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cheongwee
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01-Sep-2009 17:09
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i thk maybe bad news over at Euro..the data got to be fine..for tonite..anyone hear anything?? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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01-Sep-2009 16:58
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if bleed too much..tmr STI will bleed also....right?
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AK_Francis
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01-Sep-2009 16:53
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Chinese wise saying again, " Living in d kangfu's society, u can't do what u want". DJ in red now instead of green in d am, EU also follow suit, sea of red liao. STI kee jerking loh. Hope DJ dun bleed too much, fine alrdy. Cheers.
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erictkw
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01-Sep-2009 16:44
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Going down? Turning red soon? ![]() |
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AK_Francis
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01-Sep-2009 16:27
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Ha ha, AK could hv shifted away to Bkt Panjang new flat in 2000 as well. Then I forgo d offer despite after paying d 1.5k deposit, with good reasons.
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erictkw
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01-Sep-2009 16:03
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DJ MARKET TALK: STI +0.9%; Penny, Tech Shares Outperforming 0658 GMT [Dow Jones] Singapore stocks holding steady in post-lunch trade, although further gains appear limited with no catalyst in sight. STI +0.9% at 2,616.81, may face resistance at last week's highest close of 2642. Overall gainers still outnumbering decliners by more than 2 to 1. Dealer at foreign brokerage expects any gains in coming sessions to be modest; "what's the hurry to rush into the market, unless you're in trading mode? With the earnings reporting season already over and September traditionally being a weak month, you can slowly accumulate." Penny shares, tech plays currently best performers in overall market - FTSE ST Fledgling Index +3.1%, FTSE ST Technology Index +3.1%. (FKH) |
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ozone2002
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01-Sep-2009 14:58
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ditto..sell on rallies
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cheongwee
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01-Sep-2009 14:49
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tonite..you guess??...gd or lousy.??...with GDP fr -6% tp -1%......if it is lousy, i will be real surprise...it it going to beat expectation again.. the other 2 border line or aslightly below also no effect...more important is the manufacturing index... look like another proftable day tomolo...
Tuesday: The Institute for Supply Management releases its August manufacturing index shortly after the start of trading. ISM manufacturing is expected to have risen to 50.2 from 48.9 in July, pushing the closely-watched report above the key level that indicates expansion. Construction spending is expected to have fallen 0.2% in July after rising 0.3% in June, according to economists' forecasts. The Commerce Department report is due shortly after the start of trading. August truck and auto sales are also due in the afternoon. |
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cheongwee
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01-Sep-2009 14:45
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answer your post first before i post data for tonite...i used to stay at Phoenix Garden, but moved 5 yrs ago...i know there very well...gd luck to u.. and hope you buy like i did...
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01-Sep-2009 14:33
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China shares stabilize on PMI data, Aussie firm Reuters - 2 hours 53 minutes ago By Susan Fenton HONG KONG - Chinese shares stabilized on Tuesday after Monday's rout, helped by upbeat economic data, while the Aussie dollar firmed on expectations the central bank could shift to a tightening bias later in the day. Shares in Shanghai <.SSEC> edged up 0.1 percent after plunging nearly 7 percent in the previous session -- their worst one-day loss since mid-2008 -- on persistent fears the government is reining in bank lending to head off potential asset bubbles. Stocks elsewhere in Asia posted modest gains, with investors keeping a wary eye on Chinese markets. Despite the gloom hanging over its share market, data showed China's economy maintained its upward momentum in August, with two purchasing managers' indexes rising to their highest levels in 16 months. "China's equity market has taken a battering in the last few weeks, but the economic data suggests that the recovery remains on track," said Brian Jackson, an economist at Royal Bank of Canada in Hong Kong. Commodities markets, however, remained nervous about the strength of Chinese demand and London copper slid more than 3 percent after a holiday on Monday. U.S. crude futures hovered around $70 a barrel after sliding almost 4 percent on Monday on fears that Chinese lending curbs would cool its economic recovery and keep a lid on energy demand. Currency markets were more bullish, notably on the Australian dollar, which strengthened on expectations the Reserve Bank of Australia will shift to a tightening bias at a meeting on Tuesday. The policy decision will be announced at 0430 GMT. The central bank was expected to keep interest rates at a record low 3 percent but optimism about the economic outlook was reinforced by news that an Australian manufacturing index had reached a 17-month high in August. The Australian dollar was firm at $0.8436, just below last month's 11-month peak at $0.8479. In New York, the Dow Jones industrial average <.DJI> fell 0.5 percent as the Chinese equity sell-off raised concerns about the strength of the global economy and fueled fears that investors were pulling out of riskier assets in general. Those concerns were underpinned on Tuesday by a sharper-than-expected 20.6 percent drop in South Korean exports in August, extending double-digit annual declines to a 10th straight month. However, equity investors took the data in their stride, pushing up shares of Korean banks as well as automakers Hyundai Motor <005380.KS> and Kia Motors <000270.KS> on the view that broader recent data suggests the economic environment is still improving. Japan's Nikkei <.N225> rose 0.5 percent by late morning, with investors keeping a close eye on Chinese markets. The MSCI index of Asia Pacific stocks traded outside Japan <.MIAPJ0000PUS> also rose 0.5 percent. The index, like other major global benchmarks, has sputtered in recent weeks on fears that a six-month equity rally has run too far ahead of economic fundamentals, but it is still up nearly 50 percent so far this year. South Korea's main index <.KS11> rose 0.8 percent, led by a 4 percent jump in Hyundai and a near 2 percent gains in Kia shares. The yen remained close to 7-week highs reached on Monday in the wake of the Democratic Party's landslide election victory. Its strength put pressure on shares of Japanese exporters while falling commodity prices depressed shares of Japanese trading houses including the biggest, Mitsubishi Corp <8058.T>, which lost 1.6 percent. The euro was barely changed on the day at 133.36 yen and $1.4334. |
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DnApeh
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01-Sep-2009 13:34
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ozone2002
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01-Sep-2009 13:33
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Goldman Sachs Wrong on Economic Recovery, Macro Hedge Funds Say By Cristina Alesci Sept. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Paul Tudor Jones, the billionaire hedge-fund manager who outperformed peers last year, is wagering that Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley got it wrong in declaring the start of an economic recovery. Jones’s Tudor Investment Corp., Clarium Capital Management LLC and Horseman Capital Management Ltd. are taking a bearish stand as U.S. stock and bond prices rise, saying that record government spending may be forestalling another slowdown and market selloff. The firms oversee a combined $15 billion in so- called macro funds, which seek to profit from economic trends by trading stocks, bonds, currencies and commodities. “If we have a recovery at all, it isn’t sustainable,” Kevin Harrington, managing director at Clarium, said in an interview at the firm’s New York offices. “This is more likely a ski-jump recession, with short-term stimulus creating a bump that will ultimately lead to a more precipitous decline later.” Equity and credit markets have rallied on hopes that government intervention is pulling the U.S. out of the deepest economic slump since the Great Depression. The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index jumped 51 percent from its 12-year low in March through yesterday. The economy will expand at an annualized rate of 2 percent or more in four straight quarters through June 2010, the first such streak in more than four years, according to the median estimate of at least 53 forecasters in a Bloomberg survey. Tudor, the Greenwich, Connecticut-based firm started by Jones in the early 1980s, told clients in an Aug. 3 letter that the stock market’s climb was a “bear-market rally.” Weak growth in household income was among the reasons to be dubious about the rebound’s chances of survival, Tudor said. Yields Drop Yields on corporate bonds relative to U.S. Treasury benchmarks have sunk to levels unseen since before the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. in September, a positive sign for credit markets. Spreads on junk bonds fell in July to within 10 percentage points of Treasuries, lifting them out of the distressed category for the first time in almost a year. “We think the recession is ending right now,” Abby Joseph Cohen, senior investment strategist at Goldman Sachs, said in a Bloomberg Radio interview Aug. 17. The New York-based bank forecasts 2 percent growth in U.S. gross domestic product in 2010. Economists at New York-based Morgan Stanley in the past month have incrementally raised their GDP growth estimate for the current quarter to 4.8 percent annualized from 3.5 percent. President Barack Obama said a decline in July’s unemployment rate signaled “the worst may be behind us.” GDP shrank 6.4 percent in the first quarter and 1 percent in the second, after a 4 percent contraction in the second half of 2008. Different Jobless Rate A focus on misleading indicators is driving markets, macro managers say. Clarium watches the unemployment rate that accounts for discouraged job applicants and those working part-time because they can’t find full-time positions, Harrington said. July joblessness with those adjustments was 16 percent, according to the Department of Labor, rather than the more widely reported 9.4 percent. The housing data isn’t as rosy as some see it, Harrington said. As existing U.S. home sales rose 7.2 percent in July from the previous month, distressed deals including foreclosures accounted for 31 percent of transactions, according to the National Association of Realtors, a Chicago-based trade group. A report by the Mortgage Bankers Association, based in Washington, showed the share of home loans with one or more payments overdue rose to a seasonally adjusted 9.24 percent in the second quarter, an all-time high. Loaded for Bear Clarium, which oversees about $2 billion, is positioned for an equity bear market through investments in the U.S. dollar, Harrington said. Falling stock prices will strengthen the currency by forcing leveraged investors to sell equities to pay down the dollar-denominated debt they used to finance those trades, he said. High unemployment, lower wages and potential missteps by policymakers around the globe may stifle economic growth in 2010, Tudor said. The firm, which manages $10.8 billion, is at odds with 55 economists projecting an average of 2.3 percent growth next year, according to the Bloomberg survey. Macro managers’ pessimism is fueled in part by the U.S. government’s response to last year’s financial crisis, which they say fails to address the root cause. Banks still hold hard- to-sell assets on their balance sheets, the managers said. Subdued Credit Growth “Some critical initiatives have been cut short,” Tudor said. “As a result, toxic assets remain on balance sheets and credit growth is likely to be subdued for a long period.” Some firms, including Brevan Howard Asset Management LLP, see the recession at its end while dismissing the likelihood of robust growth. Brevan Howard, Europe’s largest hedge-fund manager with $24 billion in assets, told clients the U.S. could stumble when stimulus spending fades after the current quarter. The London- based firm, whose macro fund gained 20 percent last year, said consumer wealth erosion, scant bank lending and troubled world economies may result in a lackluster recovery. The U.S. Federal Reserve and other policy makers took unprecedented steps in the past year to stave off financial disaster. The Fed’s Board of Governors used emergency powers to rescue markets for commercial paper, housing bonds and asset- backed securities. The Fed’s balance sheet swelled to $2.08 trillion last week, more than doubling from a year earlier. Accounting Effect The Financial Accounting Standards Board voted in April to relax fair-value accounting rules. The change to mark-to-market accounting allowed companies to use “significant” judgment in gauging prices of some investments on their books, including mortgage-backed securities that plunged with the housing market. Banks are reporting better earnings because they haven’t been forced to account for their losses yet, Clarium’s Harrington said. “We haven’t fixed the problem,” he said. “We’ve just slowed down the official recognition of it.” Hedge funds rose in July for the fifth consecutive month, returning an average of 2.4 percent as stocks advanced, according to data compiled by Hedge Fund Research Inc. Bearish stances prevented some macro funds from joining the rally. The category lagged behind the industry average in July, rising 0.6 percent. Fund Performance Clarium, whose assets were mostly in fixed income, dropped 6 percent this year through June. Horseman’s fund slid 16.3 percent. Tudor’s BVI Global Fund Ltd. returned 11 percent. The funds held up in 2008 amid the industry’s record 19 percent loss. Horseman’s Global Fund USD, which focuses on stocks, made HSBC’s private bank list of top 20 performers by gaining 31 percent. Tudor’s and Clarium’s funds fell 4.5 percent. Macro managers are examining China for hints on how to place currency and commodities bets. Tudor said the country’s spending spree on raw materials inflated commodity prices and weakened the U.S. dollar. A government mandate forcing banks to make about $1 trillion in loans during this year’s first half is spurring short-term growth that may not last, according to Clarium. China’s banking regulator drafted capital requirements Aug. 19 that may lead banks to rein in lending. Horseman, with $4.1 billion under management out of London, was investing in long-term U.S. Treasury bonds. The firm believes interest rates will stay low for longer than the market expects, benefiting the asset class. “Despite every effort by government in North America and Europe to avoid deflation,” Horseman wrote, “the current numbers suggest they are losing the battle.”
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iPunter
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01-Sep-2009 12:51
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It is not unthinkable for a 3-6 month correction (big one) to take place... But we can only tell in 3-6 months time... hehehe... ![]() |
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des_khor
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01-Sep-2009 12:02
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Regret right ?? sold yesterday! this is true Bull... BUY and HOLD! |
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ozone2002
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01-Sep-2009 11:23
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01-Sep-2009 10:38
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monday drop 49.90 plz not 30+ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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ozone2002
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01-Sep-2009 10:38
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check out STI.. really sell into rallies.. |
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Sporeguy
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01-Sep-2009 10:31
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Above from SGX.com On Monday, STI was 2605, now 2607, how come +14.6 instead +2 ? |
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AK_Francis
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01-Sep-2009 10:11
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CheongW, ah yoh yoh, big wok ah, AK sincere apology, old liao, sensing capability degraded greatly. Next time, must use comrade, to be surely safe one. Richtan comrade, tks for the reminder. Anyway, AK is not she nor shim, he he, cheers. |
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01-Sep-2009 10:05
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Alemak, AK, Cheongwee has been mentioning "she", u should have said, "sis". All the while, I too tot cheongwee is a "he".
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