...but when market downtrends...the price of counter has to factor in the dividend value...the loss is double...the 10% consistency will trend on the risk of -10% consistent returns. | ||||
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lookcc
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24-Jan-2009 00:32
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solid.
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lookcc
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24-Jan-2009 00:30
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very truthful, non-scheming n unbias advisory post.
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jeremyow
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24-Jan-2009 00:25
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Thanks......I don't consider myself smart. I thrive on a strict disciplined approach to investing and will not waver no matter what the market tells me. The stocks market is going to recover anyway. It's just a matter of time. I am not worried about falling prices. I invest only money that I will not touch for the rest of my life. And when I buy into a stock, it must be one that will convince me to hold it for a lifetime and the stock must be so good that it can give me at least 10% consistent returns through my life-time. I will continue to monitor my selected stocks and will increase my positions in them throught the years and as long they remain profitable through the years, I will be able to reach my financial target slowly but surely. I have started to taste a little bit of how compounding works. My total dividends recieved from my investments are growing so far. I will continue to do reinvesting of my dividends and regular investing into my selected stocks to accelerate the compounding of returns...... | ||||
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lookcc
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24-Jan-2009 00:17
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jeremyow is not only a genuine investor but is also a real smart one. | ||||
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