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Hongfok - recharged from 2Q09
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investorpw
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02-May-2012 20:35
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Agree. Need somebody to take control of the board, instead of being submissive. Keep the pressure up. | ||||
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kirana
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02-May-2012 20:18
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Looks like we already started the ball rolling. Ladies and gentlemen, keep coming in! Those who bought at $3.00, $2.00, $1.00, 50 cents what have you. There is certainly deep value in this company. It is simply that the management are not concerned with the little man in the street. Need to crack this chunk of nuts! | ||||
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Jackpot2010
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02-May-2012 20:15
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don't forget Oei Hong Leong younger sister, Ms Oei Sui Hua aka Sukmawati Widjaja is also a corporate raider. She took control of Singapore listed TOP GLOBAL in 2009, with plans to push into property markets in Spore, China & Indonesia.  
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Jackpot2010
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02-May-2012 19:56
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this old article (Oei & SC Global) already archived, link not working - so i paste the whole thing here for all to see: Oei Hong Leong disposes of entire stake in SC Global09 January 07   The Business Times   by Daniel Buenas BUSINESSMAN Oei Hong Leong, seen by some market watchers as an investor with the Midas touch, has disposed of his entire 6.78 per cent stake in property developer SC Global. The married deal was done through his investment vehicle, Oei Hong Leong Foundation Pte Ltd. Mr Oei owns more than 50 per cent of the issued share capital of Chip Lian Private Limited, which, in turn, holds 100 per cent of the Oei Hong Leong Foundation. SC Global said last night that Mr Oei ceased to be a substantial shareholder of the company after Oei Hong Leong Foundation, through a married deal, disposed of 9.824 million shares of SC Global. This represented Mr Oei's entire deemed stake in SC Global of 6.78 per cent. 'The change in the percentage level is the result of a series of transactions,' SC Global said in a statement to the Singapore Exchange. No further information was given. SC Global's share price ended trading yesterday unchanged at $2.71. In July 2005, SC Global sold 19.18 million new shares at $1.23 a piece, or about 20 per cent of its issued share capital then, to three parties - Mr Oei's Chip Lian Investments, Mark Well Investment and Choo Yeow Ming. It raised $23.6 million. At the time, Chip Lian Investments paid $11.8 million for an 8.3 per cent stake in SC Global. Their stakes were diluted when SC Global did two more rounds of placements in December 2005 and September last year. |
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Jackpot2010
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02-May-2012 19:51
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Possible that Oei Hong Leong is the White Knight to rescue HF. 5 yrs ago (2007) Oei was involved with another relative of the Cheong family, sold 20% of SG Global at $2.71 and pocket big profit (Simon Cheong of SC Global is related to the Cheong family of HF).  By coincidence his investment vehicle is located beside HF International Bldg: Oei Hong Leong Foundation Pte Ltd, 1 Scotts Road, #25-05, Shaw Centre S(228208) Tel: 67362900  http://www.sgmaritime.com/Singlenews.aspx?DirID=86& rec_code=51286& title=Oei%20Hong%20Leong%20disposes%20of%20entire%20stake%20in%20SC%20Global
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tea444u
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02-May-2012 17:23
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can we approach him? oei hong leong   i mean...can we   go and approach him ??
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kirana
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02-May-2012 14:05
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I am following some discussion on CNA forum, and many was 'saying' or rather 'sharing' that this will be privatised and delisted. We need Oei Hong Leong to buy up and bang the table with the present management, like what he did in NSL. |
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tea444u
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01-May-2012 12:55
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minority shareholders should do something about this....  | ||||
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kenkenken
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01-May-2012 10:45
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Can we get more voice from more people tapping the power of internet communication and perhap ask if Mr Mano help?
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kenkenken
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01-May-2012 10:39
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can u shhest we do something? like petition?
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Jackpot2010
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01-May-2012 00:01
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Minorities have to look to Mano Sabnani for further guidance. This is b'cos SGX is a dumb regulator, from what has transpired last 3 days: a) on 27 Apr SGX raised a query (in response to Business Tims article of the same day) stating that the minutes were relevant to all members, including those who did not attend the AGM and required HF directors to post minutes of AGM on it website for all to see. b) on 27 Apr HF directors replied, resisted SGX request and insisted that it will only sent minutes to those present and who have requested for it in writing. It added that $1 is chargeable per page of minutes. No reaction from SGX to their resistance. http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_642D15E7BEB6AE6A482579ED004050B9/$file/HFCSGXReply.pdf?openelement c) Noting heard on 28 Apr and 29 Apr. SGX chose to go dumb! d) On 30 Apr SGX raised another query but it is not related to the earlier one regarding the minutes of AGM.   Instead of requiring HF directors to comply to its earlier query of 27 Apr, SGX kept silent. By keeping dumb, SGX is telling everyone that it is a weak & powerless exchange regulator. That's why S-chip like China Sky Chemical Fibre Co Ltd dared to opening reject SGX request to appoint independent auditor despite repeated requests. http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_9ABB08402F6FD14A482579F000368716/$file/HFCSGXReply30042012.pdf?openelement     |
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Jackpot2010
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29-Apr-2012 21:54
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please do so, max coverage will " shame" them unless their skin is made of elephant hide.  when they die (Cheong family), all these ill-gotten wealth cannot be transported to their next world, if any. Using simple arithematic to highlight my point below: In 1 yr they makan $12m (4 executive directors + relatives at top mgt level), therefore in 31 yrs (i.e. since SGX listing in 1981 to 2012) they makan =  $372m, an astronomical greed, especially when compared to Hong Fok's market cap of merely $360m as @today. That's why listing px of $3.60 fell off the cliff - all the way down to 45c today.
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investorpw
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29-Apr-2012 21:32
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      Some more nuggets of information, including names of non-Cheong related directors. Coutesy of 'viviene" at NEXTINSIGHT forum page. Spread the news.    |
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tea444u
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29-Apr-2012 21:26
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think should   highlight in market talk cna also...the three published articles... can i copy and paste? | ||||
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Jackpot2010
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29-Apr-2012 20:59
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Simon cheong is related to " cheong family" of Hong Fok but this saga has nothing to do with him. I see SC Global as an upright co unlike Hong Fok. Simon Cheong was ex-Citibanker and CSFB but his family background is in property development. His father worked for an uncle (Cheong) in Yat Yuen Hong Co Ltd, a 100%-owned subsidiary of Hong Fok Corporation Ltd. You mentioned Asian crooks, but they are no match for Western crooks- " Made-in-USA" Big time fraudster like Bernie Madoff, Ken Lay (Enron), and the list goes on & on....
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kirana
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29-Apr-2012 14:42
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This is a sticky situation. The owners of this company are probably old hands in the business as well as understand how the stock exchange and the open market operates. Looks like they are playing the upper hand all the time. Contrary to the western concept of listing companies for business growth, this is a good example of squeezing things out. There are plenty of business like that unfortunately, in Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Asian as a whole. CHina has lots of such example of using the exchange to realize the get-rich-quick dream. If I am not wrong, there is also a company SC Global somehow related to Ah Fook.....also a property developer...wonder how are they related.... |
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Jackpot2010
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29-Apr-2012 12:39
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Published articles (b) and (c): The Straits Times Published on 28 April 2012 Grievances galore at Hong Fok AGM By Gan Yu Jia No Remuneration committee, muddled roles of the Executive Directors, no shareholder dividends for five years and questionable voting methods. These were among the list of grievances that one shareholder cited at property firm Hong Fok’s AGM on Thursday which he described as “tumultuous”. Mr Mano Sabnani said that Hong Fok, when queried during the meeting about the lack of shareholder dividends despite a $40.4 million rise in profits last year, gave a “dismissive” answer. “They said they have a plan to do other development” said Mr Sabnani who is also Chief Executive of business advisory Rafflesia Holdings. “They said, if you want dividends, why don’t you go buy a Reit?” The Company Directors declined to comment when contacted yesterday. Mr Sabnani also took issue with the salaries of the four Executive Directors, given the lack of a Remuneration committee. “The Chairman and Chief Executive draw about $2.9 million the other two also earn an average of $2 million if you add up, that is about $10 million for four of them.” he said. “The issue is that, you can pay yourself $10 million, but you cannot pay a dividend.” Mr Sabnani was also angered by what he regarded as the unsatisfactory response of the company’s bosses to a clarification sought on their respective roles. “The CEO told us, they’re all the same - they just work together. They have no separate roles.” he said. The four directors - Mr Cheong Kim Pong, Mr Cheong Pin Chuan, Ms Cheong Hooi Kheng and Mr Cheong Sim Eng - are all related. Mr Sabnani also said that votes were initially carried out by show of hands. However, after “four or five” resolutions concerning audited accounts, issuance of shares and appointment of directors were voted down, voting was changed to a poll. Each shareholder gets one vote if it is counted via show of hands, while a poll vote takes into account the number of shares that a voter has. That was when many irate shareholders, Mr Sabnani included, walked out of the meeting. In a filing to the Singapore Exchange on Thursday night, Hong Fok said that all the resolutions have been duly passed by way of poll and show of hands. There was no further disclosure by Hong Fok yesterday.   THE BUSINESS TIMES PUBLISHED APRIL 27, 2012 AGM WATCH Hong Fok minorities leave AGM over directors' pay They raise concerns key management are getting paid in excess of $10m BY KENNETH LIM DISGRUNTLED minority shareholders of developer Hong Fok Corp stormed out of the company's annual general meeting (AGM) after directors thwarted their attempt to reject key resolutions amid concerns about directors' remuneration. " Shareholders rejected the directors' report and the audited results by show of hands . . . so the chairman proposed that all the resolutions be put through the poll," said minority shareholder Mano Sabnani, chief executive of advisory firm Rafflesia Holdings. Directors of Hong Fok could not be reached for comment. Mr Mano said minority shareholders yesterday raised concerns that Hong Fok's key management has been getting paid in excess of $10 million in total for the past few years - the 2011 annual report for Hong Fok said employee benefits paid to key management, excluding directors fees, amounted to $12.1 million in 2011. He felt that the amount was excessive, especially in the light of the Company’s lack of dividends and the absence of remuneration committee. The Executive Directors and a number of key management at Hong Fok are related, and the roles of the Directors are vague, Mr Sabnani added. “We told them, you have to set up a remuneration committee.” he said. Mr Sabnani said that when voting was called by a show of hands, a majority of shareholders at the meeting rejected key resolutions. Hong Fok Chairman Cheong Kim Pong then called for voting by poll, which angered a number of shareholders, who left the AGM. “You can’t say, show of hands, then I don’t like the results, I’m going to do a poll.” Mr Sabnani said. “It’s a can’t win situation for minorities.” Hong Fok announced yesterday that all the resolutions at the AGM won almost unanimous approval, but Mr Sabnani noted that many investors who were against the resolutions had left and therefore did not vote by poll. Securities Investors Association Singapore President David Gerald said the situation, if accurate, raised governance issues. “Company Directors must act in the interest of the company and shareholders,” he said. “If shareholders are unhappy, directors should address those concerns.”  
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Jackpot2010
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29-Apr-2012 11:51
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Many thanks for all your encouragement n support for minorities. i urged every minorities to fight for your rights & not to give up so easily. Help us to broadcast to other forums as well. So far our struggle hv alerted regulators SGX with a query + 3 published articles in Business Times and Straits Times - this publicity for minorities is consider good for a small co like HF with mkt cap of mere $370m (@45c). Some hv pm me to post these 3 articles in full here b'cos they hv no online access to them. a) Business Times 28 Apr 2012: " Hong Fok resist SGX request to post AGM minutes"   b) Straits Times 28 Apr 2012: " Grievances galore at Hong Fok AGM"   c)  Business Times 27 Apr 2012: " Hong Fok minorities leave AGM over directors' pay" I post article (a) here, followed separately by (b) and (c).    The Business Times PUBLISHED APRIL 28, 2012 Hong Fok resists SGX request to post AGM minutes BY KENNETH LIM HONG Fok Corp yesterday resisted the Singapore Exchange's (SGX) request to post the minutes of its controversial annual general meeting (AGM) on the exchange's website, citing provisions in the Companies Act. SGX queried the property developer about its AGM, which took place on Thursday, during which shareholders raised concerns about directors' remuneration and the way that the company switched voting methods midway. " As there appears to have been concerns raised at the AGM, please disclose the minutes of the AGM to enable shareholders who were not present to be equally apprised of the matters discussed at the AGM," SGX said, adding that the company " should post the minutes of the AGM on SGXNET" . But, citing the Companies Act, Hong Fok said that shareholders who wanted the minutes should write to the company, adding that the company may charge up to $1 per page. Hong Fok also said that the Chairman was allowed, under its articles of association, to switch to a vote by poll from a vote by show of hands if the result of the vote by show of hands have yet to be declared. One shareholder at the AGM told BT that a show of hands had appeared to defeat a key resolution before the Chairman demanded a poll. Hong Fok added that SGX itself appears to feel that polls are fairer, noting that a consultation paper of listing rules by the exchange pushed for all resolutions to be decided through voting. As for how Directors’ remuneration is determined, even though Hong Fok does not have a Remuneration committee on its Board, the company - whose Executive Directors are relatives - said that remuneration are determined informally. “Annually, the Board conducts an informal assessment of the individual director remuneration,” Hong Fok said. “No director decides his or her own remuneration. This is the latest case of a listed company seeming to resist SGX’s requests. In the most prominent case at the moment, China Sky Chemical Fibre, repeatedly rejected the exchange’s directive to appoint an independent auditor. A lawyer at SGX has argued that companies and directors are contractually obliged to comply with SGX directives even though SGX is not a statutory body.   |
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tea444u
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29-Apr-2012 01:21
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such shameful behaviour... i am with you guys... any lawyers here? do hf minority shareholders haf a chance in this? how come no action for so long? shareholders just suffer silently???? | ||||
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kirana
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28-Apr-2012 22:36
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Yeah, so let's do it! WHat are  people waiting for? Any lawyers here also stuck? | ||||
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