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cathylmg
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06-Oct-2008 22:23
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Looks like its staying down. | ||
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handon
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06-Oct-2008 22:20
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ouch.... donation.... | ||
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handon
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06-Oct-2008 22:09
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haha... small loss BIG GAIN..... no 10.0..... no sell..... | ||
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williamyeo
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06-Oct-2008 22:08
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BREAKING NEWS Dow plummets more than 300 points, falling below 10,000 for the first time in nearly 4 years, as anxiety over global slowdown grows.
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cathylmg
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06-Oct-2008 22:06
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Shit! | ||
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idesa168
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06-Oct-2008 22:04
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That is it! 10,000 broken...SHOWTIME! | ||
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cathylmg
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06-Oct-2008 22:04
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What is the next support? | ||
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handon
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06-Oct-2008 22:03
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long more.... DAX oversold.... hehe.... small loss Big GAIN.... SL 10.0 |
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idesa168
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06-Oct-2008 22:02
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Hit 10,000.66 | ||
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handon
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06-Oct-2008 21:59
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long some for round figure support.... 10.0.... | ||
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idesa168
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06-Oct-2008 21:52
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Just pray hard and keep fingers crossed that 10,000 holds. If not, it's show time! | ||
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cathylmg
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06-Oct-2008 21:50
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Looks like its going to break 10000. How low can it go? | ||
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tanglinboy
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06-Oct-2008 20:13
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Dow futures now -200 | ||
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Blastoff
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06-Oct-2008 14:27
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Investors relieved - but nervousWall Street got the bailout it was hoping for. But traders are uneasy and stock markets figure to be choppy this week.Last Updated: October 5, 2008: 7:30 PM ET
NEW YORK (AP) -- The world's financial markets face an uncertain and possibly volatile week as investors await details about how the Treasury will implement the government's financial rescue package - and watch for any further fallout from the credit crisis around the globe.
The markets have switched their focus to the world economy now that the $700 billion bailout plan has become law. And there's reason for their concerns - governments across Europe are rushing to prop up failing banks. On Sunday, Germany said it would guarantee all private bank accounts. It is the latest sign that the troubles of U.S. banks are affecting the financial systems of other countries. Banks' hesitation to lend to one another and to businesses and individuals is the consequence of the bad mortgage debt that the financial rescue is supposed to sweep up. But it's still unclear how quickly financial institutions will be able to hand that debt to the U.S. government and convince the markets they are healthy again. Futures for major U.S. stock indexes were pointing to a decline of between 1% and 2% at the open on Monday. European intervention: Doug Roberts, chief investment strategist at ChannelCapitalResearch.com, said the steps taken by governments abroad are welcome because a broad response, not simply the U.S. bailout, is needed to help steady the world's financial system. "A lot of the actions that are occurring overseas are good," he said. "What you really need now is stabilization and that really comes from the government." More moves by the Fed?: Roberts said the Federal Reserve and other central banks likely will continue to move in as needed to help shore up the markets. But he thinks bringing lasting calm to credit markets and financial institutions will take longer to work out than many observers predict. "This is much more expansive than anybody is assuming," said Roberts. "I think that this whole bailout bill is the first step in a series of steps." Still, he said policymakers likely will try to hold off on moves like rate cuts until they determine they have little choice. The fear, he said, is that the market could be unimpressed and policymakers would have few tools left to restore investors' confidence. "If one doesn't work what are you going to do for an encore?" Roberts and other market watchers say it's possible that the Fed, and perhaps other central banks, could cut interest rates this week - ahead of the central bank's scheduled meeting at month's end - if the credit markets don't show signs of life. With oil prices well off their midsummer highs and indicators pointing to a slower economy, the Fed's worries about inflation are less than they had been, making it easier to justify a rate cut. Expect choppy stock markets: With so many unknowns, it's likely to be a choppy ride on Wall Street for some time as the Treasury Department starts flexing the new powers granted by the financial rescue, which President Bush signed into law Friday shortly after the House passed a sweetened bill on the second try. "You're going to have a lot of volatility and we're going to get a whole lot of nowhere in the next few weeks," said Frank Ingarra, co-portfolio manager at Hennessy Funds. Investors will be straining to see how the Treasury goes about purchasing banks' debt and what prices the unwanted assets might fetch. If the government pays too little, it risks sending more banks into failure by depleting their asset bases. But paying too much could artificially strengthen banks that made bad decisions in lending and hurt taxpayers. "I think it's a little bit more 'show me' than 'tell me' here," Ingarra said, referring to investors' desire to see proof that the debt causing the lockup in the credit markets is being absorbed. Still, he contends the U.S. government rescue ultimately will help unclog the credit markets. "I think the bailout is huge. It will help us and help to mitigate the recession that we're in or going to be in," he said. Market still has plenty of hurdles
But even if the government's hand can reanimate the credit markets, investors will still face tough questions about everything from consumer spending and unemployment to the still-struggling housing sector. On Tuesday, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke is scheduled to speak on the prospects for the economy and the financial markets. Heads of other Fed banks are slated to comment on the crisis in speeches throughout the week. Investors can be expected to pore over the remarks for any signs of the central bank's next move and indications of how the credit markets and economy are faring. The Labor Department's weekly report on jobless claims, due Thursday, will draw particularly close attention following Friday's report that employers shed jobs in September for the ninth straight month. Beyond economic figures, quarterly results are due from Yum Brands (YUM, Fortune 500) Inc., the parent of KFC, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut, as well as grocery chain Safeway Stores Inc. and conglomerate General Electric (GE, Fortune 500). Investors also might pause to recount the turmoil that has shaken the markets in the past year. Thursday marks the one-year anniversary of the stock market's peak. On Oct. 9, 2007, the Dow Jones industrial average finished at 14,164.53. The blue chips begin this week down 27% from that level, at 10,352.38. More important than stocks, the credit markets where many companies turn for cash loans to finance a range of operations, remained strained Friday even after the bill became law. Demand for safe-haven investments like Treasury bills remains high, illustrating the fear in the markets. |
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tanglinboy
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05-Oct-2008 16:51
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The short selling ban has no effect on the markets. The same "shorting" effect can be achieved if people buy options.
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bsiong
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04-Oct-2008 10:40
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Sat, Oct 04, 2008 WASHINGTON - THE US Securities and Exchange Commission said on Friday it would lift its temporary order banning short-selling of financial shares next Thursday. |
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Blastoff
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04-Oct-2008 10:36
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Stocks slump despite bank rescueDow suffers worst weekly performance since the week after 9/11 attacks, as investors remain fearful about the economy.By Alexandra Twin, CNNMoney.com senior writer
Credit markets remained frozen, despite the vote, with two measures of bank jitters rising to record highs. Investors also looked to Wells Fargo's planned purchase of Wachovia and a dismal job market report. The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) lost 1.5% Friday and 7.3% for the week. On a point basis, the Dow lost 818 points this week, its biggest weekly point loss in seven years and the third biggest weekly loss ever. The Standard & Poor's 500 (SPX) index lost 1.4% Friday and 9.4% for the week. On a point basis, the S&P lost 114 points, the worst weekly point loss in seven years and the third biggest weekly loss ever. The Nasdaq composite (COMP) lost 1.5% Friday and 10.8% for the week. The 10.8% decline was the worst in seven years and fifth worst ever. But the weekly point drop of 236 points fell outside the ten worst in history. Wall Street rallied ahead of the early afternoon vote - with the Dow up as much as 313 points - as investors bet the House would pass the modified version of the bill after defeating a similar measure Monday. But once the House voted 263-171 to pass the bill, which would buy illiquid securities in order to unfreeze credit markets - stocks gave up gains. News that President Bush signed it into law failed to stop the downtrend. Wall Street was probably taking a classic "buy the rumor, sell the news" approach, analysts said. Additionally, markets may have implied that even with the new law, the economy remains under duress. "It's like a heart that's had a heart attack and, while it's recovering, it's still dealing with muscle damage," said Scott Anderson, senior economist at Wells Fargo. Anderson thinks the economy is in a recession now and will remain in one until at least this time next year. "Over time, the Treasury will be buying the bad assets, and we'll see what kind of impact that has," said Stephen Stanley, chief economist at RBS Greenwich Capital. "But the damage has already been done to the real economy." Stanley said banks won't be more willing to lend to each other or consumers anytime soon. The absence of ready capital has stalled the financial system and hurt consumers. The Dow plunged Thursday as frozen credit markets added to fears that the House might shoot down the bill. After Monday's failed vote, the Dow ended down a record 777 points. (Full story) "This bill should result in more confidence in the financial markets, but now that it's been passed, the hard work begins," said Ted Weisberg, NYSE floor trader at Seaport Securities. Credit markets: Measures of bank nervousness hit record levels Friday, even after the bill was signed into law. The 3-month Libor - the rate banks charge each other to borrow for three months - rose to 4.33% from 4.21% Thursday, the highest level since January, according to Bloomberg. The difference between the 3-month Libor and the Overnight Index Swaps rallied to an all-time high of 2.86%. The Libor-OIS spread measures how much cash is available for lending between banks and is used by banks to determine rates. The bigger the spread, the less cash is available. The TED spread, which is the difference between 3-month Libor and what the Treasury pays for a 3-month loan, briefly hit an all-time high of 3.88%, before settling at 3.87%. The wider the spread, the more reluctant banks are to lend to each other rather than from the federal government. When markets are fairly calm, banks charge each other premiums that are not much higher than the U.S. government. The yield on the 3-month Treasury bill, seen as the safest place to put money in the short term, fell to 0.49% from 0.68% late Thursday, with investors willing to take a piddling return on their money rather than risk stocks. On Monday, the yield fell to 0.14% as panic gripped the markets. Last month, the 3-month bill skidded to a 68-year low around 0%. (Full story) Long-term government debt prices gained and the yields slipped. The benchmark 10-year Treasury note rose 6/32, sending the corresponding yield down to 3.60% from 3.62% late Thursday. Treasury prices and yields move in opposite directions. Wachovia: Investors also eyed Wachovia (WB, Fortune 500)'s surprise news that it has accepted Wells Fargo (WFC, Fortune 500)'s $15.1 billion all-stock bid. Earlier this week, Wachovia had pledged to sell just its banking operations to Citigroup (C, Fortune 500) in a deal that would have required the involvement of the federal government. But a deal that would keep Wachovia intact was better for the company, its CEO said. (Full story) However, Citi appears to be ready to fight for Wachovia, issuing a statement that Wells Fargo should end the deal as it is in breach of Citi's contract. Wachovia rallied 58.8% in active New York Stock Exchange trade, while Wells Fargo fell 1.7%. Citigroup fell 18.4% on investor disappointment that it couldn't seal the deal with Wachovia. The broader financial sector tumbled, erasing gains accrued ahead of the vote. Market breadth was negative. On the New York Stock Exchange, losers topped winners almost two to one on volume of 1.4 billion shares. On the Nasdaq, decliners beat advancers five to two as 2.55 billion shares changed hands. Jobs report: The bailout focus and Wachovia news helped temper worries about a government report that showed the biggest drop in jobs since 2003. Employers cut 159,000 jobs from the payrolls in September, far exceeding economists' forecasts for 105,000 net losses, according to Briefing.com. It was the ninth-straight month the economy has lost jobs, bringing the 2008 tally up to 760,000 jobs lost. The unemployment rate, generated by a separate survey, stayed at 6.1%, unchanged from August and in-line with forecasts. (Full story) In other economic news, the Institute for Supply Management's reading on the services sector of the economy fell to 50.2 in September from 50.6 in August. That topped forecasts for a drop to 50, which is the measure for expansion in the index. AIG: The insurance company said it would sell some of its business to pay back the federal government the $61 billion in loans it has taken, after it narrowly avoided collapse last month. AIG (AIG, Fortune 500) shares gave up morning gains and ended 3.5% lower. (Full story) Oil and gold: Oil prices were lower, with U.S. light crude oil for November delivery settling down 9 cents to $93.88 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. (Full story) Oil prices have been choppy over the last few weeks amid the financial market crisis. Bets that a slowing global economy means slower oil demand have weighed on prices, following a peak of $147.27 a barrel on July 11. But the recent stock market turmoil has also made investors anxious for safer investments such as oil, gold and other commodities. COMEX gold for December delivery fell $11.10 to $833.20 an ounce. Other markets: In currency trading, the dollar gained against the euro and fell versus the yen. Gas prices fell for the 16th day in a row, according to a nationwide survey of credit card activity. In global trading, European markets rose, while Asian markets ended lower. |
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handon
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04-Oct-2008 03:49
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party about to start liao... if 10.3 cannot hold... | ||
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handon
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04-Oct-2008 01:58
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ranging btw 10.3 to 10.8.... 10.5 mid range... below 10.3... party.... above 10.8 oso party.... |
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cyjjerry85
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04-Oct-2008 01:55
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i m looking and observing the extreme jumps in intra-day number ...within a few seconds could see from +29 up to +109 ...then the next second down to +87...so on and so on... |
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