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Stockcham Elite	12-Oct-2013 19:24        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro muifan, I don't know about the comms thing le. They are big players and I believe they should have special comms rate. I didn't watch Mirach, so can't figure out. From my understanding there are more than 1 operator the last time. Huat ah!
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muifan Master	12-Oct-2013 19:01        muifan About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Take the leap of faith dont regret 20 years later!"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks bro on your point of bb throw to themselves to force the price down to force retailers out... Now I start to understand that might have happen to mirach at fri ending last hour ... At first thought i thought was 2 bb fighting... Now after what you say might have another scenario..., but my question is if they throw big lots to themselves... Will they be losing big comms? Stockcham      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 18:41) Posted: Bro whiteluggage, thanks for sharing your view. Hope to see that more often. You raised up a very important point. That is when a stock gap up and close below opening price. In my opinion, it will depend on how much it drop from the opening price. If it doesn't drop too much(see CCM chart as example), I think it is ok after the stock move up quite a bit the previous day. If it drop too much from the opening price compared to the previous day gain, then no good and it is good to sell as you mentioned. For EMS, the drop is more and close day low. If I didn't see the movement, I would say this is no good. I'm still holding and didn't not cut because of a few reasons below. 1) Yes, it closed at day low and below opening. But from the chart you can still see that the day low and high is getting higher for 4 consecutive day. That will mean that there is a possibility that the uptrend is still intact. Only have to confirm again in the next trading day. So Monday have to move up preferably with higher day low and high. 2) In the morning, I can see that the BBs eat up 69 and 70 in big lots. I would say they are buying. I looked closely at the last hour sell down. It was fast after 67 gave way. After 67 gone, 66 was also gone in less than a minute. This is not normal sell orders under no special bad news. The question here is who are the big buyers at 66 & 67. I believe the BBs sold it down(sell to themselves) to force contra players to throw lower. Don't forget that Friday was T+5 for 80mil traded lots done. Sometimes BBs will press the price down just like how they press CCM to close day low of 171 three weeks ago, and it chiong the next day. On Friday, Ace Achieve BBs also keep pressing the price down all the way to 50. We shall see whether it recover in 1-2 days time. Anyway, these are just my thoughts only. I may be wrong. Since it closed lower than opening price by more pips and closed at day low, it is better to be careful and cut when necessary. I see some support at 62. I will cut if I think it cannot close at min. 62. Good Luck and huat ah! whiteluggage      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 15:31) Posted: i was around for a long time already. only kept quiet. ok, my wtf is actually what the freak. yes, i am sure bro Simpson meant it in a good way.   i was interested in ems so i will want to share my view. As long as a stock gap up and close below opening, I will always sell. More often I find that the stock will go through more selling. You can view more examples in charts and realise that even if the next day it close green, there will a few more days of down. Sector strength will help it to recover more.   It might or might not recover. From what I read of the price action, if there is a bounce on monday there will still be a retest of 54. The selling was kinda strong.   Futhermore the opening 10min was 16mil. Such high vol and it cant absorb the sellers. Something not right eh? When it broke 67, i would have sold and the next support to me is 60. break that then its maybe its 51.
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Stockcham Elite	12-Oct-2013 18:41        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro whiteluggage, thanks for sharing your view. Hope to see that more often. You raised up a very important point. That is when a stock gap up and close below opening price. In my opinion, it will depend on how much it drop from the opening price. If it doesn't drop too much(see CCM chart as example), I think it is ok after the stock move up quite a bit the previous day. If it drop too much from the opening price compared to the previous day gain, then no good and it is good to sell as you mentioned. For EMS, the drop is more and close day low. If I didn't see the movement, I would say this is no good. I'm still holding and didn't not cut because of a few reasons below. 1) Yes, it closed at day low and below opening. But from the chart you can still see that the day low and high is getting higher for 4 consecutive day. That will mean that there is a possibility that the uptrend is still intact. Only have to confirm again in the next trading day. So Monday have to move up preferably with higher day low and high. 2) In the morning, I can see that the BBs eat up 69 and 70 in big lots. I would say they are buying. I looked closely at the last hour sell down. It was fast after 67 gave way. After 67 gone, 66 was also gone in less than a minute. This is not normal sell orders under no special bad news. The question here is who are the big buyers at 66 & 67. I believe the BBs sold it down(sell to themselves) to force contra players to throw lower. Don't forget that Friday was T+5 for 80mil traded lots done. Sometimes BBs will press the price down just like how they press CCM to close day low of 171 three weeks ago, and it chiong the next day. On Friday, Ace Achieve BBs also keep pressing the price down all the way to 50. We shall see whether it recover in 1-2 days time. Anyway, these are just my thoughts only. I may be wrong. Since it closed lower than opening price by more pips and closed at day low, it is better to be careful and cut when necessary. I see some support at 62. I will cut if I think it cannot close at min. 62. Good Luck and huat ah! whiteluggage      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 15:31) Posted: i was around for a long time already. only kept quiet. ok, my wtf is actually what the freak. yes, i am sure bro Simpson meant it in a good way.   i was interested in ems so i will want to share my view. As long as a stock gap up and close below opening, I will always sell. More often I find that the stock will go through more selling. You can view more examples in charts and realise that even if the next day it close green, there will a few more days of down. Sector strength will help it to recover more.   It might or might not recover. From what I read of the price action, if there is a bounce on monday there will still be a retest of 54. The selling was kinda strong.   Futhermore the opening 10min was 16mil. Such high vol and it cant absorb the sellers. Something not right eh? When it broke 67, i would have sold and the next support to me is 60. break that then its maybe its 51.     Stockcham      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 08:40) Posted: Bro, you can ask no problem. It was holding well until end of sessions when sellers started to build up after seeing price started to drop. Actually at 69 not many retailers buying. The big lots should be from BBs. People are cautious including the BBs. Looks like they prefer to buy cheaper. You see, this counter move about the same time as oakwell. Now oakwell overtake it in price. I believe when market stabilized, this counter should be able to move up more especially when the curb is lifted
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Stockcham Elite	12-Oct-2013 17:28        Stockcham About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	No problem Bro! You see I also post lesser now and may one day go  MIA too....lol. Meanwhile,  welcome you to come here  chat chat anytime. All the best hah! Huat ah! librajet      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 09:33) Posted: Morning bro. It's a promise I gave to that bro and myself, also there is a few of our members that really lost a lot, into debt now, just want to encourage them to quit and settle their problems. Many ways to keep my mind working beside trading, I have closed almost all my accounts, not gonna stay by the comp all day but out to the nature, do good to blood pressure lol. Wish all the best in future trading. Stockcham      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 08:48) Posted: Bro, good to see you here again. Why quit leh?. Trading is interesting n can make our mind work. Play small can be relaxing n no pressure too. This is better than kiu jackpot....lol. Come back...we don't fight the market or BBs. We steal some money from them....lol. Huat ah
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spss1955 Senior	12-Oct-2013 15:54        spss1955 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ok, all's forgiven. My late father used to say wtf also. His was " what the fish" though my siblings and I knew what he really meant to say, haha. whiteluggage      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 15:31) Posted: i was around for a long time already. only kept quiet. ok, my wtf is actually what the freak. yes, i am sure bro Simpson meant it in a good way.   i was interested in ems so i will want to share my view. As long as a stock gap up and close below opening, I will always sell. More often I find that the stock will go through more selling. You can view more examples in charts and realise that even if the next day it close green, there will a few more days of down. Sector strength will help it to recover more.   It might or might not recover. From what I read of the price action, if there is a bounce on monday there will still be a retest of 54. The selling was kinda strong.   Futhermore the opening 10min was 16mil. Such high vol and it cant absorb the sellers. Something not right eh? When it broke 67, i would have sold and the next support to me is 60. break that then its maybe its 51.     Stockcham      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 08:40) Posted: Bro, you can ask no problem. It was holding well until end of sessions when sellers started to build up after seeing price started to drop. Actually at 69 not many retailers buying. The big lots should be from BBs. People are cautious including the BBs. Looks like they prefer to buy cheaper. You see, this counter move about the same time as oakwell. Now oakwell overtake it in price. I believe when market stabilized, this counter should be able to move up more especially when the curb is lifted
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spss1955 Senior	12-Oct-2013 15:49        spss1955 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro, my new trades are doing much better, thank goodness! But I still got lots of dinosaurs that keeping my BP high.  Just wait until they awake, even if it takes a long time.  wendel      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 15:21) Posted: Lolz...bro...hw many ctr u holding arh? Tot u doing well? The scope can only c what ur neighbours r doing but can't see what ur neighbours r thinking leh...haha. spss1955      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 15:14) Posted: Bro Wendel, Can borrow your digiscope? Need it to help me see my counters more clearly lei. BBs keep pushing  them further and further away from me... haha
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Simpsons Veteran	12-Oct-2013 15:44        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes!! Once a ASACDF always a ASACDF.. When we launched on 18th Aug..we were 50 strong..when we gathered for our 1st AGM on 18th Sep..we had 28 members attended.. No one will be left behind as we have many good yuefeis and mulans to watch over us..kum siah and huat!! GorgeousOng      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:40) Posted: YES!!! Together we Huat Tua Tua!!! This the spirit of ASACDF men!!!! No one can kacau us ok!!!! 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 sugeee      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:33) Posted: MULANS UNITE!!!!!
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vincente Senior	12-Oct-2013 15:36        vincente About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "hope for the best"
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro LJ,do what you feel good and you do not need to be accountable to anyone or lose face for that matter if yr investment did not turn out as planned..Do not be coaxed into play small small or pressurized to stay and trade some more.I think that is a bad advice.It is a personnal decision that you can make yourself.We must not  treat the stock market as another kind of Las Vegas.As long as you are SJ members you can post in any thread. Gold916      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 12:17) Posted: Agreed Let him decide himself sugeee      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 11:59) Posted: Just my humble opinion, i think bro librajet can decide for himself to stay or leave ASACDF.  Its a choice that he has a right  to make.I dont think there was ever a time when members/ mgts ask  him to leave Asacdf. Bro librajet may want to take a break to do a personal reflection. He is always welcome to come back and he may when he is ready. To you brother librajet I wish you well. May the LORD bless you with LOVE, PEACE and JOY. Take care Iam sure you will be missed by many here.
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whiteluggage Senior	12-Oct-2013 15:31        whiteluggage About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i was around for a long time already. only kept quiet. ok, my wtf is actually what the freak. yes, i am sure bro Simpson meant it in a good way.   i was interested in ems so i will want to share my view. As long as a stock gap up and close below opening, I will always sell. More often I find that the stock will go through more selling. You can view more examples in charts and realise that even if the next day it close green, there will a few more days of down. Sector strength will help it to recover more.   It might or might not recover. From what I read of the price action, if there is a bounce on monday there will still be a retest of 54. The selling was kinda strong.   Futhermore the opening 10min was 16mil. Such high vol and it cant absorb the sellers. Something not right eh? When it broke 67, i would have sold and the next support to me is 60. break that then its maybe its 51.     Stockcham      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 08:40) Posted: Bro, you can ask no problem. It was holding well until end of sessions when sellers started to build up after seeing price started to drop. Actually at 69 not many retailers buying. The big lots should be from BBs. People are cautious including the BBs. Looks like they prefer to buy cheaper. You see, this counter move about the same time as oakwell. Now oakwell overtake it in price. I believe when market stabilized, this counter should be able to move up more especially when the curb is lifted. RayJian      ( Date: 11-Oct-2013 22:57) Posted: pai sei Bro SC for asking so many qns. i think what i actually wanted to ask was earlier in the day, EMS was hanging around 69 for a long time with the sell queue up and down.. There were talks of " accumulation" , was it ?
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wendel Master	12-Oct-2013 15:21        wendel About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lolz...bro...hw many ctr u holding arh? Tot u doing well? The scope can only c what ur neighbours r doing but can't see what ur neighbours r thinking leh...haha. spss1955      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 15:14) Posted: Bro Wendel, Can borrow your digiscope? Need it to help me see my counters more clearly lei. BBs keep pushing  them further and further away from me... haha. wendel      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:44) Posted: Bro librajet...I'll lend u my digiscope + digicam...go to nature reserves n take nice picture of birds without coming close to it....somedays if birds become boring...can consider your neighbours....distance max of 2100m
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spss1955 Senior	12-Oct-2013 15:14        spss1955 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro Wendel, Can borrow your digiscope? Need it to help me see my counters more clearly lei. BBs keep pushing  them further and further away from me... haha. wendel      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:44) Posted: Bro librajet...I'll lend u my digiscope + digicam...go to nature reserves n take nice picture of birds without coming close to it....somedays if birds become boring...can consider your neighbours....distance max of 2100m. librajet      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:06) Posted: Alright let's just stop this, will not be monitoring mkt anymore, so won't have much contribution. Tks to those that supported me but I will be in here once a while as a guest, don't make it into a issue haha. Good luck to all. Try not to use word like wtf in this thread, there are nice Mulans around, tks
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librajet Elite	12-Oct-2013 15:05        librajet About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Haha bro, see birds in nature Ho liao, but I still prefer fishing and kiu jackpot, more relax. wendel      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:44) Posted: Bro librajet...I'll lend u my digiscope + digicam...go to nature reserves n take nice picture of birds without coming close to it....somedays if birds become boring...can consider your neighbours....distance max of 2100m. librajet      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:06) Posted: Alright let's just stop this, will not be monitoring mkt anymore, so won't have much contribution. Tks to those that supported me but I will be in here once a while as a guest, don't make it into a issue haha. Good luck to all. Try not to use word like wtf in this thread, there are nice Mulans around, tks
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Luna69 Senior	12-Oct-2013 15:00        Luna69 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Cheers n well said ! Hope all here continue to keep Money rolling in n stay spirited against mr Market ! Huat ar !!! GorgeousOng      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:40) Posted: YES!!! Together we Huat Tua Tua!!! This the spirit of ASACDF men!!!! No one can kacau us ok!!!! 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 sugeee      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:33) Posted: MULANS UNITE!!!!!
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hellogoodbye Member	12-Oct-2013 14:44        hellogoodbye About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Can look at cogent. Bb hungry one mouth snap up abt 8k lots at 0.205. Dyodd
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wendel Master	12-Oct-2013 14:44        wendel About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bro librajet...I'll lend u my digiscope + digicam...go to nature reserves n take nice picture of birds without coming close to it....somedays if birds become boring...can consider your neighbours....distance max of 2100m. librajet      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:06) Posted: Alright let's just stop this, will not be monitoring mkt anymore, so won't have much contribution. Tks to those that supported me but I will be in here once a while as a guest, don't make it into a issue haha. Good luck to all. Try not to use word like wtf in this thread, there are nice Mulans around, tks. whiteluggage      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:01) Posted: Really? Are we adults?? Can't believe a poll/vote is created in a thread giving permission for a person to stay or go. Libra can come and go as he pleases. I read and read again to decide if I want to post my opinion. If ever a poll or vote is created for this scenario, it should be "Pls vote how much u like or love to have librajet coming to this thread" . If Simpsons intention was like that then the message brought across was phrased wrongly. I hope that's the case. If not, it's wtf.
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GorgeousOng Elite	12-Oct-2013 14:40        GorgeousOng About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Hehehaha...enjoy life n live to the fullest..."
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	YES!!! Together we Huat Tua Tua!!! This the spirit of ASACDF men!!!! No one can kacau us ok!!!! 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 sugeee      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:33) Posted: MULANS UNITE!!!!!   Simpsons      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:28) Posted: It's good to see so many sifu and mulans back..huat!!
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Simpsons Veteran	12-Oct-2013 14:37        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lol..old and burnt liao..and also all the yuefeis..kum siah and huat!!
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sugeee Veteran	12-Oct-2013 14:36        sugeee About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Sifu and mulans, aiyoh you forgot brothers. Tsk Tsk Tsk Old man already. BUT we love you so you are forgiven. Brothers right ??? Simpsons      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:28) Posted: It's good to see so many sifu and mulans back..huat!!
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sugeee Veteran	12-Oct-2013 14:33        sugeee About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	MULANS UNITE!!!!!   Simpsons      ( Date: 12-Oct-2013 14:28) Posted: It's good to see so many sifu and mulans back..huat!!
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Simpsons Veteran	12-Oct-2013 14:28        Simpsons About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It's good to see so many sifu and mulans back..huat!!
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