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baseerahmed
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07-Aug-2008 09:09
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Standing Ovation ! |
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07-Aug-2008 00:37
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elfie's bored. elfie wants to play. ----- continuing from that ghost month thread. hehe. The BB story....or why small fries tend to lose in the market. Small fries in the market: BB, looking at small fries: BB, planning 'action': BB, creates 'excitement'--some news release or whatever. Predictably, small fries go: Small fries jumping in for (they think) quick gain. BBs release counter. Small fries initially stunned: then become 'gong' by the slide: Small fries, unable to cut, just keep watching market (slide), day, after day, after day: BBs: Small fries' portfolio: ----------- Sooooo, ladies and germs! the moral of the story? 1) Know what exactly are the kind of counters you're buying (fast scalp? FA? slow TA? growth? etc) 2) Know who is the BB in your counter and how they play it 3) ALWAYS SET A STOP LOSS. This message has been brought to you courtesy of your friendly SJ elf. Thank you. |
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elfinchilde
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07-Aug-2008 00:03
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well cwquah, that's what usually happens. the MBAs are hired by the dropouts to run their companies. like Microsoft. and yea. personally i don't think very much of scholars. they tend to be from the upper class (hence, how do you expect them to know the daily life of a family living on an income of 3k, with 2 kids and grandparents?), plus, the moment they step into work, they're Assistant Directors, and virtually assured an iron ricebowl. I've worked with many scholars. the system is such that they're wholly protected, they go for big showy projects, create a mess, but STILL get promoted. And meanwhile, the non-scholars have to clean up after them. duh. To be fair, there are good ones too, who genuinely try to make a difference. But the people working with them tend to suck up to them, too. I've seen people jumping at their every word. So what you end up with is the blind leading the blind. hahahahha, stupidfool, i'm one of those who couldn't survive the system. need to note that scholar and 2nd upper class is very different. sometimes, if it's a group together, the scholar lords over it, the 2nd upper-non-scholars are the ones who are stuck doing all the work, because the poly and below get to be below the radar. It's a no-win situation, really. |
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CWQuah
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06-Aug-2008 23:52
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Isn't it interesting how Mr Sim Wong Hoo, a poly grad, runs a company which hires university graduate engineers? That's Creative btw. It's unfortunately the system recognises degrees as the main authentication of one's supposed capabilities. I've observed (at the risk of sounding too generalised) that the guys/gals who've gone thru poly education and then university education, tend to be more 'kilat' in life, stronger problem-solvers. Not to demean those guys who start well ahead with solid honours degrees w/o going the poly route. They tend to get better with age and practical experience. Qualifications indicate intellectual capability (and for those who managed to get thru by rote learning, memory capacity), but doesn't necessarily translate to working capability. All the MBAs, whizkids with masters in Finance, couldn't save US from subprime. |
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stupidfool
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06-Aug-2008 22:43
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The asians mentality that if one is good at studies(2nd upper or watever),he or she is like on the path to riches. Personally,i do not agree bt wat to do,we live in this region. There are many examples of wealthy ppl who made it w/o paper qualifications.And i have known of many so call 2nd upper grads who cannot cope with job stress etc.....anyway,life goes on. |
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elfinchilde
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06-Aug-2008 22:18
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not that it's impossible, but it's highly unlikely for a MP of this and the next generation to be a poly grad. because almost all--if not all--MPs are scholars of some sort, usually the PSC overseas merit scholarship; and to be such a scholar, you need to be selected from A levels. So straightaway from 18 they are eliminated already if they choose the poly route. And yups, as per singaporegal's remark: you need second uppers and above to enter Officer level. Poly grads and lower hons are ranked lower. The hierarchy is so strict that few, if any, can circumvent it. It's very rigid. Belated, but no baseer; i'm not on the pinnacle of maslow's hierarchy. the trouble is precisely that i am after self actualisation without the basics fulfilled. |
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AK_Francis
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06-Aug-2008 20:24
Yells: "Happy go lucky, cheers." |
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that one could be the last one liao, AK guess he works fr the glass root level and subsequently exels and to be distinctively noted by his Const MP. Sporegal comment is correct, central gov will hunt for talented MP's candidates fr stat board. Hence, with sporegal criteria mentioned, indirectly the candidate definitely is a degree holder, with Hnr. On this note, nowadays, you will never see one Star holding an A level or Dip. As when the star about to leave the service, their 2nd career path alrdy been planned for, either working in stat board(stepping stone to MP) or gov related consortiums, holding first or second man post in the coy. Life is realistic one, don't dream loh. AK don't hope for any, but health and just enough bread for feeding liao. Cheers folks.
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05-Aug-2008 14:54
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In the public service, you need at least a 2nd upper Honours degree to be taken seriously. Anything less than that and you can forget about being in management. |
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baseerahmed
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05-Aug-2008 10:20
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AK_Francis
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05-Aug-2008 01:18
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the below jokes, sent by someone, may look familiar to u. keep first for 2morow if nothing to read. as most of them were written in Hockkien, no offence loh, just jokes loh. Story 1 Ah Lian ask shopkeeper: Eh Ah chek, u got sell stocking up to knee, boh? Ah Chek : Wu siao ah! stocking wear up to 'yeo' (waist) only, where got up to the 'nee'(breast) one. Story 2 Ah Beng bought a Honda VTI recently and drove to Ah Lian's place to show it to her. So there Ah Beng was bragging the various functions of his new car to his girlfriend. 'This is ah, so fast even the Mata Chia cannot catch ah!' 'Ha! Really ah!!! Steady lah!' said Ah Lian. 'Some more hor, this is Automatic one, vely easy to drive!' So Ah Lian said, 'Let me try! I wan, I wan!' So Ah Lian took the driver's seat and shifted the gear and floored the & accelerator. The next moment, the car sped backwards and crashed into the lamp-post. 'Alamak! What u doing? U Siao Char Bo! U see lah! Wah Piang eh!' screamed Ah Beng. 'Solee, solee, pai sei lah! No lah, I tot hor, 'R' for racing mah!'* Story 3 The Titanic was sinking, and there weren't enough lifeboats. So the captain had to persuade male passengers to jump into the icy waters to make room for women and children. To the British he said. 'You must act like gentlemen.' They jumped. To the Americans he said, 'You can be heroes.' They complied. To the Germans he said, 'It'! s the rule.' They obeyed. To the Japanese he said,' It's the consensus.' They obliged. Then came the Singaporean and they just weren't budging until he came up with the appeal: 'Free life jackets for those who jumped.' Story 4 3 recruits - Chinese, Malay & Indian are at the army supply base to collect underwear. The sergeant was there to aid the supplies. Sergeant: Hei Ah Beng! How many underwear you need ah? Ah Beng: (thinks a while) 7 sasen(sergeant)! Sergeant: (puzzled) How come so many? Ah! Beng: Mon, Tues, Wed, Thurs, Fri, Sat & Sun. One day one. Sergeant: (Malay recruit) Eh Mat! How many underwear? Mat: (without hesitation) 6 sargen! Sergeant: (curious) How come six? Mat: Mon, Tues, Wed, Thurs, Sat & Sun. Friday I wear sarong. Sergeant: (Indian recruit) Dei Tambi. How many underwears dah dei? Tambi: (very confidently) 12 Sarjen !!!! Sergeant: (shocked & fell to the ground) Why you need so many for? Tambi: January, February, March.....One month one. Story 5 Once upon a time, a group of Ah Bengs stepped into a lounge and wanted the DJ to play the song 'Ah Cheng Buey RoTi' (In Hokkien means Ah Cheng buys bread). The DJ told them that they only have English songs and told them to re-select another song. The Ah Bengs were very angry and kicked up a bigfuss, claiming the DJ was insulting them. The manager had to intervene in order to calm them down. Finally, after long talk with Ah Bengs, the manager found out that Ah Bengs actually asking for the song 'Unchained Melody' by the Righteous Brothers. Story 6 One day, two Ah Lians got into a lift from the 20th storey and want to get down to the ground floor. As they looked at the dial, they could see the number 20 down to number 2. It was then followed by a G. As they not English-educated, they were puzzled and had no idea what does the letter G mean. Suddenly one of them exclaimed excitedly and hit G. When they finally reached the ground floor, the other Ah Lian was so impressed and asked the first Ah Lian, 'Wah low!!!, how you know one?' The first Ah Lian reply smugly, 'Easy lah.. G for Gero mah...' Story 7 Santa Singh (remember him?) just graduated from Law school and decided to apply for a job in the most prestigious 'Lee & Lee Law Firm' During the interview, Mr. Lee Kk looked at Santa Singh's resume, thinks for a while and said, 'Well, I would need to discuss your application with my wife.' And went off to discuss Santa's application with his wife. Lee Kk's wife said, 'C'mon, don't you know that we only hire lawyers with surnames beginning with 'Lee' only? Of course, we can't hire Santa Singh!' So Lee ! Kk told the bad news to Santa Singh about his rejection. Few days later, Santa Singh came back to the same company and request for another interview and Lee Kk said, 'Look Santa, I have already told you that we only hire.......' when Santa Singh interrupted him and said, 'I know, I know. I have just changed my name. Lee Kk looked at Santa Singh in surprise and asked, 'What is your new name then?' On this, Santa Singh replied, 'Surname Lee, Last name, Manga!' (Manga-Lee) |
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baseerahmed
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04-Aug-2008 22:13
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ooh, thanks for the response, baseer. you do have a very positive view of life. could learn that from you. :) thank you ! didn't realise it ... hope it is contagious .. glad could spread this ' disease ' ... ! hahaha ! and i like the kashmir donkey quote! [Clap] wonder tho if we can say that the local donkey doesn't know saffron, because saffron is not allowed to the donkey. it is reserved for foreigners, much the way cashmere is. :P and [ROFL] on the mas selamat 'starring' bit. hehe. saffron is not allowed ? did u knock , or just assumed that it is not allowed ..i wouldn't know any better either ..hahaha ...anyway there are many more flowers out there ...I belief ... when Athma Jothi (Inner Brilliance) shines, what is the brilliance of fire .. ? i am dreaming on the pinnacle of maslow's pyramid. hence what is stopping is pragmatism. the realistic fact that a dream doesn't feed the stomach. The boredom of a monotony that has no sparks nor shards of brilliance. But, Fitzgerald said it rightly in The Great Gatsby, that "no amount of fire or freshness can challenge what a man can store up in his ghostly heart." if you are on the pinnacle, that means u need not worry about feeding your stomach ... JBJ at this age formed a Political Party ... he was a 'pariah' on the streets selling newsletters/books ....guess, like Steve Jobs ..sooner or later you will find ur calling ... remember he was 'wandering' after he was thrown out of the company he founded ...and later founded Pixar and the Toy Story ....u still have youth and Time on ur side ...seek and u shall find .... truly,sincerely, wish you the very best .... you go girl .. ! George Yeo. ah, i could tell you things about him. A good man. [Wildcat] A cheeky , devilish guessing : you have access to Corridors of Power ?... hahaha ! ... offer yourself as his understudy,then ... I just love his articulations, sometimes I think he articulates what I think ... in my books, I wonder if he is near Philsopher King ........ hahaha ! Ok ... maybe let's cool off this topic ...for now...least we irritate others with this bantering .. hahaha ! |
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ooh, thanks for the response, baseer. you do have a very positive view of life. could learn that from you. :) and i like the kashmir donkey quote! wonder tho if we can say that the local donkey doesn't know saffron, because saffron is not allowed to the donkey. it is reserved for foreigners, much the way cashmere is. :P and on the mas selamat 'starring' bit. hehe. i am dreaming on the pinnacle of maslow's pyramid. hence what is stopping is pragmatism. the realistic fact that a dream doesn't feed the stomach. The boredom of a monotony that has no sparks nor shards of brilliance. But, Fitzgerald said it rightly in The Great Gatsby, that "no amount of fire or freshness can challenge what a man can store up in his ghostly heart." George Yeo. ah, i could tell you things about him. A good man. |
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04-Aug-2008 11:04
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streetdirectory is back ! yeah, now the fuction is better ! u can drag to mouse left and right to move the map.. cool....... |
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baseerahmed
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04-Aug-2008 01:14
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Wow ! this is really heavy-duty stuff .... hahaha ... Actually I put up Steve Jobs "Dreams speech " as a reminder for me ( and fellow beginners) in my pursuit , in this context, to getting a hang on learning TA,charts etc ...and I was reflecting on how much I have gathered over past few years, bit by bit , and how out of the blue someone or some new ideas comes and excites me .....hahaha ! Ok , here's the fun part ...as usual , in my usual off-tangent random style ramblings .... here goes ....hahaha ! -------------------- hmm...baseer, a question for you: is singapore a place for dreams and dreamers? it used to be a place for dreams for the pioneers and the first generation .. and it is still now a place of dreams for the foreigners from neighbouring, less developed countries , and even to some 1st world people .. ( er .. can we include Jim Rogers ..hahaha ) ...and unfortunately .. as they say, the local donkey in Kashmir does not know the value of the saffron .. as is with the bulk indegenous people ,the people in the comfort zone .. dreamers ... dreaming of winning the $8 million in toto on 080808 ..nothing wrong with taht dream either ... hahaha ! Do we really have space for it. or is it that if you dream differently from the norm (ie, you don't dream about getting a steady job/starting a business, a flat, 2 kids, grow old, retire, die), then in effect, there is no place for you here? What is ur dream ..where are u dreaming on the maslows scale ... what are u dreaming about ? What is your dream ? What stopped u from dreaming and persuing your dream ? What limits ur dream ? You or the society or ur upbringing ? Politics = Sylvia Lim , Low , Chiam See Tong , JBJ ... Business = Creative, Hyflux ... Social/ Political Issues = Chaterine Lim , ...Theatre = Ivan Heng , Eleanor Wong ...Movies = Jack Neo .....( Prison Break = Mas Selamat ... hahaha ? ) Do we really accept those who march to the beat of a different drummer, as Thoreau says. Or do we just castigate and lynch those whose dreams are different? Who lynches ... the govt .. the society ...the asian culture ..our traditinal upbringing .. hahaha ? Sometimes it seems to me that we're a nation of armchair critics resistant to change. That overtly we call for it, but when the time comes for action, people just slink away, muttering that those who want change are "stupid". If it ain't broken why fix it ? Well if sometimes , what about other times ? Resistance to new ideas are always stronger , status quo is comfortable , ... but over time acceptance will take over if the ideas are sensible . Ours isn't a culture of positive reinforcement, nor belief. Most often, singaporeans move because they are pushed; and not for a natural affinity for what they are doing. Too often, dreams get buried under the daily grey concrete of existence, the monotony of having to be. Are u talking about our Asian Culture/Upbringing or Singapore Culture ... ? The first generation had no choice ... they knew nothing better... but the second and the third generations ... they have English at their command ..slowly things will evolve... anyway ..all of us are all pushed in one way or other .. by the relatives, by the neighbours , by the kiasuism ... we are dynamic ... Imagination. It is the one crucial quality which most singaporeans do not possess. We only know how to follow out of fear. And so, they will diss those who think differently. Necessity is mother of invention ... pressure will produce diamonds.....Singapre now is no longer the singapore it used to be the past 1 and half generations.. i sense that it is slowly moving away from what it used to be ... remember even the once mighty British etc had a grip on lands for more than 5 centuries and when the time came they too rolled back to thier land ... slowly slowly ... how old are we anyway , 43 this year ? How old is US , French , China , India ..... each had walked many many many miles ... we have hardly taken baby steps .... Personally , I sense there is an undercurrent of change going on in this city-state ... do you ? ... a bit jolted by George Yeo's daring statement ...... Mr Yeo was speaking to students at a dialogue session at the Singapore Polytechnic on Friday ...planting seeds in the younger minds now ...? S’poreans should vote for new party if PAP is no longer capable. http://sg.news.yahoo.com/cna/20080801/tap-372-sporeans-vote-new-party-pap-long-231650b.html ..er ....are u dreaming of standing for the next election ...hahaha ! : ) |
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baseerahmed
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Wow ! this is really heavy stuff .... hahaha ... Actually I put up Steve Jobs "Dreams speech " as a reminder for me in my pursuit , in this context, to getting a hang on learning TA,charts etc ...and I was refelecting on how much I have gathered over past few years, bit by bit , and how out of the blue someone or some new ideas comes and excites me .....hahaha Ok , here's the fun part ...as usual , in my usual off-tangent random style ramblings .... here goes ....hahaha ! -------------------- hmm...baseer, a question for you: is singapore a place for dreams and dreamers? it used to be a place for dreams for the pioneers and the first generation .. and it is still now a place of dreams for the foreigners from neighbouring, less developed countries , and even to some 1st world people .. ( er .. can we include Jim Rogers ..hahaha ) ...and unfortunately .. as they say, the local donkey in Kashmir does not know the value of the saffron .. as is with the bulk indegenous people ,the people in the comfort zone .. dreamers ... dreaming of winning the $8 million in toto on 080808 ..nothing wrong with taht dream either ... hahaha ! Do we really have space for it. or is it that if you dream differently from the norm (ie, you don't dream about getting a steady job/starting a business, a flat, 2 kids, grow old, retire, die), then in effect, there is no place for you here? What is ur dream ..where are u dreaming on the maslows scale ... what are u dreaming about ? What is your dream ? What stopped u from dreaming and persuing your dream ? What limits ur dream ? You or the society or ur upbringing ? Politics = Sylvia Lim , Low , Chiam See Tong , JBJ ... Business = Creative, Hyflux ... Social/ Political Issues = Chaterine Lim , ...Thearte = Ivan Heng , Eleanor Wong ...Movies = Jack Neo .....( Prison Break = Mas Selamat ... hahaha ? ) Do we really accept those who march to the beat of a different drummer, as Thoreau says. Or do we just castigate and lynch those whose dreams are different? Who lynches ... the govt .. the society ...the asian culture ..our traditinal upbringing .. hahaha ? Sometimes it seems to me that we're a nation of armchair critics resistant to change. That overtly we call for it, but when the time comes for action, people just slink away, muttering that those who want change are "stupid". If it ain't broken why fix it ? Well if sometimes , what about other times ? Resistance to new ideas are always stronger , status quo is comfortable , ... but over time acceptance will take over if the ideas are sensible . Ours isn't a culture of positive reinforcement, nor belief. Most often, singaporeans move because they are pushed; and not for a natural affinity for what they are doing. Too often, dreams get buried under the daily grey concrete of existence, the monotony of having to be. Are u talking about the Asian Culture or Singapore Culture ... ? The first generation had no choice ... they knew nothing better... but the second and the third generations ... they have English at their command ..slowly things will evolve... All of us are all pushed in one way or other .. by the relatives, by the neighbours , by the kiasuism ... we are dynamic ... Imagination. It is the one crucial quality which most singaporeans do not possess. We only know how to follow out of fear. And so, they will diss those who think differently. Necessity is mother of invention ... Singapre now is no longer the singapore it used to be the past 1 and half generation .. i sense that it is slowly moving away from what it used to be ... the British etc had a grip on lands for more tha 5 centuries and when the time came they too rolled back to thier land ... slowly slowly ... how old are we anyway , 43 this year ? How old is US , French , China , India ..... each had walked many many many miles ... we have hardly taken baby steps .... Personally , I sense there is an undercurrent of change going on in this city-state ... do you ? ... a bit jolted by George Yeo's daring statement ...... Mr Yeo was speaking to students at a dialogue session at the Singapore Polytechnic on Friday ...planting seeds in the younger minds now ...? S’poreans should vote for new party if PAP is no longer capable. http://sg.news.yahoo.com/cna/20080801/tap-372-sporeans-vote-new-party-pap-long-231650b.html ..er ....are u dreaming of standing for the next election ...hahaha ! : ) |
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03-Aug-2008 22:58
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Fear is a natural manifestation of the self-protective instinct...
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03-Aug-2008 21:55
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hmm...baseer, a question for you: is singapore a place for dreams and dreamers? Do we really have space for it. or is it that if you dream differently from the norm (ie, you don't dream about getting a steady job/starting a business, a flat, 2 kids, grow old, retire, die), then in effect, there is no place for you here? Do we really accept those who march to the beat of a different drummer, as Thoreau says. Or do we just castigate and lynch those whose dreams are different? Sometimes it seems to me that we're a nation of armchair critics resistant to change. That overtly we call for it, but when the time comes for action, people just slink away, muttering that those who want change are "stupid". Ours isn't a culture of positive reinforcement, nor belief. Most often, singaporeans move because they are pushed; and not for a natural affinity for what they are doing. Too often, dreams get buried under the daily grey concrete of existence, the monotony of having to be. Imagination. It is the one crucial quality which most singaporeans do not possess. We only know how to follow out of fear. And so, they will diss those who think differently. |
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baseerahmed
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03-Aug-2008 11:11
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Ask, and you will receive. Search, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened for you. Matthew 7:7 |
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baseerahmed
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03-Aug-2008 09:23
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Pursue your dreams and see the opportunities in life's setbacks by Steve Jobs Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder of Apple Computer and of Pixar Animation Studios, at Stanford University's 114th Commencement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc |
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baseerahmed
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03-Aug-2008 08:45
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Pursue your dreams and see the opportunities in life's setbacks by Steve Jobs, Chief Executive Officer and co-founder of Apple Computer and of Pixar Animation Studios http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc ( can embed video in SJ ? ) |
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