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kellychang
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06-Feb-2010 18:48

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haha..

i only play one side...

can?

risktaker ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 18:38) Posted:

Everyday people making money hehe how can it be bad ? Unless you can only play 1 side :P

kellychang ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 18:32) Posted:

yes...

market is very bad now...

but i like :)

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Everyday people making money hehe how can it be bad ? Unless you can only play 1 side :P

kellychang ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 18:32) Posted:

yes...

market is very bad now...

but i like :)

WLBO_BB ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 18:29) Posted:

too bad mean the market too bad lor... :

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yes...

market is very bad now...

but i like :)

WLBO_BB ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 18:29) Posted:

too bad mean the market too bad lor... :)

kellychang ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 18:11) Posted:

smiling face mean happy mood lo...

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too bad mean the market too bad lor... :)

kellychang ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 18:11) Posted:

smiling face mean happy mood lo...

WLBO_BB ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 18:08) Posted:

haha gotcha! because i also wan to ask u what u mean by the smilimg face...

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STI is being weighed down by selling pressure. It look poised toward testing 2520, till then may trigger a mini rebound. Now STI clearly in negative divergence between the index and itself....

out-of-the-box ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 18:19) Posted:

DJ up 10pt only Friday so what you guys think Monday STI heading? Going to test 2600?

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06-Feb-2010 18:24

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big picture ?

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Published February 6, 2010

Speed bump-2004 again?

The way global share markets behaved six years ago is a reasonable guide as to what to expect this year. Corrections could prove to be buying opportunities

IT'LL GET HOTTER
We are still in the early stage of a typical bull market cycle, valuations are still reasonable, and investors are still relatively underinvested in shares

SHARES have fallen over the last week or so on the back of concerns about China's tightening, the regulation of banks in the US, and sovereign risk. This is consistent with our expectation for rougher and more constrained gains in share markets this year after the strong rebound from March 2009. Notwithstanding increased volatility, rising earnings are likely to underpin a rising trend in shares this year.

The experience of 2004 in which US shares spent nine months stuck in a range, and Asian shares, some commodities and the Australian dollar had a decent correction but all within the context of a still rising trend, is a reasonable guide as to what to expect this year.

Market weakness

Concerns that Chinese monetary tightening will trigger a hard landing in China, increasing US bank regulation and continuing financial stress in Greece have contributed to a pullback in share markets and other growth-oriented investments over the last week or so. From their highs in early January, most share markets have fallen around 6 per cent. Chinese shares have fallen about 9 per cent, although they have been range-bound since last August. Does this mean the recovery rally in shares and related trades is over?

Correction in a still rising trend

Our assessment is no, it's not. What we are going though is a correction within a still rising trend, consistent with our assessment that this year will see a bumpier ride for investors with more constrained but still positive returns. There are several reasons for this: Firstly, while further monetary tightening in China is likely, the hard landing in China now being feared by investment markets is most unlikely. Without the tightening now underway, growth in China this year would probably be heading for 14 per cent or so, creating excessive inflation and other imbalances. By moving pre-emptively, growth should be capped at a more sustainable pace. In fact, China is a long way from needing to undertake a draconian tightening designed to crunch growth. China has proved very successful in managing its economy over the last decade, and we see no reason why it will be any different this time around. Sure, growth slowed more than desired in 2008 but this was due to a collapse in exports on the back of the global financial crisis - and by its reaction China showed it will not tolerate a sharp downturn in growth. In fact, recent data is already showing signs of a slowdown in the pace of growth in credit, money supply, fixed asset investment, steel production and industrial production, suggesting that the authorities won't have to go too far to prevent the economy from overheating. While inflation is rising, excluding food it is still just 0.2 per cent year-on-year. Overall, we remain of the view that growth in China this year will be 10 per cent - which is still strong by anyone's reckoning, and will provide ongoing support for global growth and commodity prices.

Second, there is no doubt President Barack Obama's more aggressive proposals to regulate US banks - by limiting their size and barring them from owning hedge or private equity funds and engaging in proprietary trading unrelated to their clients - have created much uncertainty for the sector. Some view his plan as a hastily conceived move designed to tap popular anti-bank sentiment after the Democrats lost Ted Kennedy's Massachusetts Senate seat. More broadly, it is consistent with a theme of bigger government involvement in the economy post the global financial crisis. However, the US bank changes will take some time to be enacted and there is a good chance the Republicans will block the restrictions on bank activities. Other countries, including Australia, are unlikely to go down this path, but rather focus on strengthening capital adequacy requirements. (Treasurer Wayne Swan has indicated that the latest US approach is not being considered in Australia.)

Third, while Greece's public finances are a mess and several other countries face similar problems, they are not big enough to derail the global economic recovery overall. For example, Greece is just 2.6 per cent of the Euro area economy. High public debt levels are also a big issue in the US, UK, Europe and Japan more generally but none of these countries are at risk of default, with the more likely scenario of efforts to wind back debt creating a constraint for growth in these countries but not a major crisis.

Fourth, while interest rates globally are heading higher, the process is likely to be very gradual in key advanced countries with high levels of unemployment and low underlying inflation. In short, we are a very long way from the adoption of aggressive sharemarket-threatening interest rate levels in the US, Europe and Japan.

Fifth, profits globally are starting to move higher. While there have been some notable disappointments in the current reporting season in the US, so far nearly 80 per cent of companies have reported having beaten profit expectations and around 65 per cent have exceeded revenue expectations. The profit-reporting season in Asia is also proving to be strong. A 20-30 per cent gain in profits this year will be the key factor underpinning the continuation of the bull market in shares this year.

Finally, we are still in the early stage of a typical bull market cycle, valuations are still reasonable, and investors are still relatively underinvested in shares.

Déjà vu all over again

In a recent note we indicated that, after an initial rebound, the second year in a cyclical bull market is often tougher as the easy gains have been seen, shares become more dependent on earnings but stimulus measures start to be unwound, and that is what we are likely to face this year. In this regard, 2004 is a good guide as to what to expect this year.

The global tech-wreck bear market ended in March 2003 and was followed by very strong gains in share markets and other growth-oriented investments into early 2004 - much as we have seen since March last year. However, with the economy recovering at the time, in late January 2004 the Fed signalled a shift towards higher interest rates (which it started to do from June 2004) and China commenced monetary tightening, setting off fears of a hard landing in the Chinese economy. This ushered in nine months of range trading in US shares and a 20 per cent correction in Asian ex-Japan shares in April to May 2004 on worries that global monetary tightening would be negative for emerging markets.

Similarly, the move to higher US interest rates and worries about the outlook for growth in Asia on the back of Chinese tightening triggered a correction in metal prices and the Australian dollar into May-June 2004. While the Australian share market was little affected in 2004, resources shares underwent a correction relative to the broader market.

However, despite US and Chinese monetary tightening causing corrections in growth-oriented investment markets in 2004, the broad trend in global shares, Asian shares, commodities, resources stocks and the Australian dollar remained up as global and Chinese economic growth remained solid and fears of a hard landing dissipated.

So the lesson from 2004 is that while the initial phase of monetary tightening can result in a rougher ride for growth-oriented investments - particularly Asian shares, commodities and resources shares - provided a hard landing doesn't eventuate, then the rising trend will continue, and any corrections will prove to have been buying opportunities. This is what we expect to unfold this year.

Recent weakness in shares and other growth assets is likely to be a correction, rather than the start of a new bear market. While the correction may have further to go and this year will see more volatility than has been the case since March last year, we remain of the view that profit growth and still-low interest rates are likely to underpin further gains in shares this year.

The writer is head of investment strategy and chief economist, AMP Capital Investors

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06-Feb-2010 18:19

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DJ up 10pt only Friday so what you guys think Monday STI heading? Going to test 2600?

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06-Feb-2010 18:11

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smiling face mean happy mood lo...

WLBO_BB ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 18:08) Posted:

haha gotcha! because i also wan to ask u what u mean by the smilimg face...

kellychang ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 17:56) Posted:

too bad in what?

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haha gotcha! because i also wan to ask u what u mean by the smilimg face...

kellychang ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 17:56) Posted:

too bad in what?

WLBO_BB ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 17:49) Posted:

too bad,,,,

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06-Feb-2010 18:02

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growth will get better..this is the big picture..

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06-Feb-2010 17:58

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so ...

big picture now is??

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Livermore ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 17:54) Posted:

Important to see the big picture and not the small one

trader9988 ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 09:58) Posted:

what a complete change of view on the STI since jan till now.... As reported in Straits Times, analysts now bearish and even say will go dwn to 2520 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,flash back 1mth ago, they were bullish and say will go above 3000..... baaaa..... veri fast wind blow another direction...moral of the story...... ultimately the money is yours and you hv to make yr own final decision ...blindly following & yr money also gona whack down....so current trend is down now....dont fight against it.....any views?

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too bad in what?

WLBO_BB ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 17:49) Posted:

too bad,,,,

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Important to see the big picture and not the small one

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too bad,,,,

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WLBO_BB ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 17:27) Posted:

i used to stay there too... is it near woodlands mart??

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WLBO_BB ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 17:27) Posted:

i used to stay there too... is it near woodlands mart???

kellychang ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 17:21) Posted:

north

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06-Feb-2010 17:35

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We are officially in the bear market now.

You have 3 choices.

1. Go Short

2. Cut Loss

3. Wait Out

Do not jump into the market right now, Unless you know what you are doing.

Although Dow closes above yesterday's closing, but it is very weak.

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i used to stay there too... is it near woodlands mart???

kellychang ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 17:21) Posted:

north

street81 ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 16:56) Posted:

no la, dun drop la, or else my abalone become stone and z-obee become zommbie

street81? north south east or west?

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06-Feb-2010 17:21

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north

street81 ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 16:56) Posted:

no la, dun drop la, or else my abalone become stone and z-obee become zommbie

street81? north south east or west?

kellychang ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 15:53) Posted:

dow rebound from intra day low to close at intra day high -167 to +10..

to me , is a good sign...

but i hope sti, dow, europe all drop leh..

because i want buy cheap cheap stock mah...

ps: street 81, actually i also stay at street81 leh...maybe we r neighbour..

hahahahhaaha

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06-Feb-2010 17:00

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Cut loss!

street81 ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 16:56) Posted:

no la, dun drop la, or else my abalone become stone and z-obee become zommbie

street81? north south east or west?

kellychang ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 15:53) Posted:

dow rebound from intra day low to close at intra day high -167 to +10..

to me , is a good sign...

but i hope sti, dow, europe all drop leh..

because i want buy cheap cheap stock mah...

ps: street 81, actually i also stay at street81 leh...maybe we r neighbour..

hahahahhaaha

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no la, dun drop la, or else my abalone become stone and z-obee become zommbie

street81? north south east or west?

kellychang ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 15:53) Posted:

dow rebound from intra day low to close at intra day high -167 to +10..

to me , is a good sign...

but i hope sti, dow, europe all drop leh..

because i want buy cheap cheap stock mah...

ps: street 81, actually i also stay at street81 leh...maybe we r neighbour..

hahahahhaaha

street81 ( Date: 06-Feb-2010 15:48) Posted:

rebound onli a bit...monday trading in sg will be cautious...the key is monday night when US trades..

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