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20-Oct-2009 20:42     
 
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 Alert Admin 		pump: faster 2 achieve objective, but 'dump' is slower [so tat pxs drop gradually].....leave it 2 d BB.
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20-Oct-2009 17:20     
 
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 My mood is super positive one as DJ cheong 100 points then i feel something is not right when i post in the thread Singapore King of Kia.

So I go do my analysis on 20 shares la. I started to perform some critical calculations and charting trends based on the intra day trade and some important data.

 

I was shock and so sick that BB is doing that trick. sigh ... As i have posted UnitedEnvorTech will cheong 100% so i have to correct myself or else people will be in deep shit if they follow blindly.

Therefore the next post i say "guys the bb didnt pump as expected but they dump......"



iPunter      ( Date: 20-Oct-2009 17:10) Posted:



Gut feel depends on the nature of the subconsciousness...

Thus, it is different for every person in general... Smiley



 

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20-Oct-2009 16:34     
 
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 Alert Admin 		i cannot to be more specific :) i can only hint thats good enough. "When did you see I posted i wanted to bring out my short engine" ?

iPunter      ( Date: 20-Oct-2009 16:11) Posted:

You must be more explicit... 

What is your feeling based on? Or is it based on your gut feel?

Or psychic ability, etc?

Please enlighten us... Smiley



risktaker      ( Date: 20-Oct-2009 15:56) Posted:

i hope my warning save some guy
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20-Oct-2009 16:29     
 
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I think Bank shares will be affected --

Qatar holding is to sell more than 379 million share of  UK largest bank, Barclays Plc sending Barclays share falling 5.5%
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20-Oct-2009 16:11     
 
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You must be more explicit... 

What is your feeling based on? Or is it based on your gut feel?

Or psychic ability, etc?

Please enlighten us... Smiley



risktaker      ( Date: 20-Oct-2009 15:56) Posted:

i hope my warning save some guys

risktaker      ( Date: 20-Oct-2009 13:32) Posted:

something bad is about to happen .... sigh have to bring out my short engine.
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risktaker      ( Date: 20-Oct-2009 13:32) Posted:

something bad is about to happen .... sigh have to bring out my short engine.
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20-Oct-2009 15:16     
 
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STI look sickly n having constipation:

Index Last Change % High Low Time
STI 2716.57 4.87 0.18% 2728.98 2712.56 15:14:15
Hangseng 22359.01 158.55 0.71% 22451.62 22260.41 15:14:17
Nikkei225 10336.84 100.33 0.98% 10357.59 10307.59 15:00:38
SSE 3084.45 46.18 1.52% 3084.94 3053.64 15:00:25
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20-Oct-2009 15:09     
 
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 Alert Admin 		sti struggling so hard to move up while hsi sse all break out nicely..
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20-Oct-2009 12:58     
 
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IPunter,

Market up or down, you are always very cool. :)  Smiley 



iPunter      ( Date: 20-Oct-2009 08:50) Posted:



Price downtrends should not put your heart to the bottom at all... 

Because price downtrends are really great opportunities to make money too... hehehe... Smiley

 

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20-Oct-2009 08:32     
 
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Hi IPunter,

definite you are the playful type, even your nickname suggests that...

yes, I agree with your comments that it is suicidal for say pple who think stocks are easy to make heaps of money.  For me, the price downtrends are enough to plunge my heart to the bottom...

But today, we look forward to positive $ signs...$$$ :)Smiley



iPunter      ( Date: 20-Oct-2009 08:09) Posted:

As we can see, Sifu Livermore's comments are typically posted in good faith, and in a sincere way of his. And I for one personally admire and appreciate all his posts too. They are all philosophically and practically sound advice too. Thus, sifu can rest assured...

On the other hand my approach is more on the playful side, both to the market beast as well as to other 'beast handlers', which often is rather easily misunderstood as cynicism...

All said, I must say suicide due to playing shares, is hardly a 'playful' matter to most people... Smiley




534hjb1      ( Date: 19-Oct-2009 23:37) Posted:

Hey guys...we hear you... rest assured that your views are important & comes with much wisdom & experience. Do not be discouraged about being misunderstood, this forum allows for individuality and very interestingly offers many views and facets to a topic or thread. Again, must say that I don't have much experience in trading but learning something everyday, not sure what that is too... I cant imagine if everybody said the same things day in day out. It will not be interesting lor..so ya, say your peace. Thanks :
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As we can see, Sifu Livermore's comments are typically posted in good faith, and in a sincere way of his. And I for one personally admire and appreciate all his posts too. They are all philosophically and practically sound advice too. Thus, sifu can rest assured...

On the other hand my approach is more on the playful side, both to the market beast as well as to other 'beast handlers', which often is rather easily misunderstood as cynicism...

All said, I must say suicide due to playing shares, is hardly a 'playful' matter to most people... Smiley




534hjb1      ( Date: 19-Oct-2009 23:37) Posted:

Hey guys...we hear you... rest assured that your views are important & comes with much wisdom & experience. Do not be discouraged about being misunderstood, this forum allows for individuality and very interestingly offers many views and facets to a topic or thread. Again, must say that I don't have much experience in trading but learning something everyday, not sure what that is too... I cant imagine if everybody said the same things day in day out. It will not be interesting lor..so ya, say your peace. Thanks :)

Livermore      ( Date: 19-Oct-2009 23:15) Posted:

All I did was to say something which I feel is important in life, like in life you work hard but don't work too hard and I got "attacked". I am sharing something about life. There was one day I stayed back to work and my department manager said to me this. I cannot remember the first few words but his last words were "Don't work too hard.".

In my opinion, shares may not be suitable for everyone. But you never know unless you try. I am no expert. I try to learn from my mistakes and improve. We are sometimes afraid of trying something because of failure. That is understandable.

In life there is always success and failure. It is easy to avoid failure. All you need to do is "Don't Try" and you won't fail.

I find no point getting too personal in this forum. Thus I seldom post. People can get very emotional here. I am guilty of that at times.

 

 
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 Alert Admin 		Hey guys...we hear you... rest assured that your views are important & comes with much wisdom & experience. Do not be discouraged about being misunderstood, this forum allows for individuality and very interestingly offers many views and facets to a topic or thread. Again, must say that I don't have much experience in trading but learning something everyday, not sure what that is too... I cant imagine if everybody said the same things day in day out. It will not be interesting lor..so ya, say your peace. Thanks :)

Livermore      ( Date: 19-Oct-2009 23:15) Posted:

All I did was to say something which I feel is important in life, like in life you work hard but don't work too hard and I got "attacked". I am sharing something about life. There was one day I stayed back to work and my department manager said to me this. I cannot remember the first few words but his last words were "Don't work too hard.".

In my opinion, shares may not be suitable for everyone. But you never know unless you try. I am no expert. I try to learn from my mistakes and improve. We are sometimes afraid of trying something because of failure. That is understandable.

In life there is always success and failure. It is easy to avoid failure. All you need to do is "Don't Try" and you won't fail.

I find no point getting too personal in this forum. Thus I seldom post. People can get very emotional here. I am guilty of that at times.

 

 



iPunter      ( Date: 19-Oct-2009 22:05) Posted:

Forummers who themselves have gotten rich by by playing shares, will no doubt encourage newbies to make money playing shares and retire early.

But this does not give the newbies a complete picture to come to a wise conclusion at all... and this is dangerous... 

Share newbies will too readily buy into the idea of retiring early by playing the stock market (or forex, etc for that matter)...

For these veterans who retired early by playing shares, it would be better if they can be personally responsible to guide  the newbies...

Is this too much to ask without being personally attacked?... Smiley

 
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19-Oct-2009 23:37     
 
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 Alert Admin 		so d commentary [tat 2 save usa n d financial crisis] is now changed 2 d message [ is ride d trend].... wat a completely sharp turn n a vast difference between s commentary n message. 

samloh28      ( Date: 19-Oct-2009 23:15) Posted:



Over the radio about 3 weeks behind.  The message is ride the trend.  It does NOT mean NO risk.  But higher risks, higher gain.  Need to watch the trend VERY carefully and follow the world economic news like crazy, see for yourself and hear for yourself.  Example, China is confident to achieve 8% growth this year.  Wait for Benarke's comments end of this week.  Watch out for Apple, Coca-Cola, Pitzer, Microsoft 3rd quarter results this week.  Watch out for Singapore's 3rd quarter results for the blue chips and other hot stocks you favoured. Once you have the information, make a calculated risk to invest, NOT to speculate, we are not traders.  Stock market usually is approximately 6 mths ahead of the economy, i.e. it tends to rise 6 mths before the real economy rise.  So if we anticipate that economy will rise in March 2010, it means that stocks will cheong in Sep 2009...

From the statistics in past 30 years, DOW and STI likely to hit their highest again, before plunging.  It means that DOW hitting 14000 pts and STI hitting 4000 pts, which are 4000 pts from now and 1300 pts from now for DOW and STI respectively.
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Livermore... :)

 Sifu, relax... I am not referring to you... Smiley
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19-Oct-2009 23:15     
 
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All I did was to say something which I feel is important in life, like in life you work hard but don't work too hard and I got "attacked". I am sharing something about life. There was one day I stayed back to work and my department manager said to me this. I cannot remember the first few words but his last words were "Don't work too hard.".

In my opinion, shares may not be suitable for everyone. But you never know unless you try. I am no expert. I try to learn from my mistakes and improve. We are sometimes afraid of trying something because of failure. That is understandable.

In life there is always success and failure. It is easy to avoid failure. All you need to do is "Don't Try" and you won't fail.

I find no point getting too personal in this forum. Thus I seldom post. People can get very emotional here. I am guilty of that at times.

 

 



iPunter      ( Date: 19-Oct-2009 22:05) Posted:

Forummers who themselves have gotten rich by by playing shares, will no doubt encourage newbies to make money playing shares and retire early.

But this does not give the newbies a complete picture to come to a wise conclusion at all... and this is dangerous... 

Share newbies will too readily buy into the idea of retiring early by playing the stock market (or forex, etc for that matter)...

For these veterans who retired early by playing shares, it would be better if they can be personally responsible to guide  the newbies...

Is this too much to ask without being personally attacked?... Smiley

 




iPunter      ( Date: 19-Oct-2009 16:43) Posted:

Having a job till 80+ is still much, much better than having committed suicide while still young through losing heavily in the stock market ! ...

And many have died... Smiley
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Over the radio about 3 weeks behind.  The message is ride the trend.  It does NOT mean NO risk.  But higher risks, higher gain.  Need to watch the trend VERY carefully and follow the world economic news like crazy, see for yourself and hear for yourself.  Example, China is confident to achieve 8% growth this year.  Wait for Benarke's comments end of this week.  Watch out for Apple, Coca-Cola, Pitzer, Microsoft 3rd quarter results this week.  Watch out for Singapore's 3rd quarter results for the blue chips and other hot stocks you favoured. Once you have the information, make a calculated risk to invest, NOT to speculate, we are not traders.  Stock market usually is approximately 6 mths ahead of the economy, i.e. it tends to rise 6 mths before the real economy rise.  So if we anticipate that economy will rise in March 2010, it means that stocks will cheong in Sep 2009...

From the statistics in past 30 years, DOW and STI likely to hit their highest again, before plunging.  It means that DOW hitting 14000 pts and STI hitting 4000 pts, which are 4000 pts from now and 1300 pts from now for DOW and STI respectively.
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19-Oct-2009 23:13     
 
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who needs 2 work then????...not a single adult....so, who wud produce goods n services...again nobody need 2 do them....just buy n sell shares like crazy huh????  !@#$%^&



lookcc      ( Date: 19-Oct-2009 22:58) Posted:

how easier can it get????

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19-Oct-2009 23:08     
 
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Yup...

This is where the cause of suicides lie...

.ie.  "play hugely, and hoping to gain hugely"...  Smiley



lookcc      ( Date: 19-Oct-2009 23:02) Posted:

no one needs 2 work or do business....just buy n sell shares, money comes in...plenty of money if one buys hugely n sells hugely.

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19-Oct-2009 23:06     
 
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 Alert Admin 		from where or who u heard tis commentary?????

samloh28      ( Date: 19-Oct-2009 22:47) Posted:

Heard from commentary that the only way to save USA and the financial crisis is not Obama or any government intervention.  It is none other than the market itself.  The confidence in the market and the financial wizards out there or speculators or investors out there are the only ones who can push the market upwards.  The truth is only when the market recovers, the trillions seemingly lost will be back into the pockets of the banks, investors and the common investors like you and me.  Only investors like you and me have the money extra in our pockets, do we then splurge on the consumer items which make the world click, just look around, cars, LED TV, cameras, property, restuarants, clothings, DVDs etc.  It was said that only stock market recovers, then the recession will recover.  True enough, stocks recover from its lowest point in March 2009 to the current 10000 pts in Oct 2009. And the GDP will likely to show growth again, co-relation with the stock market.
 
Obama needs these financial people to drive the market crazy again and their greed and incentives will push the market up again.  Just need to look at the trend of the market.  In other words, follow the trend.  Do not fight against the trend like the sea wave.  Move along with the market when it is bull, albeit there are corrections along the way, i.e long the market.  Short the market when it is the downtrend.  For the moment, it appears that with the low interests, high liquidity, commencement of showing of growth in GDP of most nations, and good news for 3rd quarter results, it appears to be still on the uptrend.
 
The likely crash occurs at the highest point, which could be in June 2010, i.e. DOW go up another 4000 pts, it means 4000 pts / 8 mths or 500 pts per month, which means approx 125 pts per week or 25 pts per day, which is highly possible.  For STI, it means 1300 pts / 8 mths or 225 pts per month or 56 pts per week or mere 11 pts per day, very achieveable.  Remember that earning money from stock market is no short cut.  One feature must have patience and catch the big wave up. And patience to ride the wave, say in next 8 mths, assuming economic growth prevails in next 8 months, through solid liquidity and low interest rates and increase in pent up consumer demand.  So, hang on to the seat belt and move along with the market.  may not be too late.
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